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Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« on: January 09, 2018, 11:11:58 AM »
Supposing one wants some pharmaceutical item on the recommendation of a doctor in Russia, and the doctor recommends some bloke where it can be bought. To me this sounds like Yuri will flog you a bottle of Asprin instead and clear off smiling with a pocketful of Roubles. No way of knowing if it's right or not - like buying off the net from India and suchlike.

How does someone in Russia nowadays obtain legit drugs if said items are not routine pharmacy stuff? How does one buy genuine licensed items (or proper generics) that aren't fake?

And would it still be normal in Russia for a hospital doctor to recommend some random bloke where pharmaceuticals can be bought? (One assumes a backhander of course - which isnt of concern if the stuff is right).
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Re: Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2018, 11:31:12 AM »
Supposing one wants some pharmaceutical item on the recommendation of a doctor in Russia, and the doctor recommends some bloke where it can be bought. To me this sounds like Yuri will flog you a bottle of Asprin instead and clear off smiling with a pocketful of Roubles. No way of knowing if it's right or not - like buying off the net from India and suchlike.

How does someone in Russia nowadays obtain legit drugs if said items are not routine pharmacy stuff? How does one buy genuine licensed items (or proper generics) that aren't fake?

And would it still be normal in Russia for a hospital doctor to recommend some random bloke where pharmaceuticals can be bought? (One assumes a backhander of course - which isnt of concern if the stuff is right).

I don't think the doctors do that sort of thing any more? We have used the doctor and hospital many times for the kids for all sorts of stuff even had the ambulance service in the house , they always give you a prescription to collect from the pharmacy just like in the UK..

Its pretty well the same kind of thing in the UK except there is more stuff at the pharmacy you would not be given a prescription for in the UK. My mother has told us a few times they would not give you that stuff in the UK over the counter, she knows it is what she does.

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Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2018, 11:55:16 AM »
Pharmacy? Chemist!!


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Re: Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2018, 11:59:54 AM »
Pharmacy? Chemist!!


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I never heard of anyone picking up fake medicines from the Chemist , Im pretty sure it doesn't happen around here.

But I am always careful buying deodorant from the super market once I'm sure it was fake something, it was like spraying gasoline under my armpits! Lucky I never sprayed any on my nuts!
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Re: Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2018, 12:20:24 PM »
they always give you a prescription to collect from the pharmacy just like in the UK..

For antibiotics or something, yes. But what of a drug that is £500 a course for example? You ain't getting that in Russia on a ten quid prescription. Why I am asking how that side of the system might work.

I don't think the doctors do that sort of thing any more?

I can assure you they do. Hence the question.

Pharmacy? Chemist!!

Plenty of fakes around in those places in Russia, too.


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Re: Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2018, 12:28:38 PM »
they always give you a prescription to collect from the pharmacy just like in the UK..

For antibiotics or something, yes. But what of a drug that is £500 a course for example? You ain't getting that in Russia on a ten quid prescription. Why I am asking how that side of the system might work.

I don't think the doctors do that sort of thing any more?

I can assure you they do. Hence the question.

Pharmacy? Chemist!!

Plenty of fakes around in those places in Russia, too.

I will try to find out about that. But if I had to pay 500 for a course I would rather suffer  :(
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Re: Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 12:37:38 PM »
Had a mate in Sochi that needed medication following a heart operation ... needed to take meds that cost $220 per packet and had to buy 4 packets over the year.

They were cheaper to buy from N.America


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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2018, 12:48:17 PM »
Im not sure how it is every where else but I know for sure it is very hard to pay anyone backhanders for things or even small bribes or anything like that here today. I may be wrong but all things like buying a driving licence or work contract , paying a copper to let you off drink driving or other offences. lots of things have come to an end, Im sure a few still do it but for most it doesn't happen any more even just over the last couple of years. They even have bloody pay and Display now!! Just waiting for the garbage people to ask us to put bottles in one bin tins in another and paper and general waste in another.. :laugh:

My wife was going to buy a driving license only recently but it is impossible now. She has to go for a test soon, though she can drive ok anyway..
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Re: Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2018, 01:25:39 PM »
Im not sure how it is every where else but I know for sure it is very hard to pay anyone backhanders for things or even small bribes or anything like that here today. I may be wrong but all things like buying a driving licence or work contract , paying a copper to let you off drink driving or other offences. lots of things have come to an end

Steveboy, You're wrong ((

 I know you THINK I'm a 'russophobe' (  :chuckle:) , but when / if your wife starts driving you'll find that ( in the south of Russia - at least ) folks get stopped for minor 'offences' and the first thing they are told is, ' your driving licence is suspended' - it's happened to me ...

I just laugh and give the policeman my driving licence - pointing out a new one will be ordered from Swansea ..    There's no 'threat' to a westerner that doesn't have an RU licence and my wallet stays firmly closed..they give up - knowing that there's no biz to be done... not that I've even broken a law.

It's completely different story for a Russian at the wheel.  The law's been changed to make the act of paying a bribe as bad as asking for one to make a misdemeanour 'go away' ..  So people pay up and the recipient Police Officers know they're safe.






 





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Re: Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2018, 03:04:58 PM »
Supposing one wants some pharmaceutical item on the recommendation of a doctor in Russia, and the doctor recommends some bloke where it can be bought. To me this sounds like Yuri will flog you a bottle of Asprin instead and clear off smiling with a pocketful of Roubles. No way of knowing if it's right or not - like buying off the net from India and suchlike.

How does someone in Russia nowadays obtain legit drugs if said items are not routine pharmacy stuff? How does one buy genuine licensed items (or proper generics) that aren't fake?

And would it still be normal in Russia for a hospital doctor to recommend some random bloke where pharmaceuticals can be bought? (One assumes a backhander of course - which isnt of concern if the stuff is right).

I don't think the doctors do that sort of thing any more? We have used the doctor and hospital many times for the kids for all sorts of stuff even had the ambulance service in the house , they always give you a prescription to collect from the pharmacy just like in the UK..

Its pretty well the same kind of thing in the UK except there is more stuff at the pharmacy you would not be given a prescription for in the UK. My mother has told us a few times they would not give you that stuff in the UK over the counter, she knows it is what she does.

Agreed!  That's out of date analysis.  Some of my students work in the pharmaceutical industry, and the tracking procedures are quite stringent!  Get a prescription and you'll be on your way.

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Re: Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2018, 03:08:56 PM »
they always give you a prescription to collect from the pharmacy just like in the UK..

For antibiotics or something, yes. But what of a drug that is £500 a course for example? You ain't getting that in Russia on a ten quid prescription. Why I am asking how that side of the system might work.

I don't think the doctors do that sort of thing any more?

I can assure you they do. Hence the question.

Pharmacy? Chemist!!

Plenty of fakes around in those places in Russia, too.

You don't need a prescription for antibiotics here.  Pretty sure you won't be dealing with medicinal fakes either, unless you're going for something very experimental.

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Re: Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2018, 03:11:17 PM »
Im not sure how it is every where else but I know for sure it is very hard to pay anyone backhanders for things or even small bribes or anything like that here today. I may be wrong but all things like buying a driving licence or work contract , paying a copper to let you off drink driving or other offences. lots of things have come to an end, Im sure a few still do it but for most it doesn't happen any more even just over the last couple of years. They even have bloody pay and Display now!! Just waiting for the garbage people to ask us to put bottles in one bin tins in another and paper and general waste in another.. :laugh:

My wife was going to buy a driving license only recently but it is impossible now. She has to go for a test soon, though she can drive ok anyway..

My experience is more limited, but it agrees.  Russia is prim and proper these days.  Decent place, easy to live, everything above board, and lots of checks and balances.  That's my sense.

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Re: Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2018, 03:18:40 PM »
You don't need a prescription for antibiotics here.

In Russia I gather they changed the law on that about 4 years ago - and now you do, but you can still buy it if you know where. But this isn't something like that anyway.
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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2018, 03:21:51 PM »
You don't need a prescription for antibiotics here.

In Russia I gather they changed the law on that about 4 years ago - and now you do, but you can still buy it if you know where. But this isn't something like that anyway.

Don't know, you could be right, I'll have to check next week.  My impression was you could still buy over the counter.  I doubt there's still special places bending the rules, but I could be wrong.

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Re: Pharmaceuticals in Russia
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2018, 03:31:00 PM »
Transnistria ! Every thing is possible there , you could probably buy a nuke with a back hander, but I don't think they have much new medicines there, just smelling salts!  :laugh:

I love that republic... So much fun there I could write a book about it. Once I really thought I was going to have to swim over the river on the Ukrainian border to get in from another check point.. :travel:
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