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Malorossiya
« on: July 18, 2017, 02:31:51 PM »
The Donetsk People's Republic has declared the establishment of a new country - Malorossiya - which the local leadership described as a successor state to Ukraine.

DONETSK (Sputnik) — Self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) Leader Alexander Zakharchenko proposed on Tuesday a three-year transition period toward a new state called Malorossiya ("Little Russia") as a way to settle the three-year conflict.

More here: https://sputniknews.com/politics/201707181055637932-donetsk-malorossiya-ukraine/

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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2017, 03:37:07 PM »


BIG RUSSIA QUASHES HOPES OF LITTLE RUSSIA IN UKRAINE

http://www.newsweek.com/big-russia-quashes-hopes-little-russia-ukraine-638440
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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2017, 06:25:43 AM »
There's something odd about this. It seems that the announcement was made without the folks in LPR having agreed to such a thing.

The Russian position is clear and consistent. The LPR/DPR are part of Ukraine and should remain so.

The reality, that it is the Kievan regime's inability to implement the matters to which they agreed under Minsk 2 that are forcing developments in the LPR and DPR and, at some point there will be a joined administration covering the two regions. It looks as though today, right now, is not that time. I don't expect that unless, something very major happens, that there will be any likelihood that Russia will incorporate the LPR/DPR into the Russian Federation. I do expect that Russian documentation, legislation, relationships will tend to become more prevalent in the vacuum left by the absence of the Ukrainian state from the region.

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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2017, 10:29:18 AM »
It actually means little Russia, but unfortunately in the latin vernacular this means 'sick' - an unfortunate choice

https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/6o1db9/the_president_of_the_donetsk_peoples_republic/

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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2017, 01:34:27 PM »
If anyone is interested in the declaration contents.

Full Text: Official Declaration of the Malorossiyan Federation

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/full-text-official-declaration-malorossiyan-federation/ri20432
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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2017, 03:18:20 PM »
If anyone is interested in the declaration contents.

Full Text: Official Declaration of the Malorossiyan Federation

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/full-text-official-declaration-malorossiyan-federation/ri20432

Mal....

It sound like a virus.  :chuckle:

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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2017, 04:25:09 PM »
There's nothing 'official' about largely unrecognised entities..  the  'novosrossiya' experiment was a massive failure, too


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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2017, 04:58:04 PM »
the  'novosrossiya' experiment was a massive failure, too

Plenty of time for that. It'll likely happen when Ukraine breaks up properly.

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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2017, 11:17:56 PM »


Plenty of time for that. It'll likely happen when Ukraine breaks up properly.

Wishful thinking ?

I don't know how many largely unrecognised 'countries' you've been to, - I've been to a few  - including the 'Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus' and 'Abkhazia'  - and there is a charm in the distinct lack of investment and surrealism that brings, but 35 years on the 'TRNC' is still waiting ..

 

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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2017, 02:49:11 AM »
It actually means little Russia, but unfortunately in the latin vernacular this means 'sick' - an unfortunate choice

https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/6o1db9/the_president_of_the_donetsk_peoples_republic/

It looks nothing like the confederate battle flag. With an opening sentence like that, how can you take the rest of it seriously?

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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2017, 02:59:56 AM »
It actually means little Russia, but unfortunately in the latin vernacular this means 'sick' - an unfortunate choice

https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/6o1db9/the_president_of_the_donetsk_peoples_republic/

English   Latin (translated indirectly)   Esperanto
info sick
(info ailing
; info ill
; info unwell
)   info aeger
; info aegrotus

Now if you said 'bad' (Mal) that might come close in verb transformation, but I doubt it.


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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2017, 04:05:21 AM »


It looks nothing like the confederate battle flag. With an opening sentence like that, how can you take the rest of it seriously?

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That was a third party 'comment' ... first time with reddit ?

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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2017, 04:10:23 AM »

It actually means little Russia, but unfortunately in the latin vernacular this means 'sick' - an unfortunate choice



English   Latin (translated indirectly)   Esperanto
info sick
(info ailing
; info ill
; info unwell
)   info aeger
; info aegrotus

Now if you said 'bad' (Mal) that might come close in verb transformation, but I doubt it.

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IF you did Latin at school, you clearly forgot it

Viz:

"Inflected form of malus (“bad, evil”).

Pronunciation[edit]
(Classical) IPA(key): /ˈma.loː/
Adjective[edit]
malō

masculine dative singular of malus
masculine ablative singular of malus
neuter dative singular of malus
neuter ablative singular of malus
Etymology 2[edit]
Inflected form of mālus (“apple tree”).

Noun[edit]
mālō

dative singular of mālus
ablative singular of mālus"

Source Wiki ..


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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2017, 03:07:35 PM »


Plenty of time for that. It'll likely happen when Ukraine breaks up properly.

Wishful thinking ?


Hardly wishful, what happens in Ukraine doesn't really put a dent in my day either way. Although I am sorry for all the lives lost unnecessarily as a result of the EU/US intervention and regime change in Ukraine that created the current troubles.

I think it's safe to say the east of Ukraine (Donetsk, Lugansk, et al) that have declared a desire to be independent and/or closer to Russia, who eschew control from Kiev, will never again reunite with what is left of Ukraine in its current guise. Crimea has already gone and won't return.

It is quite possible what remains of Ukraine will break up yet further as Willy Wonka Poroshenko continues his EU/US funded war on dissidents. It may be the case that in time, even if the Malorossiya proposal does not gain traction, there will eventually be a territory that encompasses Donetsk, Lugansk, et al and later includes a land bridge to Crimea. It likely won't be part of the Russian Federation for many years, but it will be as close as say Belarus in all practical aspects.

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Re: Malorossiya
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2017, 04:33:07 PM »

It actually means little Russia, but unfortunately in the latin vernacular this means 'sick' - an unfortunate choice



English   Latin (translated indirectly)   Esperanto
info sick
(info ailing
; info ill
; info unwell
)   info aeger
; info aegrotus

Now if you said 'bad' (Mal) that might come close in verb transformation, but I doubt it.

Markje

IF you did Latin at school, you clearly forgot it

Viz:

"Inflected form of malus (“bad, evil”).

Pronunciation[edit]
(Classical) IPA(key): /ˈma.loː/
Adjective[edit]
malō

masculine dative singular of malus
masculine ablative singular of malus
neuter dative singular of malus
neuter ablative singular of malus
Etymology 2[edit]
Inflected form of mālus (“apple tree”).

Noun[edit]
mālō

dative singular of mālus
ablative singular of mālus"

Source Wiki ..
Long post to say I was right, you were wrong. It meant bad and not sick.
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