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NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« on: May 10, 2016, 09:17:45 AM »
The truth comes out, Iran was not the intended threat.

NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield

http://russia-insider.com/en/nato-targets-russia-planned-missile-defense-expansion/ri14264
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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2016, 09:21:30 AM »
The truth comes out, Iran was not the intended threat.

NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield

http://russia-insider.com/en/nato-targets-russia-planned-missile-defense-expansion/ri14264

If Trump wins look for that Iran deal to be torn up on day 1.  In regards to a missile defense shield in Poland it is strictly a deterrent against Russian aggression.
Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.

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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2016, 09:43:52 AM »
The truth comes out, Iran was not the intended threat.

NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield

http://russia-insider.com/en/nato-targets-russia-planned-missile-defense-expansion/ri14264

If Trump wins look for that Iran deal to be torn up on day 1.  In regards to a missile defense shield in Poland it is strictly a deterrent against Russian aggression.

The Poles will sell their asses to anyone!


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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2016, 11:37:12 AM »
Steveboy..the 'clue' is the word SHIELD



How does one 'target' with a defensive system ?

 

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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2016, 06:10:13 PM »
The truth comes out, Iran was not the intended threat.

NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield

http://russia-insider.com/en/nato-targets-russia-planned-missile-defense-expansion/ri14264

If Trump wins look for that Iran deal to be torn up on day 1.  In regards to a missile defense shield in Poland it is strictly a deterrent against Russian aggression.

The Poles will sell their asses to anyone!

The Poles have a very bad history with Russia.  Do you blame them for wanting to protect themselves?
Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.

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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2016, 05:33:32 AM »
The truth comes out, Iran was not the intended threat.

NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield

http://russia-insider.com/en/nato-targets-russia-planned-missile-defense-expansion/ri14264

If Trump wins look for that Iran deal to be torn up on day 1.  In regards to a missile defense shield in Poland it is strictly a deterrent against Russian aggression.

The Poles will sell their asses to anyone!

The Poles have a very bad history with Russia.  Do you blame them for wanting to protect themselves?

From what?

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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2016, 05:41:39 AM »
The truth comes out, Iran was not the intended threat.

NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield

http://russia-insider.com/en/nato-targets-russia-planned-missile-defense-expansion/ri14264

If Trump wins look for that Iran deal to be torn up on day 1.  In regards to a missile defense shield in Poland it is strictly a deterrent against Russian aggression.

The Poles will sell their asses to anyone!

The Poles have a very bad history with Russia.  Do you blame them for wanting to protect themselves?

A bad history with Russia?? :laugh: What about the Germans?? Oh they were very friendly!!! Just gassed half the population, and now the poles are so far up the Germans asses its unreal!

Hypocrisy and double standards as usual in todays world..



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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2016, 06:11:49 AM »
History tells us that making a target of oneself is rarely a sensible defence policy.

Poland has experience of making this mistake in the past. They became a target for German aggression when they foolishly refused to act against Germany as requested by the other major European powers. Instead they chose to provoke Germany and rely upon the treaty they had with the UK and France.

This seems to be a replay, using the supposed 'strength' of others in hope of attaining Polish goals without effort.

Now, if missiles are installed in Poland the Russian army will have no other choice than to target those installations and their logistical support. That is not a win for Poland.

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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2016, 08:48:01 AM »
History tells us that making a target of oneself is rarely a sensible defence policy.

Poland has experience of making this mistake in the past. They became a target for German aggression when they foolishly refused to act against Germany as requested by the other major European powers. Instead they chose to provoke Germany and rely upon the treaty they had with the UK and France.

This seems to be a replay, using the supposed 'strength' of others in hope of attaining Polish goals without effort.

Now, if missiles are installed in Poland the Russian army will have no other choice than to target those installations and their logistical support. That is not a win for Poland.

If Russia were foolish enough to do more than a theoretical target of Poland then NATO would respond with actions against Crimea and Kaliningrad.  Putin knows better.
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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2016, 09:03:15 AM »
This missile defense "shield"is just window dressing.  Obsolete technology. 

The new SARMAT ICBM's will go straight through it.   ;D

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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2016, 09:05:25 AM »
History tells us that making a target of oneself is rarely a sensible defence policy.

Poland has experience of making this mistake in the past. They became a target for German aggression when they foolishly refused to act against Germany as requested by the other major European powers. Instead they chose to provoke Germany and rely upon the treaty they had with the UK and France.

This seems to be a replay, using the supposed 'strength' of others in hope of attaining Polish goals without effort.

Now, if missiles are installed in Poland the Russian army will have no other choice than to target those installations and their logistical support. That is not a win for Poland.

If Russia were foolish enough to do more than a theoretical target of Poland then NATO would respond with actions against Crimea and Kaliningrad.  Putin knows better.

The absolute brilliance of a US military tactician knows no bounds..

Dream on sugarplum..

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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2016, 09:07:08 AM »
This missile defense "shield"is just window dressing.  Obsolete technology. 

The new SARMAT ICBM's will go straight through it.   ;D

A couple of the others that Russia has also...

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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2016, 09:13:29 AM »
Ant, you don't get it do you?
Russia has done nothing. Poland has made of itself a target. If the US starts some silliness then you won't need to worry about Konigsberg.

The point is that Poland is, once again, engaged in lazy regional politics that are unlikely to turn out well for them. You can be certain that Russia is most unlikely to be an initiator in the next world war but they are already doing their best to ensure the least bad outcome of such an event.

Making clear what escalation steps exist to people like you is a part of Russian defence. The folks at NATO already know the consequences of their actions. It is important that the civilian population is made aware, sadly that task falls to Russia.

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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2016, 09:31:03 AM »
Steveboy..the 'clue' is the word SHIELD



How does one 'target' with a defensive system ?


The planned missile for the "so called shield" is a SM-3 missile, it is a THAAD, however, the warhead of the missile can be easily changed converting it into an attack missile.

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Re: NATO Targets Russia With Poland-Based Missile Shield
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2016, 09:32:35 AM »
Ant, you don't get it do you?
Russia has done nothing. Poland has made of itself a target. If the US starts some silliness then you won't need to worry about Konigsberg.

The point is that Poland is, once again, engaged in lazy regional politics that are unlikely to turn out well for them. You can be certain that Russia is most unlikely to be an initiator in the next world war but they are already doing their best to ensure the least bad outcome of such an event.

Making clear what escalation steps exist to people like you is a part of Russian defence. The folks at NATO already know the consequences of their actions. It is important that the civilian population is made aware, sadly that task falls to Russia.

Russia has already deployed its latest Iskandar missiles in Kalingrad..