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Comparing the legal systems
« on: August 21, 2016, 03:55:01 AM »
There is an interesting article on msn regarding Mel Gibson's divorce to a Russian pianist. 

Apparently he offered her 15 million which she did not take.  Instead she is living in his home in Malibu and was receiving 20k per month in child support which was increased now to 30k. 

She accused him of domestic abuse. 

I would like to know, legally how divorces differ in the US vs the UK, the EU and Russia. 

Specifically where do guys get cleaned out the most and where are there more false domestic abuse cases? 

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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2016, 07:53:59 AM »
Someone here said that men do not get cleaned out as much, after a divorce in the UK compared to the US.  However a real side by side comparison was never done.   

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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2016, 04:44:12 PM »
Basically, if you have kids ..the guy in England and Wales will be paying maintenance for the kids until they finish full-time education and the marital home will be hers - with the guy retaining 40 percent - until the youngest has finished full-time education - OR ... wifey re-marries.

I had to look at this as a enforced savings policy

Spousal maintenance and pension rights is more complicated.   


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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2016, 05:07:31 PM »
It's not always the case if your clever. I have a friend who's family is very wealthy they have a business which has been in the family over 100 years. He was married for a few years after which she went off with some other guy.

In court as he told the Judge "All I own is a Salt and Pepper pot"  :laugh: Thats exactly what he said, she could not prove or find anything he owned all was tied up in trusts and such. She left with nothing and two years later he took custody of both the kids!!

Only stupid men get screwed over.

Lifes a bitch make sure you don't marry one..

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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2016, 05:57:49 PM »
Basically, if you have kids ..the guy in England and Wales will be paying maintenance for the kids until they finish full-time education and the marital home will be hers - with the guy retaining 40 percent - until the youngest has finished full-time education - OR ... wifey re-marries.

I had to look at this as a enforced savings policy

Spousal maintenance and pension rights is more complicated.

You obviously had a bad lawyer... 

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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2016, 05:58:34 PM »
It's not always the case if your clever. I have a friend who's family is very wealthy they have a business which has been in the family over 100 years. He was married for a few years after which she went off with some other guy.

In court as he told the Judge "All I own is a Salt and Pepper pot"  :laugh: Thats exactly what he said, she could not prove or find anything he owned all was tied up in trusts and such. She left with nothing and two years later he took custody of both the kids!!

Only stupid men get screwed over.

Lifes a bitch make sure you don't marry one..

Stupid men with bad lawyers.... ;D

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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2016, 05:59:39 PM »
Someone here said that men do not get cleaned out as much, after a divorce in the UK compared to the US.  However a real side by side comparison was never done.

I would think that comparisons have been made by someone...

Try google....

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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2016, 07:03:58 PM »
Anecdotal evidence suggests men do tend to get cleaned out more in the US, but from what I gather, it depends on the state.

I doubt I would want to be divorced in Ohio from a tale I recently heard from someone here (who may or may not wish to pass an opinion - he will know who he is).
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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2016, 07:20:45 PM »
Is that the reason so many US guys after getting cleaned out feel they need to fly all the way over to Eastern Europe to find a women with family values and who isn't interested in material things. Of course other than the marigolds and a dish cloth. ;D

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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2016, 07:58:44 PM »
Is that the reason so many US guys after getting cleaned out feel they need to fly all the way over to Eastern Europe to find a women with family values and who isn't interested in material things. Of course other than the marigolds and a dish cloth. ;D

I am sure that this is a large, but erroneous, part of the reasoning for many of 'em.
Can't help but think it's a mistake.
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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2016, 08:48:37 PM »
Its like a unicorn. Everyone wants the mythical wife from Eastern Europe, who has family values and material needs (because in Russia most cannot afford a TV or have never heard of a smart phone) And its even more of a bonus if she can keep quiet and not answer her master back. Better still have no opinion other than fairy liquid being better than the supermarkets own brand.

I guess its a little like myself every time I see a rainbow and go out with my wellies and spade digging for the mythical pot of gold.. :laugh:  been doing that for seven years now.


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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2016, 12:34:47 AM »
Anecdotal evidence suggests men do tend to get cleaned out more in the US, but from what I gather, it depends on the state.

I doubt I would want to be divorced in Ohio from a tale I recently heard from someone here (who may or may not wish to pass an opinion - he will know who he is).

It depends on the state, how long they were married and if there were kids. It also depends a lot on the relative assets and earning power of the individuals involved.

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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2016, 02:30:43 AM »
Its like a unicorn. Everyone wants the mythical wife from Eastern Europe, who has family values and material needs (because in Russia most cannot afford a TV or have never heard of a smart phone) And its even more of a bonus if she can keep quiet and not answer her master back. Better still have no opinion other than fairy liquid being better than the supermarkets own brand.

I guess its a little like myself every time I see a rainbow and go out with my wellies and spade digging for the mythical pot of gold.. :laugh:  been doing that for seven years now.

I went visiting with my relatives out of town and we went to a home of a friend whose son had recently married an Asian lady.  When we greeted the family, the lady was very reserved, never spoke, and seemed to wait "hand and feet" with her husband.  So, there are demure and quiet type of women.  Usually, they are from small villages where lifestyle is very low class and where farming is the predominant occupation.  They have very little chance of getting an advanced education or travelling beyond their birthplace.   :bow:

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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2016, 02:38:56 AM »
There is an interesting article on msn regarding Mel Gibson's divorce to a Russian pianist. 

Apparently he offered her 15 million which she did not take.  Instead she is living in his home in Malibu and was receiving 20k per month in child support which was increased now to 30k. 

She accused him of domestic abuse. 

I would like to know, legally how divorces differ in the US vs the UK, the EU and Russia. 

Specifically where do guys get cleaned out the most and where are there more false domestic abuse cases?

Does this have any connection to the 2010 assault charges filed against him by his ex-girlfriend?

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"Then we went on towards the pool and he had been screaming and yelling and then he told us, you know, to get the 'f' out and went to get the gun," she said. "And I asked my son to get in the car and that's how we left the 6th of January and from then on every day he was apologizing."



http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/11/17/mel.gibson.dispute/
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Re: Comparing the legal systems
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2016, 08:55:12 AM »
Dcguyusa, wait until the concealed resentment is revealed,  at just about the same time she comes to understand her rights.
Just because something looks as it does does not mean it is as it looks.

There's been plenty of 'men'  here who found this out to their cost.

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