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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2008, 07:41:54 PM »
My theory is; a native hand penning the address and customs label (or next best thing - printed by you in the absence of the lady) and not in English bar the country, demonstrates that it is probably a native sending something home. In that event, if it is sent bog standard untracked air mail, and in a crappy old box or recycled Jiffy bag, the postal thieves will look at it and assume the customs label is correct and no native would send anything of value. They will leave it alone and it will reach its destination.

They will much prefer something written in English in a flashy USPS box that effectively says "I am valuable but am trying to fool you" or better yet, something that says "I am tracked, so I am surely valuable - steal me"

Anything of value is potentially a supplement to Hairy Boris's salary, anything boring and local looking is not interesting. We dont even use stamps as they have the Queen on and shout "England" - we use Post Office printed labels - make it look as boring as possible. That way they have a better chance of passing Boris's "I only have 10 seconds - maybe interesting to steal" test.

I used to send stuff in English and Cyrillic full of stamps of a smiling Queen and in sparkly new packaging - success rate 50%

With old ex e-bay recycled packaging, full of used tape, only in Cyrillic, with printed postal labels - success rate 100%

We send stuff probably once every 2 weeks. The 100% success rate this way has been for almost 2 years. Thats maybe 50 packages with no tracking and no English on except the word "Russia."
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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2008, 12:12:01 AM »
Thank you for the WB, Manny. :bow: (no curtsey emote  ;) )

"Domestic appliance components" -- I like it! I'm not so much worried about theft as I am about getting the @#$% things through the border without a hefty duty payment. Belarus is much like Russia, only at least twice as Soviet. It would be different if I could carry a third suitcase, because I've never had a problem dealing with customs in the Minsk airport even before they adopted the red and green channels seen elsewhere.

I do address parcels in Russian and usually use recycled heavy-duty boxes and similarly sturdy tape. All parcels get X-rayed by Meest in Ukraine before going on to Belarus, to make sure there's nothing that would make Belarusian customs workers crazy. I think a couple of obviously new kitchen appliances would trigger too much interest, which is why I thought of separating the parts of the appliances (a food processor and a hand mixer) and putting the parts into different parcels, or maybe shipping some parts and packing the rest of the pieces in my luggage. (And now that I've opened both appliances and looked them over, I think I'll make my priority getting the food processor there and plan on getting the mixer there at a later time.)

USPS is out, though. Their best price is at least double the cost of Meest or another Ukrainian-owned private carrier called Dnipro, and USPS is no faster.

Welcome back Lindochka!  :bow:

As eccentric as it may sound; I bought some shoes in Holland recently. After a few weeks some of the stitching came away where the upper joins the sole. Me being in England and the retailer in Holland, taking them back was not much of an option. So I took them to a local shoe repairer, he gave me tales of 'hard work' and 'special machines' and them having to be 'sent away' and talked his way up to £30.  :o

My wife was having none of this. The offending shoe was sent to Russia - £3-50 with Royal Mail, it was repaired there at a princely sum of £3. We will collect it in April as we are going anyway - total cost £6-50 ($13)

Russian mail service!  :party0031:

Lindochka - I gather Belarus is the same as Russia in most regards? Nobody will steal 'domestic appliance components' with a declared value of $3 surely? Especially if not wrapped in inviting looking USPS boxes.


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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2008, 08:31:15 AM »

Got my USPS parcel today!

... Dispatching date, let me remind you, was December 28...
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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2008, 02:47:34 PM »
Quote from: lindochka
(a food processor and a hand mixer)

Just a thought. The US is on 110 volts? Belarus will be on 220 volts as is Russia and Europe I expect.  :duh:

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Got my USPS parcel today! Dispatching date, let me remind you, was December 28...

5 ish weeks is the same time from UK to Russia. Seems reasonable.
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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2008, 05:54:57 PM »
Manny, don't worry. As noted in my first post in this thread they are

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two relatively small 220V kitchen appliances

Although "relatively small" is a matter of opinion. The food processor is actually quite large and looks like one could pilot a jet with it. Good for making lots of stuff to feed my hungry men, though! Bonus -- with instructions in Russian, DM can try using it if he dares. :o

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You must have a fascinating story. I do not hear very often of many women from the US marrying someone from Belarus and moving there to live. Did I miss the post where you introduced yourself?

Rasputin, my introductory post was some months back. I think I told at least part of DM's and my romantic comedy in that, but you may very well not have seen it. We met for the first time during what was a sort of a personal pilgrimage for me. In late 1999, following an almost year-long search conducted mostly via the internet, I located my mother's paternal relatives in Belarus. They were very excited to be found and immediately invited me to visit, which I did the following summer.

I've visited them annually since. DM was married when we first became acquainted, but then he wasn't married anymore (which I had nothing to do with). We became a couple about three years ago, meeting several times a year in Ukraine. The Ukrainian visa-free regime was a real boon, since it meant we could plan to meet on fairly short notice.

We knew fairly early on that we wanted to marry and our original plan was for him to come here. He was pretty apprehensive about America for many reasons -- he hadn't been looking for a foreign woman when we clicked. (He hadn't been looking at all, and neither had I.) He also has children from before me and contrary to the usual stereotype of FSUM, he not only pays child support without complaint but he is deeply involved in their lives. DM was clear that he would never turn his back on them, not that I would ask him to.

Last summer, I lucked into the opportunity to take very, very early retirement from a job which was crushing my soul, and I jumped at the chance. I left to see the folks less than a week later and within a day or two of my arrival DM told me we should get married already. There's nothing holding me in the US and DM and I agree that "home" is wherever we can be together. So I'm on my way.

(Apologies to all for a seriously long-a$$ed post.)
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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2008, 08:46:26 AM »
My wife brought a huge food processor and blender to England from Russia. My assertion that such things are cheap here did not cut much ice.

We have developed a habit of sending electric tin openers though, nobody seems to have seen them in Russia and they are only about 10 quid at Asda Wal-Mart. The plug adaptor and the postage exceeds the cost of the appliance, but folk like them.
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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2008, 07:15:20 AM »
I just sent a package from Dallas to Kharkov. In postoffice Friday 4:00 arived Tuesday 12:00 Kharkov time.

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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2008, 04:41:52 AM »
If your from Australia, Australia Posts' Express Post International is best and securest to the FSU.
 
One to three Kg stretchable bags are used, and you fill in forms on bag and they are distributed to particular sections local plane international.
Dont forget to send lady information what is in the package so she can claim it as FSU customs can be rude to lady if she doesnt know what she is recieving

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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2008, 04:26:00 PM »
Just as an update to this topic, info not mentioned already.

It is claimed you can track international recorded mail inside Russia and Ukraine. I haven't tested it, so I don't know how reliable it is. (And I prefer un-tracked air mail anyway fro the reasons already stated.) But if anyone wants it, the sites are here.

Russia: http://www.russianpost.ru/portal/en/home/postal/trackingpo

Ukraine: http://www.ukrposhta.com/
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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2008, 04:44:00 PM »
For those considering trying to send stuff here is my recent experience.

I recently sent something to Moscow Via USPS Express mail. The package was tracked with delivery confirmation to it's ultimate destination. The box was labeled in English only, this was at the end of November. Shipping time was 7-10 days and package arrived undamaged, and unmolested.

YMMV..

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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2008, 06:54:40 PM »
I have used USPS for all cards and packages.

I have sent many cards this year to Ukraine. Just recently I sent 7 New Years cards to my fiancee family and friends. All cards have arrived. The funny thing is she has one friend in Canada and she is always the last one to receive our cards.

I have also sent many packages, all have arrived. She has to go to post office and show her passport to pick up package. Then she has to open package there and make sure everything is there.

It takes anywhere from 5 to 10 days for things to get to her, she lives in Rivne.

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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2008, 06:25:46 AM »
Parcels from Australia to Russia by avia takes 3 weeks and it is saved! :party0011: But looks like a way from Russia to Australia is a little longer...we will know it later.

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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2008, 12:29:38 PM »
I have a question about US Mail to the FSU.

They used to have surface mail (ship), airmail, priority mail and express mail.

It now appears that they have first class mail, priority mail and express mail and global express guaranteed.

My question is this, did they eliminate surface mail or airmail.  Does "first-class" mail to Russia go by surface mail or by airplane?  They only say delivery time for first class mail "varies".  I can seem to find out anywhere if first class mail is actually transported like the old airmail.  The rates are the same as the old airmail. 

Anybody have any facts, ideas or opinions on this question?
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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2008, 02:10:00 PM »
I also have a question about the "theft" problem with mail from the US to Ukraine. How bad is it. I have been sending things via DHL, but it is way to expensive for a letter or card, small parcel, etc.
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Re: Sending Items by Mail to Russia, Ukraine and Belarus (FSU)
« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2008, 02:28:39 PM »
I also have a question about the "theft" problem with mail from the US to Ukraine. How bad is it. I have been sending things via DHL, but it is way to expensive for a letter or card, small parcel, etc.

I recently sent 7 cards to my fiancee's family and friends. I also recently sent 2 package to her and her family. My mother also sent a package to her. All packages had gifts inside them. Everything arrives in about 10 days. I have never had any problems sending cards or packages by USPS. I would use nobody else can not beat the price!!!