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How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« on: March 09, 2018, 05:50:25 PM »
As a kid I always thought I'd be married with a family by my 30s (like my parents were), but here I am 35 and still single. I was in a relationship for most of my early 20s but we broke up as we didn't want the same things in life. (basically I wanted a large family and she didn't). Since then I've had no luck, one short relationship that only lasted a few months, and a few one night stands. Ideally I would find a suitable partner locally so I wouldn't have to worry about the complications that come with cultural differences, but I'm just not having any luck with these canadian girls. Is it time to consider the FSU or am I still too young?

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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2018, 08:14:46 PM »
As a kid I always thought I'd be married with a family by my 30s (like my parents were), but here I am 35 and still single. I was in a relationship for most of my early 20s but we broke up as we didn't want the same things in life. (basically I wanted a large family and she didn't). Since then I've had no luck, one short relationship that only lasted a few months, and a few one night stands. Ideally I would find a suitable partner locally so I wouldn't have to worry about the complications that come with cultural differences, but I'm just not having any luck with these canadian girls. Is it time to consider the FSU or am I still too young?

IMO it's not an age thing as much as it's a time, money and effort thing (you should have plenty of each). If you have the desire and gumption you should go for it. And here's a hint: don't tell anyone what you're doing... they'll all try to dissuade you and call you an idiot. 
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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2018, 12:26:02 AM »
As a kid I always thought I'd be married with a family by my 30s (like my parents were), but here I am 35 and still single. I was in a relationship for most of my early 20s but we broke up as we didn't want the same things in life. (basically I wanted a large family and she didn't). Since then I've had no luck, one short relationship that only lasted a few months, and a few one night stands. Ideally I would find a suitable partner locally so I wouldn't have to worry about the complications that come with cultural differences, but I'm just not having any luck with these canadian girls. Is it time to consider the FSU or am I still too young?

Personally I think that the thread heading "resort to the FSU" , extremely degrading..

If you have shown the same/similar respect for Canadian Ladies, its no wonder that you are still single.

May be better if you try China or somewhere else, as you seem to be showing no respect for FSU ladies..
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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2018, 04:54:27 AM »
As a kid I always thought I'd be married with a family by my 30s (like my parents were), but here I am 35 and still single. I was in a relationship for most of my early 20s but we broke up as we didn't want the same things in life. (basically I wanted a large family and she didn't). Since then I've had no luck, one short relationship that only lasted a few months, and a few one night stands. Ideally I would find a suitable partner locally so I wouldn't have to worry about the complications that come with cultural differences, but I'm just not having any luck with these canadian girls. Is it time to consider the FSU or am I still too young?

Personally I think that the thread heading "resort to the FSU" , extremely degrading..

If you have shown the same/similar respect for Canadian Ladies, its no wonder that you are still single.

May be better if you try China or somewhere else, as you seem to be showing no respect for FSU ladies..

Hopefully it was just poor wording on his behalf but if he thinks international dating is an easy default, he’ll get chewed up and spat out.

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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2018, 05:51:53 AM »
Also,

Please bear in mind that the cost of succesful dating in the FSU will have an extra $10.000 - $20.000 minimum price tag attached.

This covers visa fee's, translators, embassy's , plane-tickets and other things a local date won't have to bother with.
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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2018, 06:03:28 AM »
Also,

Please bear in mind that the cost of succesful dating in the FSU will have an extra $10.000 - $20.000 minimum price tag attached.

This covers visa fee's, translators, embassy's , plane-tickets and other things a local date won't have to bother with.

And that's before you buy cars, houses and holidays with your new wife!!  :chuckle:

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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2018, 06:51:55 AM »
Welcome to RUA!

For what it is worth there is in Canada the largest Ukraine diaspora, some in the Toronto region and the majority Westward. It might be worthwhile meeting some from this community before contemplating the former Soviet Union.

In the meantime ask questions and read threads.
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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2018, 09:34:33 AM »
Thanks to everyone who replied with useful info (I'm going to ignore the trolls who only posted to attack me). I am aware there are costs associated with the FSU that wouldn't exist if marrying locally, but I doubt they'll be anywhere near 10-20k. The cost to sponsor a spouse to Canada is about $1000. I'm sure plane tickets and food/lodging in Ukraine/Russia are nowhere near 10-20k. And even if they are, I have a decent amoutn of savings so I'm not concerned with that.

I don't know where to meet FSU diaspora, and even if I did I'm not sure it'd be much help. They are likely westernized and not an accurate reflection of what a girl from the FSU is like, especially if they arrived here long ago and are from an older generation. I do have some slavic ancestry (slovenian) and I'm close with that side of my family so I'm not totally unfamiliar with the cultural differences.

I was hoping to hear more anecdotes from people abotu what prompted them to look to the FSU. At what point did you say to yourself "hmmm I'm not having any luck with the local girls here in Canada/USA/UK/France/whatever, I'll consider Ukraine/Russia"? Did anything happen in your life to trigger considering the FSU and how old were you and what kind of relationship experience did you have with local girls in your country? Basically I don't know whether to keep trying in canada or to give up and consider other avenues.

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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2018, 10:01:41 AM »
Thanks to everyone who replied with useful info (I'm going to ignore the trolls who only posted to attack me). I am aware there are costs associated with the FSU that wouldn't exist if marrying locally, but I doubt they'll be anywhere near 10-20k. The cost to sponsor a spouse to Canada is about $1000. I'm sure plane tickets and food/lodging in Ukraine/Russia are nowhere near 10-20k. And even if they are, I have a decent amoutn of savings so I'm not concerned with that.

I don't know where to meet FSU diaspora, and even if I did I'm not sure it'd be much help. They are likely westernized and not an accurate reflection of what a girl from the FSU is like, especially if they arrived here long ago and are from an older generation. I do have some slavic ancestry (slovenian) and I'm close with that side of my family so I'm not totally unfamiliar with the cultural differences.

I was hoping to hear more anecdotes from people abotu what prompted them to look to the FSU. At what point did you say to yourself "hmmm I'm not having any luck with the local girls here in Canada/USA/UK/France/whatever, I'll consider Ukraine/Russia"? Did anything happen in your life to trigger considering the FSU and how old were you and what kind of relationship experience did you have with local girls in your country? Basically I don't know whether to keep trying in canada or to give up and consider other avenues.

One trip will easily cost $3,500 all together including real costs of dating a woman, provided you find a woman to shack up with for a couple of weeks.

I cannot imagine accomplishing everything for less than 10 to 20K and you’re seriously naive to think so. I also didn’t notice any guys trolling you so best grow a thicker skin.

Were I looking:

I’ve always liked foreign women. I also like women who dress nice, do their hair and nails and are slender or at least HWP. I like women who like men and don’t have huge hang ups about sex.

Obesity, tattoos, ignorance about world geography and the world at large are turnoffs.

That eliminates about 90% of the Western women who are single.
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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2018, 10:14:41 AM »
I was hoping to hear more anecdotes from people abotu what prompted them to look to the FSU. At what point did you say to yourself "hmmm I'm not having any luck with the local girls here in Canada/USA/UK/France/whatever, I'll consider Ukraine/Russia"? Did anything happen in your life to trigger considering the FSU and how old were you and what kind of relationship experience did you have with local girls in your country? Basically I don't know whether to keep trying in canada or to give up and consider other avenues.

I think you'll come to find most reasoning subjective, like for me personally, because the most attractive women I've ever seen have come from Ukraine. I want an attractive mate and I would be remiss if I did not at least investigate the possibility of a FSU partner. 
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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2018, 10:51:08 AM »
My motivation for looking to the FSU has very little to do with looks. There is no shortage of attractive, fit women in Canada. It's their life goals and outlook that I find unappealing. The type of things western women are passionate about (celebrity gossip, posting on instagram, watching tv, partying, going clubbing, smoking pot, travelling, going to concerts, being child free, going to graduate school for some ridiculous liberal arts degree, etc) are so radically different than my own goals and passions (traditional marriage with a tight knit family, spending time in nature, camping, hiking, frugality, etc) that we may as well be different species. The impression I get about the FSU is that I'm more likely to find a compatible partner there. ALthough my impression is based only on reading stuff on the internet, I haven't actually been there myself.

I do have to agree with you about the tattoos though. What the heck is it with almost every western chick having a bunch of ugly ridiculous tattoos these days? lol.... I'm not a fan.

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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2018, 11:17:24 AM »
My motivation for looking to the FSU has very little to do with looks. There is no shortage of attractive, fit women in Canada. It's their life goals and outlook that I find unappealing. The type of things western women are passionate about (celebrity gossip, posting on instagram, watching tv, partying, going clubbing, smoking pot, travelling, going to concerts, being child free, going to graduate school for some ridiculous liberal arts degree, etc) are so radically different than my own goals and passions (traditional marriage with a tight knit family, spending time in nature, camping, hiking, frugality, etc) that we may as well be different species. The impression I get about the FSU is that I'm more likely to find a compatible partner there. ALthough my impression is based only on reading stuff on the internet, I haven't actually been there myself.

I do have to agree with you about the tattoos though. What the heck is it with almost every western chick having a bunch of ugly ridiculous tattoos these days? lol.... I'm not a fan.

I agree with your impressions about WW 100% (western women). Boorish mercurial entitled mindless Kardashian loving zombies.

Make it known upfront that you’re all about finding a woman who wants children and to start a family. Those are eternal values with deep merit.
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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2018, 12:20:40 PM »
My motivation for looking to the FSU has very little to do with looks. There is no shortage of attractive, fit women in Canada. It's their life goals and outlook that I find unappealing. The type of things western women are passionate about (celebrity gossip, posting on instagram, watching tv, partying, going clubbing, smoking pot, travelling, going to concerts, being child free, going to graduate school for some ridiculous liberal arts degree, etc) are so radically different than my own goals and passions (traditional marriage with a tight knit family, spending time in nature, camping, hiking, frugality, etc) that we may as well be different species. The impression I get about the FSU is that I'm more likely to find a compatible partner there. ALthough my impression is based only on reading stuff on the internet, I haven't actually been there myself.

I do have to agree with you about the tattoos though. What the heck is it with almost every western chick having a bunch of ugly ridiculous tattoos these days? lol.... I'm not a fan.

I rarely pop into the questions on the bride search, since i am married 37 years to my first wife, an AW.  But i wonder if women from the FSUW are really that different from other women?  People are people, and i bet there are lots of Instagram/twitter addicts there.  Lots of women over there who would rather club than camp.  Lots of women who have no interest in kids.  And yes even lots of women fighting the weight issue.

I just cant see how all women from here in America are one way and all women from another part of the world are another way? 

I have looked on the FSUW dating sites, and see tons of tattoos, lots of girls who sure look like club girls rather than hikers and lots of girls who have never been married but have kids.  Seems exactly like America to me.  Girls that are human, not robots. 

It seems a lot of guys are looking for a time machine and a wife from the 1940's or 1950's.  I just think the world is changing and it may change faster in one country than other, but it is still going to change. 

Again this is just a comment from a guy who has never been there and really more of a question than statement.

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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2018, 12:39:09 PM »
Ok reality check time here

As many know here I spend a lot of time travelling UK to Russia and actually partly living there with my wife
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1. They all have mobile phones and sit on insta, classmates etc social networking
2. Most of the younger ladies will love to go dancing and socialising
3. lots are between relationships. . and grandma is looking after daughter or son
4. everything is available to them there as it is in the west ...If they can afford or get someone to buy for them
6. If your looking for a lady with good family values then you will have to take the chance as you do in Canada..It is not a prerequisite built in option
bear in mind that many years has now passed sine the FSU collapsed so any thing under 29 years does not have a real clue because it did not exist in their lives

other than that it's a chase that if done properly and diligently will or can provide you a great partner.. but believe me make sure your also up to the task

hope that helps put a bit of perspective on it
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Re: How do I know when it's time to resort to the FSU?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2018, 04:49:38 PM »
I don't limit myself when it comes to what I want and that includes where the goals are in the world!

If the guitar amp is in the US. If the drum kit is in the UK or just in the nearby city. I don't mind the journey or the cost. When it comes to Miss right for marriage and family the same applies and my location since 1986 has not really helped the situation in locating her only being close once but other interest was more important at the time.

Still I would like the female qualities to be there and I have found what I need not having to somehow look for it in my country but the age group is less interesting above 35 and less femine/attractive than I would like.