Syrian Gas Attack: False Flag operation or Real?

[Contrarian]

In regards to whether or not this was a false flag operation, the US states that they observed jets taking off from that air base on radar and going to the site of where the chemical weapons were dispersed and then going back to that base, apparently twice. Shortly after news came of the effects of chemical weapons on civilians in that area.

On Tuesday, US military radar systems monitored a Syrian Air Force fixed-wing aircraft take off from Shayrat and fly over Khan Sheikhoun on two occasions - at 06:37 local time (03:37 GMT) and 06:46.
US military officials told NBC News that the radar systems picked up flashes on the ground, indicating that ordnance had been dropped on the rebel-held town.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39531045

[Contrarian]

This is a very interesting article. This guy calls the missile strike on Shayrat a sham.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/9089/americas-tomahawk-missile-attack-on-syrias-shayrat-air-base-was-a-sham

[andrewfi]

From the department of things that would be funny if not so sad: news that radar can track planes flying and dropping munitions. Confirmation that the Syrian air force did what we already know. They carried out a bombing mission against a terrorist weapons facility.

[Contrarian]

From the department of things that would be funny if not so sad: news that radar can track planes flying and dropping munitions. Confirmation that the Syrian air force did what we already know. They carried out a bombing mission against a terrorist weapons facility.

You may already know what you think you know but some casual readers of the thread may wish to decide for themselves. Consequently I post a variety of links and thoughts, some which contradict the others.

[Contrarian]

Tyler Rogoway is the editor at Time Inc's The War Zone. This is his updated article on the missile strike on Shayrat airbase.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/9060/us-launched-tomahawk-missile-attack-on-shayrat-air-base-in-syria

[Manny]

Here is an interesting article from the Mail that they have mysteriously deleted............

http://web.archive.org/web/20130129213824/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270219/U-S-planned-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html

[Contrarian]

Here is an interesting article from the Mail that they have mysteriously deleted............

http://web.archive.org/web/20130129213824/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270219/U-S-planned-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html

Except that Obama did not use his red line when it was crossed...

(what the article claims was in the works is possible, but was it carried out? not using his red line makes me think no)

[Contrarian]

What will Russia's response to the missile strike be? From a Russian source in English.


http://rbth.com/defence/2017/04/07/how-will-russia-respond-to-the-us-missile-strike-on-syrias-airbase_737622

[Tom Cat]

Liberal media

MSNBC host’s conspiracy theory: What if Putin planned the Syrian chemical attack to help Trump?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/08/msnbc-hosts-conspiracy-theory-what-if-putin-planned-the-syrian-chemical-attack-to-help-trump/?utm_term=.e5336dae3041

[Contrarian]

Liberal media

MSNBC host’s conspiracy theory: What if Putin planned the Syrian chemical attack to help Trump?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/08/msnbc-hosts-conspiracy-theory-what-if-putin-planned-the-syrian-chemical-attack-to-help-trump/?utm_term=.e5336dae3041

 

[Tom Cat]

Reuters: Russia, Iran Joint Command Center Will 'Respond With Force' If US Strikes Syria Again

http://russia-insider.com/en/breaking-russia-and-iran-say-they-will-respond-force-if-us-strikes-syria-again/ri19518

Trump's National Security Advisor Planning 'Full-Scale War' in Syria

http://russia-insider.com/en/breaking-trumps-national-security-adviser-wants-full-scale-war-syria/ri19516

Report: US Boots on the Ground in Syria by June

http://russia-insider.com/en/report-us-plans-send-troops-syria-enforce-safe-zones/ri19514

[Contrarian]

"It's Trump. He's going to bomb one of your airbases. What time is convenient?

[Tom Cat]

As a rule, RT, and Ruptly,do a better job. If the damage caused by a stray missile amounts to a couple broken windows and a small hole in open ground, it's not a story worth telling.


Ruptly films Syrian village hit in US missile strike on Syrian airfield (VIDEO)

https://www.rt.com/news/384144-syria-village-tomahawks-strike-aftermath/

[Contrarian]

Liberal leaders who are warmongers want to fire Tulsi Gabbard of Hawii because she is against another middle east war.

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/851133109265457152


http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/09/politics/democratic-leaders-gabbard-syria/index.html   

[Tom Cat]

Anonymous scorce,

Breaking News fromNewsmax.com 

The United States has concluded Russia knew in advance of Syria's chemical weapons attack last week, a senior U.S. official said Monday.The official said a drone operated by Russians was flying over a hospital as victims of the attack were rushing to get treatment. Hours after the drone left, a Russian-made fighter jet bombed the hospital in what American officials believe was an attempt to cover up the usage of chemical weapons.
The official said the presence of the surveillance drone over the hospital couldn't have been a coincidence, and that Russia must have known the chemical weapons attack was coming and that victims were seeking treatment.The official, who wasn't authorized to speak publicly on intelligence matters and demanded anonymity, didn't give precise timing for when the drone was above the town of Khan Sheikhtoun, where more than 80 people were killed. He also didn't provide all the details for the military and intelligence information that form the basis of what he said the Pentagon has now concluded.The allegation is grave, even by the standards of the currently dismal U.S.-Russian relations.Although Russia has steadfastly supported Syrian President Bashar Assad's government, and they've coordinated military attacks together, Washington has never previously accused Moscow of complicity in any attack that involved the gassing of innocent civilians, including children.

[Contrarian]

Anonymous scorce,

Breaking News fromNewsmax.com

The United States has concluded Russia knew in advance of Syria's chemical weapons attack last week, a senior U.S. official said Monday.The official said a drone operated by Russians was flying over a hospital as victims of the attack were rushing to get treatment. Hours after the drone left, a Russian-made fighter jet bombed the hospital in what American officials believe was an attempt to cover up the usage of chemical weapons.
The official said the presence of the surveillance drone over the hospital couldn't have been a coincidence, and that Russia must have known the chemical weapons attack was coming and that victims were seeking treatment.The official, who wasn't authorized to speak publicly on intelligence matters and demanded anonymity, didn't give precise timing for when the drone was above the town of Khan Sheikhtoun, where more than 80 people were killed. He also didn't provide all the details for the military and intelligence information that form the basis of what he said the Pentagon has now concluded.The allegation is grave, even by the standards of the currently dismal U.S.-Russian relations.Although Russia has steadfastly supported Syrian President Bashar Assad's government, and they've coordinated military attacks together, Washington has never previously accused Moscow of complicity in any attack that involved the gassing of innocent civilians, including children.

Clearly if this is true and there's irrefutable evidence of it dark days are coming.

[Markje]

Anonymous scorce,

Breaking News fromNewsmax.com

The United States has concluded Russia knew in advance of Syria's chemical weapons attack last week, a senior U.S. official said Monday.The official said a drone operated by Russians was flying over a hospital as victims of the attack were rushing to get treatment. Hours after the drone left, a Russian-made fighter jet bombed the hospital in what American officials believe was an attempt to cover up the usage of chemical weapons.
The official said the presence of the surveillance drone over the hospital couldn't have been a coincidence, and that Russia must have known the chemical weapons attack was coming and that victims were seeking treatment.The official, who wasn't authorized to speak publicly on intelligence matters and demanded anonymity, didn't give precise timing for when the drone was above the town of Khan Sheikhtoun, where more than 80 people were killed. He also didn't provide all the details for the military and intelligence information that form the basis of what he said the Pentagon has now concluded.The allegation is grave, even by the standards of the currently dismal U.S.-Russian relations.Although Russia has steadfastly supported Syrian President Bashar Assad's government, and they've coordinated military attacks together, Washington has never previously accused Moscow of complicity in any attack that involved the gassing of innocent civilians, including children.

If I am searching for " Khan Sheikhtoun bomb hospital" , I find at least 20 headlines first-page of google with nearly exactly the same content. as above. Fishy, fishy.
Some sources even omit the "US Official" and made it "Official" ... which is even more grave, if you're just reading headlines you might be convinced there is solid evidence now.

Twisting the truth here, after many people didn't believe in the validity of the gas-attack in the first place? In Netherlands people were not impressed with the proof that assad did it. Looks like the public is catching on.

There aren't any unrelated sources to this anonymous source even, that a hospital was bombed there by an airstrike.

Anyone care to help me find any?

[rosco]

Anonymous scorce,
The official, who wasn't authorized to speak publicly on intelligence matters and demanded anonymity, didn't give precise timing for when the drone was above the town of Khan Sheikhtoun, where more than 80 people were killed. He also didn't provide all the details for the military and intelligence information that form the basis of what he said the Pentagon has now concluded.

Having read the above, forgive me for being a sceptic. Anyone can make bold claims without providing evidence but unless it's in the press, we'd get the piss taken out of us for time wasting & telling lies.

[Contrarian]

Alternative media viewpoint about Syrian gas attack.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/struggling-to-prove-assad-did-chemical-attack-colonial-media-resorts-to-character-assassination/

Journalist Vanessa Beeley, who has visited Syria many times through the duration of this terrible war for investigative journalism work, has written endlessly that exposes the White Helmets and their affiliations to Al-Qaeda in many articles that can be seen here. And like amateurs, videos of Al-Qaeda executing people and the White Helmets dealing with the bodies have been released, as well as many photographs of the White Helmets celebrating with Al-Qaeda side-by-side, or members of the White Helmets fighting with Al-Qaeda themselves. These are the people that the colonial media are relying on for information and condemning the Syrian government for supposedly targeting their own civilians, for no reason whatsoever.

[Tom Cat]

BREAKING: Putin Says Russia Has Information About Another False Flag Being Planned in Syria

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/breaking-putin-says-russia-has-information-about-another-false-flag-being-planned-syria

[Jerash]

Here is an interesting article from the Mail that they have mysteriously deleted............

http://web.archive.org/web/20130129213824/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270219/U-S-planned-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html

I guess this is why the article has been deleted:

Daily Mail in £100,000-plus payout over Syrian chemical weapons story
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/jun/26/daily-mail-syrian-chemical-weapons-libel

Martin Wood, for Associated Newspapers, said in a statement before the judge, Mrs Justice Nicola Davies: "My lady, on behalf of the defendant, I confirm that the defendant offers its sincere apologies to the claimants for the damage and distress caused by the publication of these false allegations, which had appeared on US websites.

"The defendant acknowledges that the emails in question were completely fabricated and that there is no question of any of the claimants being involved – or even considering becoming involved – in the heinous actions to which the article referred. The defendant is pleased to set the record straight."


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[Tom Cat]

Over the last few months the media has all to often used antimony for sources. The majority of the questionable articles could be branded fake news.
What I find irritating is opinions can be formed by false facts. Common sense says Russia and Assad gained nothing from a chemical attack.

[2tallbill]

White House Accuses Russia of Cover-Up in Syria Chemical Attack
New York Times By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS

read about it here
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/11/world/middleeast/russia-syria-chemical-weapons-white-house.html?_r=0

[2tallbill]

Declassified U.S. Report on Chemical Weapons Attack
The White House released a declassified four-page report that details United States intelligence on the chemical weapons attack, asserting that the Syrian and Russian governments have sought to confuse the world community about the assault through disinformation and “false narratives.”

read all about it here
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/11/world/middleeast/document-Syria-Chemical-Weapons-Report-White-House.html

[Markje]

Declassified U.S. Report on Chemical Weapons Attack
The White House released a declassified four-page report that details United States intelligence on the chemical weapons attack, asserting that the Syrian and Russian governments have sought to confuse the world community about the assault through disinformation and “false narratives.”

read all about it here
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/04/11/world/middleeast/document-Syria-Chemical-Weapons-Report-White-House.html

I think its exactly the other way around. Russia speaks the truth whereas America lies their asses off.

Weapons of mass destruction/Irak anyone?
Who shot kennedy again?
Vietnam?

There's so much lying there, I don't believe a word they say anymore.