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Berlin Objects to Sanctions From the USA
« on: July 31, 2017, 08:49:14 AM »
Berlin objects to sanctions against Russia from the USA. Word is that Trump is not happy either but unfortunately he's been backed into a corner by "TPTB".

https://www.rt.com/business/398065-germany-us-eu-russia-sanctions/

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Re: Berlin Objects to Sanctions From the USA
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2017, 12:03:08 PM »
We can be sure this is nothing to do with:

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Last week, both chambers of the US Congress decided to impose new sanctions against Russia over its Crimea reunification and alleged meddling in US elections.

And everything to do with:

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The bill appears to target Russia’s Nord Stream-2 pipeline that will deliver natural gas from Russia to Germany. The proposed expansion would double the existing pipeline's capacity and make Germany EU's main energy hub.

Germany doesn't want to lose money because of the anti-Russian fetishes of those in Washington.

The whole purpose of this is to try to stop Russia selling more utilities to the EU. Which has zero to do with the US.

Nothing changes. Trump is more of the same.

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Re: Berlin Objects to Sanctions From the USA
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2017, 01:37:45 PM »
We can be sure this is nothing to do with:

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Last week, both chambers of the US Congress decided to impose new sanctions against Russia over its Crimea reunification and alleged meddling in US elections.

And everything to do with:

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The bill appears to target Russia’s Nord Stream-2 pipeline that will deliver natural gas from Russia to Germany. The proposed expansion would double the existing pipeline's capacity and make Germany EU's main energy hub.

Germany doesn't want to lose money because of the anti-Russian fetishes of those in Washington.

The whole purpose of this is to try to stop Russia selling more utilities to the EU. Which has zero to do with the US.

Nothing changes. Trump is more of the same.

I don't agree that "Trump is more of the same". He clearly wants a good relationship with Russia but he's been hampered by Congress and the "deep state".

It will be very interesting to see what happens next. This doesn't bode well for world peace.


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Re: Berlin Objects to Sanctions From the USA
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2017, 01:56:22 PM »
This is merely gossip at this point but it's why Trump may go along with Congress.

http://yournewswire.com/deep-state-military-coup-trump/

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Re: Berlin Objects to Sanctions From the USA
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2017, 07:13:01 PM »
Trump had no choice but to sign the sanctions (they could not be veto'd due to the vote) however he made it clear he is not happy with Congress.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/02/trump-signs-bipartisan-russia-sanctions-bill-241242

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Re: Berlin Objects to Sanctions From the USA
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2017, 02:17:37 AM »


Nothing changes. Trump is more of the same.

Hmm, you seem to overlook that

Trump would have looked an ever BIGGER idiot if he had vetoed a bill that unites Congress - just about..

"Republican Lindsey Graham praised the bill after it passed, pointing out that Mr Trump's options were limited since there were enough votes to overcome a presidential veto.

President Putin did something that nobody in America could do. He united the Congress," the South Carolina senator told CNN."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40809715

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Re: Berlin Objects to Sanctions From the USA
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2017, 10:50:59 AM »
Director Oliver Stone opinion on the sanctions.

– Mid-Summer Anger –
"Congress passed its beloved Russia sanctions last week by a vote of 419-3! The Senate followed with a vote of 98-2!! I guess ‘American Exceptionalism’ includes the vast stupidity inherent in having two giant oceans to distance us from the rest of humanity.
With all the Apples and Microsofts and computer geniuses we have in our country, can we not even accept the possibility that perhaps our intelligence agencies are not doing their job, and maybe, just maybe, are deliberately misleading us to continue their false-flag war against Russia? Or for that matter, that Russia itself may not be that invested in screwing up our vaunted democracy with such sloppy malware as claimed? Especially in view of the strong statement put out by Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, a group of reform-minded veterans throwing a dose of acid on the infamous ‘Brennan-Clapper Report’ of January 6, 2017. With this report alone (see below), much less the overt lying and leaking that’s been going on, both James Clapper (‘We don’t do surveillance on our own citizens’) and John Brennan (‘Drones and torture? None of our business') should be investigated as thoroughly as Michael Flynn, Jared Kushner, Trump’s son, etc.
What’s happened to Elizabeth Warren, Barbara Lee, or any of the people who’ve displayed some independent thinking in the past? Have they actually read this report? Somebody out there in DC, please explain to me this omission of common sense. Are the Washington Post and the New York Times so powerful that no one bothers to read or think beyond them? It seems the TV stations in this country take their copy from them.
I accept the US decline. That’s a given -- after all, compare our broken-down New York subway system with Moscow’s, as well as many other cities’ pristine and impeccable services. These sanctions, which I pray Europe can independently judge and discard, are as dumb as giving out medals to Generals who keep losing wars. I still have this image burned in my brain of Petraeus with his 11/12(?) rows of ribbons, many looking like Boy Scout badges, surrounded by adoring Congressmen as he lied his way through his foreign policy testimony.
Never mind that any moment now a Dr. Strangelove-type incident can occur -- with less reaction time, say 15 minutes, compared to the 1960s 2/3 hours. We are truly at the edge as Mr. P pointed out in the documentary I made. Such Roman arrogance, such blindness, calls out for another Vietnam, another Iraq. We’re screaming for some Karmic Boot up the ass. Destroying our pride would be a favor that the gods could do us."

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Re: Berlin Objects to Sanctions From the USA
« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2017, 06:48:53 AM »
I dont understand the story ? But the US owns Berlin ? or am I wrong??   :laugh: