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Hello Everyone
« on: July 09, 2017, 10:38:31 AM »
Nice to meet you. I joined to hopefully learn a bit more about Russian women before I begin my quest. I have been chatting with several beautiful women over the last few months and one has really caught my eye. She is a bit younger than myself, but it seems we have much in common. And she is beautiful to boot.

I have already booked my tickets to Odessa so am excited to finally get to meet her. First time out of country and may be a bit challenging since she speaks no English, but I am optimistic.

I fly through Austria by the way. Is it a difficult airport to navigate?




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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2017, 11:19:41 AM »
Welcome,
The airport in Vienna is quite small and very easy to navigate.
Are you just planning to meet the one lady?  Maybe you could give us a bit more information about your upcoming trip. There are some very experienced members here that could give you some helpful tips.
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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2017, 11:41:10 AM »
Thank you Tom Cat. Yes, it will just be the one lady. I fell head over heels and she writes beautiful letters. She is nothing like the American women I have dated locally. I am a bit older, but she says it feels like we are from the same generation. I assume because Western pop culture was delayed while she grew up.

I have booked an apartment in the city close to everything. Prices are quite cheap in Ukraine right now! Only $24 USD per night for a decent place.



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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2017, 12:21:04 PM »
Sometimes when meeting in person there is no chemistry, and things can go south very quickly.
Have you made any backup plans ?
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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2017, 12:46:46 PM »
Not with women, but I am an IT recruiter, so planned to meet some Ukrainian developers while there. They are currently in high demand so I will do some scouting on the ground. Maybe one has a sister?

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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2017, 01:06:52 PM »
Here is the thread on the tablets of stone. Our own leslied wrote and
article back when we had to sail to Russia on ships with masts, but
most of it rings true today.

http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,3588.0.html

Here is a thread that another member wrote giving advice

http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,4390.0.html

FSUW are not for entry level daters. FSUW don't do vague FSUW like a man of action so be a man of action  If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane. There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.
Get an apartment not a hotel. DON'T recycle girls

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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2017, 01:46:16 PM »
Thank you Tom Cat. Yes, it will just be the one lady. I fell head over heels and she writes beautiful letters. She is nothing like the American women I have dated locally. I am a bit older, but she says it feels like we are from the same generation. I assume because Western pop culture was delayed while she grew up.

I have booked an apartment in the city close to everything. Prices are quite cheap in Ukraine right now! Only $24 USD per night for a decent place.

How much is 'a bit'?

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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2017, 01:50:43 PM »
Inessa is 21 and I am 47 years old. But I look much younger than my age I am told.

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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2017, 02:02:35 PM »
Welcome to RUA. 
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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2017, 02:11:09 PM »
Inessa is 21 and I am 47 years old. But I look much younger than my age I am told.

Oh dear.....

Forget it, honestly. I pushed it with a 20 year age gap and all this 'I look younger than I am' stuff is platitudes and while things are still going strong, I'd definitely not recommend anyone else does it unless you're just after some rumpy-pumpy.

We were lucky since we are both super-intelligent (not saying your not), could discuss particle physics/quantum entanglement right from the get-go and she spoke A1 English from the start, but with a big age difference and no way to communicate like adults, well.....

The western culture catchup thing is bollocks, Soviet Union ended nearly 30 years ago and generally European lasses, even Eastern ones are far more free and liberal and switched on and yes, sexually open than 50 year old men from anywhere really.

We can say ' :censored: ' on TV here, everything is far more open this side of the pond.







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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2017, 02:14:21 PM »
Inessa is 21 and I am 47 years old. But I look much younger than my age I am told.

My advice is that you will need to have a backup plan. Odessa is the marriage
industry capital of the FSU. They have an entire industry designed to make
your wallet slimmer.

You are probably pushing the envelope too far. 21 year old girls look great their
tight little bodies defy gravity but they rarely have the maturity to succeed in
an international relationship, where they have to leave all their friends and
family, their language, history and culture.

My second piece of advice is that you choose the restaurant the first 3 days
and not to go on any shopping trips and see if the girl is still interested in you.
Arrange your own taxi's, translation and airport pickup.

Did you meet this girl on a pay by the letter site?

I can give you details on how to set up a good backup plan.
I hope for your success, but I am not going to blow sunshine up your kilt.
It's not likely in my opinion.

FSUW are not for entry level daters. FSUW don't do vague FSUW like a man of action so be a man of action  If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane. There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.
Get an apartment not a hotel. DON'T recycle girls

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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2017, 02:16:37 PM »
Inessa is 21 and I am 47 years old. But I look much younger than my age I am told.

My advice is that you will need to have a backup plan. Odessa is the marriage
industry capital of the FSU. They have an entire industry designed to make
your wallet slimmer.

You are probably pushing the envelope too far. 21 year old girls look great their
tight little bodies defy gravity but they rarely have the maturity to succeed in
an international relationship, where they have to leave all their friends and
family, their language, history and culture.

My second piece of advice is that you choose the restaurant the first 3 days
and not to go on any shopping trips and see if the girl is still interested in you.
Arrange your own taxi's, translation and airport pickup.

Did you meet this girl on a pay by the letter site?

I can give you details on how to set up a good backup plan.
I hope for your success, but I am not going to blow sunshine up your kilt.
It's not likely in my opinion.

Thank you for the advice. I appreciate it and am open to hearing more.

Yes, I met her on a dating site called Anastasiadate.

We have chatted quite a bit and get along very well. Not sure why it would not work out, but plenty of women on the planet if not.

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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2017, 02:29:22 PM »
Inessa is 21 and I am 47 years old. But I look much younger than my age I am told.

My advice is that you will need to have a backup plan. Odessa is the marriage
industry capital of the FSU. They have an entire industry designed to make
your wallet slimmer.

You are probably pushing the envelope too far. 21 year old girls look great their
tight little bodies defy gravity but they rarely have the maturity to succeed in
an international relationship, where they have to leave all their friends and
family, their language, history and culture.

My second piece of advice is that you choose the restaurant the first 3 days
and not to go on any shopping trips and see if the girl is still interested in you.
Arrange your own taxi's, translation and airport pickup.

Did you meet this girl on a pay by the letter site?

I can give you details on how to set up a good backup plan.
I hope for your success, but I am not going to blow sunshine up your kilt.
It's not likely in my opinion.

Thank you for the advice. I appreciate it and am open to hearing more.

Yes, I met her on a dating site called Anastasiadate.

We have chatted quite a bit and get along very well. Not sure why it would not work out, but plenty of women on the planet if not.

Read this http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php/topic,15935.0.html
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2017, 02:43:56 PM »

Thank you for the advice. I appreciate it and am open to hearing more.

Yes, I met her on a dating site called Anastasiadate.

We have chatted quite a bit and get along very well. Not sure why it would not work out, but plenty of women on the planet if not.

First, you are going to get a lot of advice, some very good and some
that is more dubious. Whatever you do, don't get offended and defensive.
You are relatively anonymous here and you will get some good stuff along
with the negative.

Nobody knows your own situation better than you. So sift through all the
advice and use the best and ignore the rest. Eventually somebody will come
along and beat you up a bit, just move on and don't respond. 

You do have some things going for you. You have a ticket and a plan.
Now you need a backup plan.

The worst back up plan
Mope around feeling sorry for yourself, go to the beach, get the sunburn
from hell and don't ask any of the beautiful bikini clad girls out on a date. 

The wimpy back up plan
Explore the country and learn something about it. This is always something
you do when exploring a country but not the whole plan. 

The retread backup plan.
Go meet girls that you've already delegated to second place. You want
and need a first place girl. The girls don't like being second place girls
so leave them be and meet new girls.

The Popka! back up plan
Meet attractive girls and see if you have chemistry.

Regarding AD, we have threads about them. You can search for them using
the search feature or you can ask and somebody can find them for you.

This girl might be a serious girl who really likes you (but not likely). You've
made plans to meet her so go meet her, but if you don't feel mutual
chemistry, then don't wait, launch your back up plan.

Read those two links that I posted earlier. One of them explains how to set
up a backup plan. As you read, you will have questions, come back here
and ask them.

ABOVE ALL HAVE FUN!!
If you can't have fun pursuing FSUW then you are doing it wrong!

FSUW are not for entry level daters. FSUW don't do vague FSUW like a man of action so be a man of action  If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane. There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.
Get an apartment not a hotel. DON'T recycle girls

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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2017, 08:31:05 PM »
Anastasia date.... :hidechair:

Have you read the Trainwreck room??
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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2017, 08:53:28 PM »
Anastasia date.... :hidechair:

Have you read the Trainwreck room??

I have not ventured there yet, but the link Ste provided does bring up a few questions. The woman I am speaking to assures me that everything is on the up and up these days as far as agencies, they even check the girls passports for verification.

Thank you for the great info popka. I do not plan on sulking in the hotel room. Odessa seems to be a very active vibrant city with much to see and do. I will take advantage of that while visiting.

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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2017, 10:35:17 PM »
Welcome, rw

Does that stand for 'Russian' Women ?!

Sadly, I concur with every word of advice you've had here, but - HEY - you might actually be the exception ...

If you feel that you are being 'taken' ...you are .... You are on a WOVO - Write one, visit one trip and a good lass - that is into you will protect your ass and see you aren't being ripped off.

If everything is being arranged by AD - you are just a gravy train.

IF you get lots of hints to constantly buy stuff to show your 'affection' - RUN....  WE know folks in Southern Ukraine and there is a possibility than can be contacted for an alternative perspective - if you are getting bad vibes.

Having said ALL that.... if you are now prepared for the 'worst' and can afford a lesson in how not to do it ... ( pay by letter sites ) you should pick up enough to be able to 'break free' - if the trip seems like you are being 'packaged' every day.

Everyone is interested in your trip, now - so few do what you are doing, nowadays.


Enjoy...




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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2017, 02:11:17 AM »
Inessa is 21 and I am 47 years old. But I look much younger than my age I am told.

Oh dear.....


That was my thought...

Ste, your situation is very atypical. Your SO is an "urban kid" and an intellectual.( Let aside that she really has height/body / facial features of a high fashion model.) And you looked like Jesus when she met you. I mean, c'mmon. Even in Russia during communism, 'twas an archetype. (And i'll bit my tongue that historical Yehoshua had no way of surviving middle-eastern sun with such skin complexion, let alone that he was black-eyed, black-haired and short.) I won't tell your SO, promise, i don't want to disappoint her after all these year  :-X

p.s. by atypical, i mean that most either marry with huge age gap - but then there's gap in background, education and all (we had , i think, even 30+ differences here, but it's not people who'd meet in their regular social circles;) OR it's lesser age gap and closer to one's own class, which most guys here wisely choose IMHO.
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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2017, 02:15:27 AM »
The woman I am speaking to assures me that everything is on the up and up these days as far as agencies, they even check the girls passports for verification.

RW_, welcome to RUA! I wish you the best and i am keeping my fingers crossed for you. That being said, please read as much as possible here on the forum, to avoid being disappointed, or worse - conned.
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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2017, 03:32:28 AM »
Inessa is 21 and I am 47 years old. But I look much younger than my age I am told.

Oh dear.....


That was my thought...

Ste, your situation is very atypical. Your SO is an "urban kid" and an intellectual.( Let aside that she really has height/body / facial features of a high fashion model.) And you looked like Jesus when she met you. I mean, c'mmon. Even in Russia during communism, 'twas an archetype. (And i'll bit my tongue that historical Yehoshua had no way of surviving middle-eastern sun with such skin complexion, let alone that he was black-eyed, black-haired and short.) I won't tell your SO, promise, i don't want to disappoint her after all these year  :-X

p.s. by atypical, i mean that most either marry with huge age gap - but then there's gap in background, education and all (we had , i think, even 30+ differences here, but it's not people who'd meet in their regular social circles; OR it's lesser age gap and closer to one's own class, which most guys here wisely choose IMHO.)

She was speaking with Germaine Greer at weekend at Bradford Literacy Festival...


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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2017, 03:40:34 AM »
The woman I am speaking to assures me that everything is on the up and up these days as far as agencies, they even check the girls passports for verification.

RW_, welcome to RUA! I wish you the best and i am keeping my fingers crossed for you. That being said, please read as much as possible here on the forum, to avoid being disappointed, or worse - conned.

RW = Real World,

There are enough threads and discussions to aid you on RUA, I would read some more.

That you have a ticket is admirable. There is a very recent thread from a poster called ' Justadude' regarding Odessa, I would give it a read. 
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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2017, 03:42:31 AM »
Welcome RW.

I think that by coming here, you've improved your chances of both success and fun. Not everyone needs to have their hand held along the way but you might need help when it comes to renting apartments, travel or visa's.

Just be open minded, don't fall in love with any strangers and stay realistic. People do meet their FSU wife's online but some get taken for a ride too. And don't get offended if you don't agree with what you read, just use it as an alternative point of view.

Good luck.

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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2017, 06:52:02 AM »
RW, Rosco is giving very solid advice below. It does not cost anything, unless you do refuse to understand. Ask questions and be aware you will read different answers. Av

Welcome RW.

I think that by coming here, you've improved your chances of both success and fun. Not everyone needs to have their hand held along the way but you might need help when it comes to renting apartments, travel or visa's.

Just be open minded, don't fall in love with any strangers and stay realistic. People do meet their FSU wife's online but some get taken for a ride too. And don't get offended if you don't agree with what you read, just use it as an alternative point of view.

Good luck.
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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2017, 07:56:12 AM »
Inessa is 21 and I am 47 years old. But I look much younger than my age I am told.

Where to start...?!!!

Are you a multi-millionaire? Are you a Billionaire?

Do you normally date smoking hot 21 year old girls in the USA?

There was a case of a young Ukrainian beauty queen from Odessa who married a Billionaire from Vegas many years her senior. They are still married last I heard and have at least one child.

You can be sure nearly every young girl who is on a "pay per letter" site in Odessa has heard this factual story. Furthermore there are plenty of millionaires and even billionaires in Ukraine who speak her language and understand her culture.

You look much younger than your age? No need for you to run into "scammers" when you're willing to do it all by yourself. Not to say you cannot have a good time and learn a few things on your trip.

Change your target age range to 27 years old and above and your chances for a bit of success go way up. And have at least 2 or 3 targets. Letters are fantasy. Only in a real meeting and subsequent meetings could you determine reality.

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Re: Hello Everyone
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2017, 08:25:16 AM »
Odessa seems to be a very active vibrant city with much to see and do. I will take advantage of that while visiting.

In Soviet Russia vibrant cities take advantage of you...

When I was 21 moving to another country was the last thing on my mind. Writing eloquent letters in English was also out of question. Everyone is different I s'ppose.

Welcome to the forum and be careful. Extra careful.  :8)