Second trip

[Jim Hall]

I just got back from my second trip to Ukraine. But the lady I saw last time and I are no longer together. I am thinking she was just a scammer and I was stupid and blind, but she showed some signs of sincerity, and I saw some lies, so I was never really sure. I guess what is to be expected on a PPL site... I had already made plans to see her and bought a non-refundable ticket, so I decided to go anyway, and if nothing else, see my friend in Kharkov. But in the meantime, I tried a different site and met a great lady. At first she almost didn't talk to me as in my profile, I put that I would be in Kharkov if anyone wanted to meet me. She immediately thought I was a sex tourist she said, but I guess I sparked enough interest for her to reply. We have only talked about a month, but I have been very honest with her about everything, so she decided to meet me. But she had just returned from the US, and a bad and short marriage, and was just getting back on her feet and starting a new job. But she took a Friday off for me, and we spent 3 days together.
I took the bus from Kharkov to Dnipro, where she met me at the bus station, and we had 3 great days together, although I stayed in my apartment and she stayed in hers. But I earned her trust in me by being considerate and respectful of her. By the end, I could see that she already loved me, I could see it in her eyes, and I was in love with her as well. We talk several times a day on Skype, and I plan on returning some time this year, when she will be able to take more time off of work. She brought several meals to my apartment, and was very caring. A vast difference from the one I met last year!!! She is about 9 years younger than me, but I was not looking for someone who was half my age, and I am perfectly fine with her age. I think she is very beautiful. We are both very honest with each other, and I think that helps things a lot. She said she was surprised that we didn't argue or have a disagreement even once while I was there. I am very glad we met, as she turned an almost wasted trip into a wonderful trip and blooming relationship. Hopefully I will have future happy stories to post in the coming months.

[Mila]

Hi Jim,

I am glad for you, I hope you will make it work. If you need any help or advise, you are very welcome!!! Good luck!

[MBS01]

Hi Jim:
We may have crossed paths without knowing it!  We were home visiting the family in late May and early June likely at the same time you too were in Dnepr.  This makes 14 years I have been visiting there myself and always enjoy being there.  However in the past couple of years the economy and life in general is much different then it was in the past with the ongoing conflict such a short distance away.  Then every couple of nights listening to the sirens of the returning wounded being taken to local hospitals for treatment.

You will find that a number of posters here are or have been married to ladies from Dnipr.  So you are in good company.  If you have any questions about this, or about the city etc. feel free to ask away.

Best regards.  Wes.

[Jim Hall]

Thanks Mila and Wes. Everything is going very well, and I plan on returning in the fall for a few weeks. I wish time would go faster.......

[SOUTHERN X]

good luck with it jim ,

Kharkov is a great city ,
dont you just love the bus trip south to dnipro 

SX

[MBS01]

Hi Southern X:
Noticed your posting here.  While in Dnepr. we met a lady and her young daughter who are planning to relocate and work down your way.  I think she said she is moving to Brisbane as an Engineer. 

[SOUTHERN X]

Hi Southern X:
Noticed your posting here.  .

yes im still hanging in there    this site has become hard to tolerate over the last 18 months though

While in Dnepr. we met a lady and her young daughter who are planning to relocate and work down your way.  I think she said she is moving to Brisbane as an Engineer. 

yes there are a lot of ukrainians and russians in australia , we constantly pick them out among the crowds of people in  everyday activitys
they all add to our migrant mix in a positve way

brisbane /queensland is a great place , beautifull  sub tropical climate , lovely beaches and great people , they will like it once they have settled in 

SX

[Jim Hall]

My third trip is coming up in not too long. I'm very happy and excited to be spending much more time with my wonderful lady!! Going to Lvov with her, then off to a hotel in the mountains. It is going to be an awesome trip!!!!!

[Omega1982]

What part of the US do you live in? 

[Chris]

My third trip is coming up in not too long. I'm very happy and excited to be spending much more time with my wonderful lady!! Going to Lvov with her, then off to a hotel in the mountains. It is going to be an awesome trip!!!!!

Where in the mountains, what hotel, I have written a few reports on here about different areas of the Carpathians and some of the hotels etc.

[Jim Hall]

We were here, and I am lucky I have found the most wonderful woman in the world!!!!

[Jim Hall]

Vezha Vedmezha

[Jim Hall]

I returned again to be with my most wonderful woman at the end of December Again we had a most wonderful time, and had 0 problems every time. It was great to be there for the holidays with the one I love, instead of being home by myself. And it was a special trip as well! We just stayed around Dnipro, and she got a ring for New Years. She loved it, although we had to get it resized, and now we are engaged♥♥♥. So now the K1 paperwork starts. I loved all the celebrations around the city, and we went to 3 different parks to see the trees and festivities. We ate out some, she cooked for me some, and made a most wonderful dinner of roast duck, caviar and salmon(although I tried caviar, I am not really a fish eater) for our new Years Eve dinner. She bought me some onyx cups, as I love stones, and we drank our champagne from them. Later we watched some of the fireworks from her apartment.  Another day,  we made vareniki together. She has given me several recipes, and I have cooked all of them at home. She is very happy and surprised I can cook all of them, although at first she was almost horrified I put beer in my okroshka as I had no kvass. But I thought it tasted very very good! I brought her 2 piroshkis I made on this last trip, but they got a bit smashed in my luggage. Too bad I don't remember how to attach photos, as I don't use this or any forum much. I went to meet her mother for the first time, and she cooked a huge Christmas meal for us, which was all very good. I booked the trip rather late, and with the holidays, had a difficult time finding an affordable flight, and had to get my tickets at the airports, which caused me to almost miss several flights! The good thing is that was more on the return, rather than the flights out, as I didn't want to miss New Year, and also I got my seat in first class on 3 of the flights I am going to try my hardest to return for the one year anniversary of when we first met online. Then it will be the wait on paperwork. I have to thank this forum for pointing me towards good websites, or I never would have met her. And I am also thankful for a lot of other information that was very helpful!!!!!
Jim H.

[msmoby]

Well done, Jim


Good luck !

BTW - if it ends in 'i' - it is already plural - no need for an 's' on Pirozhki ))))

[2tallbill]

I am going to try my hardest to return for the one year anniversary of when we first met online. Then it will be the wait on paperwork. I have to thank this forum for pointing me towards good websites, or I never would have met her. And I am also thankful for a lot of other information that was very helpful!!!!!
Jim H.

Congratulations JH,

I'm not sure of the online anniversary, but I would highly recommend getting
back to see your girl in the next 2-3 months. This is a very stressful time for
a girl and face time is is important.

My girl got scared many times during this process and there were plenty of
tears.

I highly recommend that you keep her busy. She has a ton of paperwork
that she needs to gather, translate and Authenticate (Apostille). You both should
join Visa Journey (Don't use your real names) and read until you can recite any
archaic visa law forward and backwards.

Does your girl have a diploma? there are organizations that can translate
and authenticate it. Does she need driving lessons? more English lessons?
I recommend that you keep her working on things like this.

I also recommend that no flower, bird, bee, sunrise or sunset goes by that
you don't photograph and send to her. Do you have a full garage that needs
cleaned? or a home project that needs to be done? I would recommend that
you take photos and keep her abreast of your progress getting them done.

Seeing you get things ready for her will help reduce her stress.
She will still stress out, this is really f#cking scary, to leave her family,
language and culture in a blind leap of faith that things will be great with
you.

Some things to think of.

Do you have one of those hand held shower massage devices?
Do you have an electric tea kettle?
Is there a Russian market near by?

Take some photos of you or a plumber installing a shower massage in your
house and a Russian market will let her know that you are thinking about her
and your future together.



When you go see her (MAKE it happen) carry an empty suitcase for her to
send some things back with you.

This is an exciting time. She will get scared. 

Have fun, I wish you continued success!

[andrewfi]

Do you have one of those hand held shower massage devices?

Are those not better suited for couples where the man has a problem?

[Jim Hall]

Thank you Popka! Luckily it will not be quite as stressful, as she had come to this country before to marry, but he was a loser, and she returned before 3 months. So she has all her old paperwork, and knows what is expected as far as forms, interview, exam. She knows my job is difficult to get time off from whenever I want. We write every day, and see each other on Skype almost every day. Her ex in Ukraine is trying to cause problems, and I am helping with that as well. I send her photos of many things every day in an email I write for her to read when she first wakes up, and she sends me one before I wake up. She will need to learn to drive, but I told her I will help with that. She knows English, but could learn more, and I can help  with that as well, and I hope to learn Russian and Ukrainian from her. I already have the shower, and I have discussed changes to the house, and that I want to wait for her before I change anything as I want her input, as it will be her house also. I mentioned I need new carpet, and she said she likes wood floors better, so we will need to compromise on some things I think. But I know all will be well I see there is a Ukrainian market in the city, and probably other Russian markets, although she strongly dislikes anything with Russia in the name due to the Crimean conflict, and having lost some friends because of it. She is extremely biased and thinks all Russians are bad, although I know they are not. All people are different. I have hired an lawyer to work on our visa, so that also helps. Hopefully all will go very smoothly!

[Jim Hall]

I think he means because of the ability of a woman to wash below much easier, than anything.

Do you have one of those hand held shower massage devices?

Are those not better suited for couples where the man has a problem?

[2tallbill]

Are those not better suited for couples where the man has a problem?

Maybe,    I wouldn't know  . My wife is hot enough to be
a form of Viagra. I know that many FSUW like to wash every
crack and crevice thoroughly before sexy-time.

[Manny]

The conversation about sexual prowess and related matters can now be found here.

This topic related to Jim's trip.

[MBS01]

Still remember our first Christmas. New Year and Christmas together in Ukraine following our marriage in September of that year.  On landing in Kiev back then 99% of the Aerosvit passengers were on route to India.  It felt strange having no one else exiting the arrivals area and going downstairs to exit the terminal all by myself.

Now we are able to fly directly into Dnepr. with Austrian Airlines twice weekly in less than 24 hours.  Really wonderful not having to get from Kiev to Dnepr. instead.  There are daily flights between Vienna and Dnepr., but the best with fewest connections are the twice weekly ones noted.

Wonderful to hear all is going ahead for both of you at this time and wishing you a great life together in the future as well.

[Jim Hall]

Thanks Wes! Sorry I am so late to reply. I haven't been on, too busy with her and with work.Everything was great, and she is an amazing woman! We are both very happy together, and just hope the Visa will not take too long. I am hearing at least December now before we hear back. It's difficult for both of us to be apart for such long periods of time.