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Did I really hear English in a Russian Melodrama?
« on: January 09, 2017, 10:09:57 PM »
Ok. I like to practice Russian by watching Movies and TV shows. The best source I have found for my tastes has been StarMediaEn channels on YouTube.

While watching the TV series "The Dawns Here Are Quiet," I thought I heard "I [am] sorry about that."

Before my question, I enjoyed the movie first. But, I really liked the TV version a little better. Especially the ending. I cannot comment on every second of either format - I skip a lot.

I listened again a couple of times. Then switched to my Mac, and I think that is what I heard. Unless it was a Russian phrase and I just didn't catch it.

Does anyone else hear "I [am] sorry about that."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKlVB10QBjw at about 40:15 to 40:20.

The assistant squad leader just reported to the squad leader that replacements have arrived.

Let me know if I am hearing things.

Wayne

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Re: Did I really hear English in a Russian Melodrama?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2017, 01:16:23 AM »
English has been becoming more and more prevalent in Russian life. Just as many English words are taken from other languages, Russian is no different. And if you spend more time in Russia, you'll hear English sprinkled in hear and there during a conversation between Russians. Also, if there is no direct translation for an English word, they just use the English word.

I haven't taken a look at the video, but wouldn't be surprised at all if English is what you heard. I'm guessing you know the easy translation of "I'm sorry about that" in Russia, so I'll spare the translation for you.
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Re: Did I really hear English in a Russian Melodrama?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2017, 01:59:17 AM »
Wayne,

Here's just a simple example of what I was taking about in another thread about using Facebook to help you with the language. 4 women (1 my friend) talking about children from a post on my FB account. Copy and paste to Google and you get an idea of how the language works from natives. What I do (and did while learning the basics) is start working with phrases I can/could handle easily with my g/f to see what works and when/how she corrects me.

And because Goggle will mostly do a direct translation, you can start to understand Russian structure better by reversing the directly translated English to a Russian structure and see the mentality behind the phrase and how they decribe things differently to English speakers.

e.g. мы с ним/we with him (just an example, not from the conversation) is actually 2 people in Russian, where in English would connote 3 (if you get my drift).


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Re: Did I really hear English in a Russian Melodrama?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2017, 02:29:23 AM »
Wayne,

Here's just a simple example of what I was taking about in another thread about using Facebook to help you with the language. 4 women (1 my friend) talking about children from a post on my FB account. Copy and paste to Google and you get an idea of how the language works from natives. What I do (and did while learning the basics) is start working with phrases I can/could handle easily with my g/f to see what works and when/how she corrects me.

And because Goggle will mostly do a direct ranslation, you can start to understand Russian structure better by reversing the directly translated English to a Russian structure and see the mentality behind the phrase and how they decribe things differently to English speakers.

e.g. мы с ним/we with him (just an example, not from the conversation) is actually 2 people in Russian, where in English would connote 3 (if you get my drift).


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I used to say 'I'm not coming' and she'd say 'I know!'
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Re: Did I really hear English in a Russian Melodrama?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2017, 01:04:18 PM »
English has been becoming more and more prevalent in Russian life. Just as many English words are taken from other languages, Russian is no different. And if you spend more time in Russia, you'll hear English sprinkled in hear and there during a conversation between Russians. Also, if there is no direct translation for an English word, they just use the English word.

I haven't taken a look at the video, but wouldn't be surprised at all if English is what you heard. I'm guessing you know the easy translation of "I'm sorry about that" in Russia, so I'll spare the translation for you.

This was background noise. In a WW2 movie. And it sounded like one of the people watching or producing the movie said it. It was not part of the script.

There are a couple ways to say I am sorry, usually I take the rougher way of saying, "Izvenitzhe."

Thanks - it is a great movie to watch with your g/f.

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Re: Did I really hear English in a Russian Melodrama?
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2017, 01:08:50 PM »
Wayne,

Here's just a simple example of what I was taking about in another thread about using Facebook to help you with the language. 4 women (1 my friend) talking about children from a post on my FB account. Copy and paste to Google and you get an idea of how the language works from natives. What I do (and did while learning the basics) is start working with phrases I can/could handle easily with my g/f to see what works and when/how she corrects me.

And because Goggle will mostly do a direct ranslation, you can start to understand Russian structure better by reversing the directly translated English to a Russian structure and see the mentality behind the phrase and how they decribe things differently to English speakers.

e.g. мы с ним/we with him (just an example, not from the conversation) is actually 2 people in Russian, where in English would connote 3 (if you get my drift).


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Nadezda  Babkina
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Mine used to say 'We are meeting Olga in town' when she meant 'I am meeting Olga in town'.....

I used to say 'I'm not coming' and she'd say 'I know!'

Whew!

Now you are making my head spin. 

I get some of it, and then I read Ste and think, "WAIT!!! Is this Russian or English?"

Thanks

Wayne