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Corruption..
« on: February 15, 2018, 01:19:00 PM »
I was starting to think corruption was slowly going.. maybe it is!

But anyway we was out the other night and got talking to one of my wife friends.. seems a traffic cop gets about 60,000 roubles a month, but this particular one who is married to a friend of just brought an apartment for 2 million cash and apparently his salary is just pocket money compared to what he takes in tips of kind.. :chuckle:

We also have another friend who is only 37 he has three apartments bought for cash from tip money! Also have a CID kind of friend he's special officer investigating crimes .. funny he has a few apartments too!!

Im thinking of a career change.. :laugh:
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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2018, 01:41:23 PM »
These things don't change overnight but I am sure the direction is the right one. This is a process I have seen repeated in more than one country over the past few years.
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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2018, 01:49:16 PM »
Yes its clearing up for 100% as I said can't even buy a driving licence now... BUT I might take a weekend job as a traffic cop.. a little like a paper round.. ;D
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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2018, 07:24:33 PM »
can't even buy a driving licence now...

I know a girl in St Pete who just failed her driving test. She is going to try harder next time - no bribes involved. Buying the licence doesn't seem to be an option on the table.

Over a decade ago wifey arrived in the UK with her *valid* Russian driving licence. She had a vague idea, but the tester was a pal of Papulka's - so her pass was a given. I started from scratch and later she got a UK licence properly - and took the test in English. How it should be.

Last time I was stopped by the cops in Russia, I sent wifey to bribe them with £10 or whatever it is, she came back with a ticket and said "We are not fuelling corruption in Russia". FIL paid something like £14 into the bank the following week on my behalf.

Times, they are a changin'.
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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2018, 11:46:40 PM »

Last time I was stopped by the cops in Russia

10 years or more..?

Why isn't Steve a 'russophobe' for pointing out what you ( clearly)  don't have  scoobie do  about  ..?

Russian traffic cops are businessmen and the system is corrupt from the top down ... Not got a RU diver's licence .. ? They ain't interested in you. You can't be scared by re opening gambit, "you driving licence is suspended" ...  I just laugh and hand it over - which TOTALLY throws them.. 

There are 'cops' raiding businesses in Krasnodar region - suggesting "copyright theft". Don't pay them? They return with a Court Order and insert DVDs or USB and 'find' illegal software. Your computers are seized pending a Court appearance..

How DO you fight a system when it is corrupt from the top down?

Take off your blinkers, Manny - Russia needs a govt that actually DOES do something about corruption - rather than encouraging it .

The  way the law is written paying a bride is as criminal as asking for one.

Unless you drive a Russian registered car, in Russia you have NO idea how bad things are.  Why DO you think some drivers simply ignore speed limits and drive like ***ts ? They know they won't BE fined.

Corruption is ENDEMIC :(





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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2018, 12:48:14 AM »
Slightly  :offtopic:

Do police officers in Russia carry sidearms? in Ukraine?
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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2018, 01:32:24 AM »
Slightly  :offtopic:

Do police officers in Russia carry sidearms? in Ukraine?

Yes, including the traffic police

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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2018, 02:40:05 AM »
Slightly  :offtopic:

Do police officers in Russia carry sidearms? in Ukraine?

Most police in Ukraine do carry weapons on foot patrol.

There is the fact that private security personnel who also wear uniforms do not have sidearms.
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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2018, 08:02:42 AM »
Slightly  :offtopic:

Do police officers in Russia carry sidearms? in Ukraine?

We had one in our place a while back drinking tea with his semi auto.. :ROFL:

Was going to make a small photo shoot with him holding me down on the ground with a gun to my head! Thought it would be a amusing pic t send to my parents... they don't have much of a sense of humour.. :sick0012:
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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2018, 08:17:53 AM »

We had one in our place a while back drinking tea with his semi auto.. :ROFL:

Was going to make a small photo shoot with him holding me down on the ground with a gun to my head! Thought it would be a amusing pic t send to my parents... they don't have much of a sense of humour.. :sick0012:

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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2018, 08:21:23 AM »

Last time I was stopped by the cops in Russia

10 years or more..?

Why isn't Steve a 'russophobe' for pointing out what you ( clearly)  don't have  scoobie do  about  ..?

Russian traffic cops are businessmen and the system is corrupt from the top down ... Not got a RU diver's licence .. ? They ain't interested in you. You can't be scared by re opening gambit, "you driving licence is suspended" ...  I just laugh and hand it over - which TOTALLY throws them.. 

There are 'cops' raiding businesses in Krasnodar region - suggesting "copyright theft". Don't pay them? They return with a Court Order and insert DVDs or USB and 'find' illegal software. Your computers are seized pending a Court appearance..

How DO you fight a system when it is corrupt from the top down?

Take off your blinkers, Manny - Russia needs a govt that actually DOES do something about corruption - rather than encouraging it .

The  way the law is written paying a bride is as criminal as asking for one.

Unless you drive a Russian registered car, in Russia you have NO idea how bad things are.  Why DO you think some drivers simply ignore speed limits and drive like ***ts ? They know they won't BE fined.

Corruption is ENDEMIC :(


Russian traffic cops are businessmen and the system is corrupt from the top down ... Not got a RU diver's licence .. ? They ain't interested in you. You can't be scared by re opening gambit, "you driving licence is suspended" ...  I just laugh and hand it over - which TOTALLY throws them.. 

Only 30 years ago it was pretty easy to pay English cops , most cops in London including Special branch were all corrupt , it took a fair few years to sort all their shit out.. I'm sure its still there a little. Traffic cops throughout the world are always bent  or HAVE been at some time.. its just the way it is..

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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2018, 08:23:42 AM »

We had one in our place a while back drinking tea with his semi auto.. :ROFL:

Was going to make a small photo shoot with him holding me down on the ground with a gun to my head! Thought it would be a amusing pic t send to my parents... they don't have much of a sense of humour.. :sick0012:

 :laugh:

Always wanted to stop a couple of cops in the street and ask them if its ok to have my arms spread out over their car while they cuff me with a semi auto pointed at my head... to make a few good pics.. I'm going to do it soon.. its one of those "Must do" in Russia things for me.. ;D
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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2018, 09:12:27 AM »
Slightly  :offtopic:

Do police officers in Russia carry sidearms? in Ukraine?

We had one in our place a while back drinking tea with his semi auto.. :ROFL:

Was going to make a small photo shoot with him holding me down on the ground with a gun to my head! Thought it would be a amusing pic t send to my parents... they don't have much of a sense of humour.. :sick0012:

Why was a Police officer in your home?  :whistle:
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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2018, 12:56:56 PM »
Slightly  :offtopic:

Do police officers in Russia carry sidearms? in Ukraine?

We had one in our place a while back drinking tea with his semi auto.. :ROFL:

Was going to make a small photo shoot with him holding me down on the ground with a gun to my head! Thought it would be a amusing pic t send to my parents... they don't have much of a sense of humour.. :sick0012:

Why was a Police officer in your home?  :whistle:

Husband of wife friend, he's Special investigator.. plain clothes..
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Re: Corruption..
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2018, 02:17:46 PM »
can't even buy a driving licence now...

I know a girl in St Pete who just failed her driving test. She is going to try harder next time - no bribes involved. Buying the licence doesn't seem to be an option on the table.

Over a decade ago wifey arrived in the UK with her *valid* Russian driving licence. She had a vague idea, but the tester was a pal of Papulka's - so her pass was a given. I started from scratch and later she got a UK licence properly - and took the test in English. How it should be.

Last time I was stopped by the cops in Russia, I sent wifey to bribe them with £10 or whatever it is, she came back with a ticket and said "We are not fuelling corruption in Russia". FIL paid something like £14 into the bank the following week on my behalf.

Times, they are a changin'.

In general, I agree with the sentiment that times are a changing. Russia is definitely a more clean place than it has been in the past and I think it’s going to keep continuing in that direction.

That being said, seems like the drivers license thing still happens in the Moscow region. A student of mine recently did this. On test one, the evaluator hadn’t been informed and she failed. Everything got clarified for the second test.

I guess about 40,000ru is the going rate.


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