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Offline Gipsy

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Re: Cuba Libre?
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2016, 12:42:54 PM »
Do good things done balance out the evil things done? Do they for ordinary people? If I do charitable things that help people could I get away with killing some of them?

Problem with being the president is most everything involving military actions leads to the death of innocents, "Collateral damage."  That is why my support for them is limited. I was raised to be a conscientious objector and was, but now older I realize it is not that simple.

It's a good question, in UK we blame Blair for the deaths of many in Iraq, and Thatcher for those in the Falklands, but none actually killed anyone, nor pressed any buttons, just signed bits of paper, hard to say where the ral cupablilty lies.

Who knows what we've done personally that have directly affected the lifes of others and killed people further down the chain? The Butterfly Effect.

Toughie but like I always say, no-one is innocent, none of us.
You're the only person I've known to blame Thatcher for deaths in the Falklands. Not that I should be surprised. It's probably something most Corbynistas have in common.

Never heard Mother of a Thousand Dead?
Nope, I don't move in those circles.

Good Lord.

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Re: Cuba Libre?
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2016, 01:14:41 PM »
^ Its possible that the above is all US propaganda, and the photos are photo shopped, in an attempt to brainwash people into believing the FC was a naughty person....

If you truly believe this then you need to meet some Cuban Americans.  They are honest and warm people.  Please go up and read again what the young woman wrote....

I read it, it was filled with US propaganda as one would expect..

The Cubans are honest and warm people, but I would bet that you have never set foot on the island.... :coffeeread:

It's absolutely not US propaganda.  I've met well over 20 Cubans personally, the stories are all the same.  Brother and sister and mother and father pitted against each other. gossipers rewarded, those who spoke out tortured and often murdered in cold blood.  Not US propaganda.  Are you now a lefty as well?   :biggrin:

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Re: Cuba Libre?
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2016, 01:18:59 PM »
^ Its possible that the above is all US propaganda, and the photos are photo shopped, in an attempt to brainwash people into believing the FC was a naughty person....

If you truly believe this then you need to meet some Cuban Americans.  They are honest and warm people.  Please go up and read again what the young woman wrote....

I read it, it was filled with US propaganda as one would expect..

The Cubans are honest and warm people, but I would bet that you have never set foot on the island.... :coffeeread:

It's absolutely not US propaganda.  I've met well over 20 Cubans personally, the stories are all the same.  Brother and sister and mother and father pitted against each other. gossipers rewarded, those who spoke out tortured and often murdered in cold blood.  Not US propaganda.  Are you now a lefty as well?   :biggrin:

I hear the same to be fair, only it's USA and Trump vs Clinton....
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Re: Cuba Libre?
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2016, 01:21:17 PM »
^ Its possible that the above is all US propaganda, and the photos are photo shopped, in an attempt to brainwash people into believing the FC was a naughty person....

If you truly believe this then you need to meet some Cuban Americans.  They are honest and warm people.  Please go up and read again what the young woman wrote....

I read it, it was filled with US propaganda as one would expect..

The Cubans are honest and warm people, but I would bet that you have never set foot on the island.... :coffeeread:

It's absolutely not US propaganda.  I've met well over 20 Cubans personally, the stories are all the same.  Brother and sister and mother and father pitted against each other. gossipers rewarded, those who spoke out tortured and often murdered in cold blood.  Not US propaganda.  Are you now a lefty as well?   :biggrin:

Only 50% of me is left, the other 50% is right..... :laugh:
The middle is of course the middle.... :ROFL:
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Re: Cuba Libre?
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2016, 01:23:08 PM »
^ Its possible that the above is all US propaganda, and the photos are photo shopped, in an attempt to brainwash people into believing the FC was a naughty person....

If you truly believe this then you need to meet some Cuban Americans.  They are honest and warm people.  Please go up and read again what the young woman wrote....

I read it, it was filled with US propaganda as one would expect..

The Cubans are honest and warm people, but I would bet that you have never set foot on the island.... :coffeeread:

It's absolutely not US propaganda.  I've met well over 20 Cubans personally, the stories are all the same.  Brother and sister and mother and father pitted against each other. gossipers rewarded, those who spoke out tortured and often murdered in cold blood.  Not US propaganda.  Are you now a lefty as well?   :biggrin:

Only 50% of me is left, the other 50% is right..... :laugh:
The middle is of course the middle.... :ROFL:

the middle finger?   :laugh:

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Re: Cuba Libre?
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2016, 01:25:15 PM »
^ Its possible that the above is all US propaganda, and the photos are photo shopped, in an attempt to brainwash people into believing the FC was a naughty person....

If you truly believe this then you need to meet some Cuban Americans.  They are honest and warm people.  Please go up and read again what the young woman wrote....

I read it, it was filled with US propaganda as one would expect..

The Cubans are honest and warm people, but I would bet that you have never set foot on the island.... :coffeeread:

It's absolutely not US propaganda.  I've met well over 20 Cubans personally, the stories are all the same.  Brother and sister and mother and father pitted against each other. gossipers rewarded, those who spoke out tortured and often murdered in cold blood.  Not US propaganda.  Are you now a lefty as well?   :biggrin:

I hear the same to be fair, only it's USA and Trump vs Clinton....

Sorry but I do not get your meaning.  You hear from Cubans it was awful, or?  I do not understand what Trump vs. Clinton has to do with a discussion of Cuba.

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« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2016, 01:28:40 PM »
WA Post on Trump and Cuba.  anything by "main street" media is now suspect for me.  I verify through twitter and official interviews of Trump, Pence, Kellyanne Conway and others on Fox TV.  I don't need the media interpreting for me, I prefer to do this myself.

Trump quote on Cuba.

More important, he turned his nation into a maximum-security prison. His regime controls every aspect of human life - access to food, medical assistance, schools and employment. Castro has not mellowed with age. Terror continues to reign. The secret police are unrestrained. The disappearance and beatings of citizens are still tools of civilian control, as is the suppression of free speech. Castro's ruthless domination of the Cuban people has not lessened even as his regime crumbles."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/26/here-is-donald-trumps-reaction-to-fidel-castros-death/

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Re: Cuba Libre?
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2016, 01:36:35 PM »
^ Its possible that the above is all US propaganda, and the photos are photo shopped, in an attempt to brainwash people into believing the FC was a naughty person....

If you truly believe this then you need to meet some Cuban Americans.  They are honest and warm people.  Please go up and read again what the young woman wrote....

I read it, it was filled with US propaganda as one would expect..

The Cubans are honest and warm people, but I would bet that you have never set foot on the island.... :coffeeread:

It's absolutely not US propaganda.  I've met well over 20 Cubans personally, the stories are all the same.  Brother and sister and mother and father pitted against each other. gossipers rewarded, those who spoke out tortured and often murdered in cold blood.  Not US propaganda.  Are you now a lefty as well?   :biggrin:

I hear the same to be fair, only it's USA and Trump vs Clinton....

Sorry but I do not get your meaning.  You hear from Cubans it was awful, or?  I do not understand what Trump vs. Clinton has to do with a discussion of Cuba.

Maybe if ended the paragraph with NOT!! you'd find it satirical?

Think about this, why to so many who lived under the USSR miss it? Was it great? No it wasn't to us, but just have a think and consider what they did have and why they might think that was preferable to them as to how the FSU is now.

You can extend that to Cuba. Does everyone hate it there? All of them?

Think about the type of person that gets out and tells their tale. Are they the norm?

Please have a thought, even the ape creatures of the Indus can do that, don't repeat others' beefs, read, study and form an opinion of your own.



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Re: Cuba Libre?
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2016, 01:56:19 PM »
^ I clearly have my own thoughts and opinions.  Look friend, when you hurl insults and monkey poo; no need to go farther.  Your socialist Utopia only exists in your mind. 

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« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2016, 02:00:47 PM »


Please have a thought, even the ape creatures of the Indus can do that, don't repeat others' beefs, read, study and form an opinion of your own.

no doubt Marxist Socialists with that particular brain disease never repeat the same old worn out FAILED propaganda.   :popcorn: :dh:

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Re: Cuba Libre?
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2016, 09:24:54 PM »
Learn the history of the original sources!


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