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Medical care in Russia - third world standards ?
« on: November 13, 2017, 10:17:31 AM »
My Russian girlfriend has been having a terrible time in Russia over the last 3 months. Her father was ill and taken into hospital where they discovered he has Parkinson's. He can only be fed through tubes in his nose, he can hardly talk, he can hardly move. They discharged him from hospital actually in a worse state than went he went in for my girlfriend to care for him is his apartment without medication or any plan for his care !!! How on earth she is supposed to do this i don't know, he needs constant attention 24 hours a day and she has hurt her back lifting him.
Is this the normal way of dealing with very ill people in Russia ? He should be in a specialist hospital or care home receiving specialist care, basically they have just dumped him as if he were garbage !!
I am absolutely amazed, i just can't believe what has been going on over there, it is a total disgrace !! I never realised just how bad things appear to be in Russia right now, worse than a third world country.
Obviously as a result of this my girlfriend is in despair, she does not what to do.
Has anyone else had a similar experience or know of any solutions?

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Re: Medical care in Russia - third world standards ?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 11:26:16 AM »
My Russian girlfriend has been having a terrible time in Russia over the last 3 months. Her father was ill and taken into hospital where they discovered he has Parkinson's. He can only be fed through tubes in his nose, he can hardly talk, he can hardly move. They discharged him from hospital actually in a worse state than went he went in for my girlfriend to care for him is his apartment without medication or any plan for his care !!! How on earth she is supposed to do this i don't know, he needs constant attention 24 hours a day and she has hurt her back lifting him.
Is this the normal way of dealing with very ill people in Russia ? He should be in a specialist hospital or care home receiving specialist care, basically they have just dumped him as if he were garbage !!
I am absolutely amazed, i just can't believe what has been going on over there, it is a total disgrace !! I never realised just how bad things appear to be in Russia right now, worse than a third world country.
Obviously as a result of this my girlfriend is in despair, she does not what to do.
Has anyone else had a similar experience or know of any solutions?

Does she need you to send her any $$$$$$ ?

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Re: Medical care in Russia - third world standards ?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 11:29:30 AM »
Lots depends on what part of the country you live... I wouldn't get to stressed over it though. The main thing to remember is it is NOT the UK...not that medical care will be much better there by the time greedy Richard has taken it over..


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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 03:16:40 PM »
No she does not need any money, she has a decent job here in the UK. The way they have dealt with him is an absolute shambles, they seem to have no idea of what to do with him, how to improve his situation, how on earth can you discharge someone from hospital who can only be spoon fed through tubes in his nose, can't walk or even stand up ?

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Re: Medical care in Russia - third world standards ?
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 11:00:31 PM »
My Russian girlfriend has been having a terrible time in Russia over the last 3 months. Her father was ill and taken into hospital where they discovered he has Parkinson's. He can only be fed through tubes in his nose, he can hardly talk, he can hardly move. They discharged him from hospital actually in a worse state than went he went in for my girlfriend to care for him is his apartment without medication or any plan for his care !!! How on earth she is supposed to do this i don't know, he needs constant attention 24 hours a day and she has hurt her back lifting him.
Is this the normal way of dealing with very ill people in Russia ? He should be in a specialist hospital or care home receiving specialist care, basically they have just dumped him as if he were garbage !!
I am absolutely amazed, i just can't believe what has been going on over there, it is a total disgrace !! I never realised just how bad things appear to be in Russia right now, worse than a third world country.
Obviously as a result of this my girlfriend is in despair, she does not what to do.
Has anyone else had a similar experience or know of any solutions?

You might read up on Parkinson's a little ...

As far as FSU doctors go, they are often well trained. You have good ones and bad ones. BUT, very few have access to to 'modern' diagnostic equipment. 

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Re: Medical care in Russia - third world standards ?
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2017, 03:01:36 AM »
I can understand what el Guero is saying.

Parkinsonism is a slow onset disease. It is very hard to believe that he'd only just have been diagnosed with parkinsonism AND that his condition was already so severe that he needed nasogastric feeding.

That's something that might be expected at the end of the process, a process that would have been ongoing for many years.

Given what you have shared with us, I suspect that you are the intended victim of a money scam.

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Re: Medical care in Russia - third world standards ?
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2017, 05:52:15 AM »
I know someone quite badly afflicted by Parkinson’s - he’s adopted a strong Barnsley accent and keeps interviewing people...

Better get me coat...


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Re: Medical care in Russia - third world standards ?
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2017, 06:42:51 AM »
My girlfriends father was first diagnosed about 18 months ago but we believe that since then he has not had the correct care and medication. I am fully aware of how Parkinson's can affect people differently, the initial basic symptoms are common but then there can be many other symptoms that can affect all individuals differently and the condition runs with time.

I know many people here in the UK that with the correct medication, physiotherapy, diet and monitoring live to a reasonable standard with the disease, but of course with time things can go downhill.

The simple fact of my post is that my girfriend's father has been dumped out of hospital into his apartment, he can't walk, eat or even speak properly and they expect her to care for him on her own, she is even struggling to assist him to stand and he needs constant attention for around 20 hours a day. There is no way anyone in this condition should be in this situation.

My girlfriend has taken temporary leave from her job here in the UK and gone to Russia to help him because he has no other relatives of any use. He should be in hospital or care home being looked after by professionals.

Money is not an issue in this case and there is no money scam, as i said my girlfriend has a good job here and has her own money. The only scam going on is with how the Russian health authorities have dealt with this case !!

A brief search on the internet reveals just how bad Russian healthcare is and it appears to be getting worse, i just never realised that it was already so bad.








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Re: Medical care in Russia - third world standards ?
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2017, 07:01:25 AM »
How old is her father?  What were his symptoms that led to the diagnosis 1.5 years ago?  They didn't offer to put him on medication at that time? 
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2017, 09:55:58 AM »
He is 78 years old. He was on medication but suddenly about 3 months ago he found that he could not eat / swallow, lost a lot of weight as a result and was taken to hospital on deaths door looking like a skeleton and that is when my girlfriend went to Russia because she thought he was going to die,

In her city they have two hospitals, he spent 3 weeks in the lower grade one where he was stabilised. then they sent him home for two weeks because there was no space in the main hospital, then he finally got into the main hospital, was there for two weeks, then sent home in a terrible state, a lot worse than when he went in ! During this time they stopped all of the medication that he had been taking.

His doctor visited him today and said he does not need any medication ? Which i find very difficult to understand.
Right now he can't move at all, he is trapped on a sofa and too heavy for my girlfriend to lift so she has had to go and buy nappies to stop him soiling ! The only word he can speak is her name, nothing else and that is with a struggle.

Maybe they have decided that he is terminal and have just give up on him ? She is now battling to get him back into hospital or maybe a care home but they seem to be very reluctant to do this.

She is in total despair. I can only imagine how she feels, her last blood relative whom she adores in this state trapped on a sofa, can't speak, can't eat, can't move, it is really beyond belief in 2017 !!

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Re: Medical care in Russia - third world standards ?
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2017, 10:43:57 AM »
Try for an Adult Dependent Relative visa for UK. Expensive and little chance of success but better than nothing.


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Re: Medical care in Russia - third world standards ?
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2017, 10:49:16 AM »
Another thing is I found Russian health care ok, not fantastic but does the job. Suppose it varies from area to area.

At least it’s free at point of use, can you believe there are some countries where you have to pay, I saw one item in a bill for a hospital birth for $45 for transferring baby from birth hole to mother’s breast.

How backward is that?


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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2017, 12:30:59 PM »
Another thing is I found Russian health care ok, not fantastic but does the job. Suppose it varies from area to area.

At least it’s free at point of use, can you believe there are some countries where you have to pay, I saw one item in a bill for a hospital birth for $45 for transferring baby from birth hole to mother’s breast.

How backward is that?


Sounds like the USA. Healthcare costs are insane here.

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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2017, 12:34:20 PM »
He is 78 years old. He was on medication but suddenly about 3 months ago he found that he could not eat / swallow, lost a lot of weight as a result and was taken to hospital on deaths door looking like a skeleton and that is when my girlfriend went to Russia because she thought he was going to die,

In her city they have two hospitals, he spent 3 weeks in the lower grade one where he was stabilised. then they sent him home for two weeks because there was no space in the main hospital, then he finally got into the main hospital, was there for two weeks, then sent home in a terrible state, a lot worse than when he went in ! During this time they stopped all of the medication that he had been taking.

His doctor visited him today and said he does not need any medication ? Which i find very difficult to understand.
Right now he can't move at all, he is trapped on a sofa and too heavy for my girlfriend to lift so she has had to go and buy nappies to stop him soiling ! The only word he can speak is her name, nothing else and that is with a struggle.

Maybe they have decided that he is terminal and have just give up on him ? She is now battling to get him back into hospital or maybe a care home but they seem to be very reluctant to do this.

She is in total despair. I can only imagine how she feels, her last blood relative whom she adores in this state trapped on a sofa, can't speak, can't eat, can't move, it is really beyond belief in 2017 !!

I think it’s fairly obvious that these hospitals decided he was terminal. Clearly they should have informed.

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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2017, 12:57:16 PM »
My wife spent 6 weeks this summer in Russia to get medical care that was just too expensive to get done in the US.  She believes the American medical system sucks. 
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