Gifts for your visit

[rw_recruiter]

Life is too short to waste time pretending to be some kind of Alpha by ignoring the information provided by the manufacturer.

If you have a problem setting up a new device I suggest you pass it to one of the ten year olds in your area. I am sure they can guide you through the process with ease.

[AvHdB]

Life is too short to waste time pretending to be some kind of Alpha by ignoring the information provided by the manufacturer.

If you have a problem setting up a new device I suggest you pass it to one of the ten year olds in your area. I am sure they can guide you through the process with ease.

Yes there is quite of truth unfortunately in the skill sets of ten year old children today. But if you ask a ten year has he/she ever played Pooh Sticks you get a blank stare back.

[andrewfi]

rwrecruiter, if this is the limit of your cognitive capabilities then you may find that the route you think you want to take is, sadly, not open to you. That will apply with, or without an instruction manual.

Take a moment to think before posting. The words that you think are golden as you hit 'post' may turn out to be mere fool's gold upon a moment's reflection.

[rw_recruiter]

rwrecruiter, if this is the limit of your cognitive capabilities then you may find that the route you think you want to take is, sadly, not open to you. That will apply with, or without an instruction manual.

Take a moment to think before posting. The words that you think are golden as you hit 'post' may turn out to be mere fool's gold upon a moment's reflection.

This coming from a man who competes with Indians and Pakis for writing gigs on Fiverr. The hilarity ensues.

[Ste]

Another septic character change...

[andrewfi]

Well done, you have outed yourself and done what any fool can do - turned up something I do. No secret, nothing hidden, but it sure as shit is not what you imagine. But yes, we know about you now. It didn't take long did it?

Look, sunshine, whatever you think you have, or want to imagine you might have, you got nothing. You can learn now, or like most stupid, arrogant, sceptics, you can discover it later on, on your own. The things you want to do, I, and a few others, have already done. You ain't the first, horny, lonely, man who thinks that the world revolves around him and his meagre wallet. You have made contact with somebody,  possibly a woman, who will eat you for breakfast and spit out the bubbles.

Your hubris will ensure your failure. You will be laughed at in years to come just as we remember the bloke whose 'girlfriend' locked him on his apartment, or the bloke who thought taking a woman on vacation meant she owed him 'something'.

I wish you success, I expect something much less and, probably, much funnier.

[rw_recruiter]

Andrew, I know more about you than you may think. In my industry we have tools at our disposal to vet candidates.

You are too easy a target. Let's leave it at that and I wish you the best.

[Tom Cat]

Those that have vast experience in the pursuit of an FSUW, and eastern Europe in general know with 100% certainty our hero is destined to fall.
But when you think you look younger than your age, and your well to do then it's not possible she can resist your charm.
 If you have the real thing you don't need to buy gifts , or use a vacation to seal the deal.
It's very entertaining humor reading the OP's posts. We know he is destined to crash and burn, but most likely will believe he was successful.

The train wreck room is filled with stories much like our Hero's quest is starting out.

[rw_recruiter]

Let's define success.

I assume for many here it is marriage to a much younger and better looking woman than they could land at home. I am not looking for marriage, so that definition does not apply in my case. Too old for kids, too many assets, no desire for additional risk or headache. Those looking for a wife have a much tougher battle than I do. There is much more involved. More to take into consideration.

A young, good looking girlfriend is all I am looking for. Not very hard to achieve now is it? I find it hard to believe there are not at least a few men on this forum that have been able accomplish that with ease.

[AvHdB]

Let's define success.

I assume for many here it is marriage to a much younger and better looking woman than they could land at home. I am not looking for marriage, so that definition does not apply in my case. Too old for kids, too many assets, no desire for additional risk or headache. Those looking for a wife have a much tougher battle than I do. There is much more involved. More to take into consideration.

A young, good looking girlfriend is all I am looking for. Not very hard to achieve now is it? I find it hard to believe there are not at least a few men on this forum that have been able accomplish that with ease.

There are a number of problems with your logic.

The vast majority of 'smokin hor ovas' know there value and can find a local man to support them as they believe they are entitled. The majority of women under the age of 27 in the former Soviet Union are flaky, and often entitled. I have met them and dated them. Fun for a while

Some men on this forum has dated and married those younger women, only a few are still married 7 years on.

But if you just want a 'good time girl' there are a variety of sites that cater to 'travel women' and those seeking 'sponsorship or sugar daddy'. But please define what you are looking for to your words now in bold.

[dcguyusa]

I have come across people who seek "friends with benefits".  Maybe something like commitment with no strings attached   

[rw_recruiter]

I am not seeking marriage as I mentioned. I am searching for a long term girlfriend.

I assume you understand that in life there is no black and white. There are many shades of the spectrum. Some of the many women you dated as you pranced around the Ukraine may have been with you for security (money) or to try something new (date a foreigner). That same woman most likely is now with a man much closer to her age, no? Probably with less money. Maybe better looking, maybe not. Maybe funnier? Likely has more in common with her culture.

It is our goal to find what makes us happy at that moment in time. To find someone that fulfills what we are looking for during that period. For some of us (the married guys), that may span 7 or 10 years. Others of us are just looking to intersect paths for a short time. A 21 year old woman will certainly not commit to a much older man for very long. She will grow emotionally and her needs and wants will change. But that is ok, we will have both gained what we want during that period.

[dcguyusa]

Let's define success.

I would venture to say having the most toys at the end of the lifespan.  "toys" can be a specific type of category (e.g., money, fame, family, career, etc.)

[Tom Cat]

If you desire to sponsor a young girl, then why go to Ukraine?
Trying to label her as being a girlfriend is hilarious to say the least.
You are just basically looking to pay for companionship, I definitely don't consider that successful.

[rw_recruiter]

Let's define success.

I would venture to say having the most toys at the end of the lifespan.  "toys" can be a specific type of category (e.g., money, fame, family, career, etc.)

Most people see it quite differently during the last few minutes of their life.

[AvHdB]

I am not seeking marriage as I mentioned. I am searching for a long term girlfriend.

Good luck with this plan! You have almost zero understanding of the former Soviet Union mentality.

[rw_recruiter]

You are just basically looking to pay for companionship, I definitely don't consider that successful.

If it makes me happy why would that not be success? You are going to pay for companionship in one way or another. Some men pay fro escorts, some buy a big house and change diapers. It's all the same in the end, no?

[2tallbill]

I am curious as to what other members brought as gifts to the women and families. What was well received? What is something that made them smile?

Every State in the USA has a number of coffee table picture books of the
beautiful sites, parks, etc. I would bring a couple of those. Anything unique
or home made. Example, if you have home made gooseberry jam or elderberry
syrup or real maple syrup in your area like AV suggested, it would give them
a taste of where you are from.

I wouldn't spend too much time on it, something small and personally from
you, that you could easily give to anyone. 

Warning Tough love part. I think you should keep a positive
attitude, but the odds are high that it won't work out, and that the minute
that you don't buy her a new pair of boots, or a $$$$ shopping trip that she
leaves you in the dust. I hope I am dead wrong and this girl is genuine and
sincere. Don't get into a taxi with her unless you know the price ahead of time.

I don't know how well your girl speaks English but always use your own translator.
If you don't know anyone you can call Igor, he lives in Odessa and has a very
good BS detector.
http://www.igorkalinin.com/index.en.html

[AvHdB]

You are just basically looking to pay for companionship, I definitely don't consider that successful.

If it makes me happy why would that not be success? You are going to pay for companionship in one way or another. Some men pay fro escorts, some buy a big house and change diapers. It's all the same in the end, no?

For a woman from what was the Soviet Union it certainly is not what you are describing.

[rw_recruiter]

I am curious as to what other members brought as gifts to the women and families. What was well received? What is something that made them smile?

Every State in the USA has a number of coffee table picture books of the
beautiful sites, parks, etc. I would bring a couple of those. Anything unique
or home made. Example, if you have home made gooseberry jam or elderberry
syrup or real maple syrup in your area like AV suggested, it would give them
a taste of where you are from.

I wouldn't spend too much time on it, something small and personally from
you, that you could easily give to anyone. 

Warning Tough love part. I think you should keep a positive
attitude, but the odds are high that it won't work out, and that the minute
that you don't buy her a new pair of boots, or a $$$$ shopping trip that she
leaves you in the dust. I hope I am dead wrong and this girl is genuine and
sincere. Don't get into a taxi with her unless you know the price ahead of time.

I don't know how well your girl speaks English but always use your own translator.
If you don't know anyone you can call Igor, he lives in Odessa and has a very
good BS detector.
http://www.igorkalinin.com/index.en.html

Thank you for the good advice. I don't plan on taking her shopping once I arrive. I did help her brother out with boots and her babushka needs some help with the house, but I will be there in person so am not worried.

[Tom Cat]

Every little tidbit you share reaffirms you don't see the red flags waving in your face.
But for now let's say by your standard your trip was a success, what next?
The moment you leave she meets up with her local boyfriend. You don't expect commitment do you?

How often do you plan to visit?
Really your logic is very flawed, but this will be made easier to understand with time.

[rw_recruiter]

What next? She moves into my condo and we do things a normal couple does. Pretty simple really. I do expect her to stay faithful while we are together. I have no need for STD's as exciting as they may sound. I imagine I will visit once or twice (maybe a vacation) and fly her over.

[Tom Cat]

Providing she can get a visa,

[AvHdB]

What next? She moves into my condo and we do things a normal couple does. Pretty simple really. I do expect her to stay faithful while we are together. I have no need for STD's as exciting as they may sound. I imagine I will visit once or twice (maybe a vacation) and fly her over.

You are not going to Walmart to get a set of tires.

There are threads on RUA that will give you insight into the mentality of women from the former Soviet Union. I would read some and perhaps you will talk less.

I am curious though where do you reside?

My suggestion get on the silver bird and meet your Inessa, and than get back to RUA with a report.   

[rw_recruiter]

You are not going to Walmart to get a set of tires.

I am curious though where do you reside?

So says the man who dated half of Ukraine. I am a New York transplant living in Boca Raton.