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USA -v- Europe.
« on: May 06, 2016, 11:33:26 AM »
(doesn't every normal guy dream of a superior European model?)

British class and education, French wine, Dutch cheese, German cars, Danish design, Italian style, rich culture and FSU women.

-v-

The American condition, ropey weak beer, plastic cheese, cars that fall apart, no design to speak of, no style or culture at all and overweight, feminist women who see therapists and watch Jerry Springer.

Yes, I see your point.

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Re: USA -v- Europe.
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2016, 12:22:45 PM »
(doesn't every normal guy dream of a superior European model?)

British class and education, French wine, Dutch cheese, German cars, Danish design, Italian style, rich culture and FSU women.

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The American condition, ropey weak beer, plastic cheese, cars that fall apart, no design to speak of, no style or culture at all and overweight, feminist women who see therapists and watch Jerry Springer.

Yes, I see your point.

Let's see there is Corvette's and Tesla's, Sam Adams as well Two Roads beer, America is creating international award winning cheeses, and has NPR and a vibrant culture.

England has Rover, oh wait owned by the Chinese, Jaguar owned by an Indian firm, lots of towel heads and a most likely future mayor of London who is openly associated with Muslim extremists. There is Coronation Street and the artistic talent called David Hockney. And you have Tony and Jeremy.

But one should be careful, I drive a Saab, own a Hanse sailboat, prefer Greek olive oil and really like aged Parmigiana. Plus my suits are English made in America.
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Re: USA -v- Europe.
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2016, 12:46:19 PM »
Relations Can Flourish When US Recognizes Russia Is No Longer a Doormat

http://russia-insider.com/en/russia-rises-mat/ri14226
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Re: USA -v- Europe.
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2016, 01:03:26 PM »
(doesn't every normal guy dream of a superior European model?)

British class and education, French wine, Dutch cheese, German cars, Danish design, Italian style, rich culture and FSU women.

-v-

The American condition, ropey weak beer, plastic cheese, cars that fall apart, no design to speak of, no style or culture at all and overweight, feminist women who see therapists and watch Jerry Springer.

Yes, I see your point.

Let's see there is Corvette's and Tesla's, Sam Adams as well Two Roads beer, America is creating international award winning cheeses, and has NPR and a vibrant culture.

England has Rover, oh wait owned by the Chinese, Jaguar owned by an Indian firm, lots of towel heads and a most likely future mayor of London who is openly associated with Muslim extremists. There is Coronation Street and the artistic talent called David Hockney. And you have Tony and Jeremy.

But one should be careful, I drive a Saab, own a Hanse sailboat, prefer Greek olive oil and really like aged Parmigiana. Plus my suits are English made in America.

That was almost too easy!  :ROFL:

Let me add my 2 cents.  As far as cars we beat the British hands down both on price and reliability, whether it's GMC or Ford.  Although I like German cars very much again American cars are more reliable, lower cost to operate and lower cost to purchase.  Although it's really a moot point as people can purchase what they like and what they can afford.

As far as cheese over here on the West Coast we've got Tillamook and Facerock and numerous other Artisan cheese's that Manny's never heard of because he goes to 7-11 for Velveeta just so he can then whine about our cheese.  Either that or he's just incredibly cheap. 

Again here on the West Coast for Beer we've got Widmer (my favorite is the Hefe), Pyramid and about 500 other small craft beers which easily compete with Germany's best.

No design to speak of?  There's Manny doing his best to hate on America.  But ask his wife and she knows California has a ton of design and style, as does New York City home of the best designers in the World.  Tommy Hilfiger, Ralph Lauren, etc.  Very unique American design that in fact is popular and coveted all over the World.

The average FSU woman would not feel complete without a badly designed (in China) knock off of an American T shirt with an attempt at nonsensical English.  Take her some real American designed shirts and you're in like Flynn.

For Architecture we've got Frank Lloyd Wright, the weird dude in California named Frank Gehry, etc.  Quality and design which is uniquely American goes back to Colonial then up to Art Deco in Miami, Long Beach, CA. etc.

British class must have faded many years ago if the most glaring example of a lack of it is any indication (okay, an expat in Estonia). 

Education?  I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it?  Wonder why we have so many top ranked Universities?

London?  You just lost it to a new Muslim Mayor who had extremist ties.  Look for more attempts at full on Sharia.  Lost forever within 2 or 3 decades is my estimate.

Suits?  If I wore them I would take Hickey-Freeman or Hart Shaffner and Marx over most pseudo British products. 

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Re: USA -v- Europe.
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2016, 01:25:29 PM »
(doesn't every normal guy dream of a superior European model?)

British class and education, French wine, Dutch cheese, German cars, Danish design, Italian style, rich culture and FSU women.

-v-

The American condition, ropey weak beer, plastic cheese, cars that fall apart, no design to speak of, no style or culture at all and overweight, feminist women who see therapists and watch Jerry Springer.

Yes, I see your point.

Let's see there is Corvette's and Tesla's, Sam Adams as well Two Roads beer, America is creating international award winning cheeses, and has NPR and a vibrant culture.

England has Rover, oh wait owned by the Chinese, Jaguar owned by an Indian firm, lots of towel heads and a most likely future mayor of London who is openly associated with Muslim extremists. There is Coronation Street and the artistic talent called David Hockney. And you have Tony and Jeremy.

But one should be careful, I drive a Saab, own a Hanse sailboat, prefer Greek olive oil and really like aged Parmigiana. Plus my suits are English made in America.

That was almost too easy!  :ROFL:

Let me add my 2 cents.  As far as cars we beat the British hands down both on price and reliability, whether it's GMC or Ford.  Although I like German cars very much again American cars are more reliable, lower cost to operate and lower cost to purchase.  Although it's really a moot point as people can purchase what they like and what they can afford.

As far as cheese over here on the West Coast we've got Tillamook and Facerock and numerous other Artisan cheese's that Manny's never heard of because he goes to 7-11 for Velveeta just so he can then whine about our cheese.  Either that or he's just incredibly cheap. 

Again here on the West Coast for Beer we've got Widmer (my favorite is the Hefe), Pyramid and about 500 other small craft beers which easily compete with Germany's best.

No design to speak of?  There's Manny doing his best to hate on America.  But ask his wife and she knows California has a ton of design and style, as does New York City home of the best designers in the World.  Tommy Hilfiger, Ralph Lauren, etc.  Very unique American design that in fact is popular and coveted all over the World.

The average FSU woman would not feel complete without a badly designed (in China) knock off of an American T shirt with an attempt at nonsensical English.  Take her some real American designed shirts and you're in like Flynn.

For Architecture we've got Frank Lloyd Wright, the weird dude in California named Frank Gehry, etc.  Quality and design which is uniquely American goes back to Colonial then up to Art Deco in Miami, Long Beach, CA. etc.

British class must have faded many years ago if the most glaring example of a lack of it is any indication (okay, an expat in Estonia). 

Education?  I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it?  Wonder why we have so many top ranked Universities?

London?  You just lost it to a new Muslim Mayor who had extremist ties.  Look for more attempts at full on Sharia.  Lost forever within 2 or 3 decades is my estimate.

Suits?  If I wore them I would take Hickey-Freeman or Hart Shaffner and Marx over most pseudo British products. 

 :popcorn:


Education?  I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it?  Wonder why we have so many top ranked Universities?

Thats if you survive the course without being shot or buggered by some big black mother ***** :laugh:

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Re: USA -v- Europe.
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2016, 01:33:24 PM »

Education?  I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it?  Wonder why we have so many top ranked Universities?

Thats if you survive the course without being shot or buggered by some big black mother ***** :laugh:

I would not laugh, based on your posts you seem to an uneducated, bigoted little toady that prefers to be shit faced on a regular basis.
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Re: USA -v- Europe.
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2016, 01:39:47 PM »

Education?  I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it?  Wonder why we have so many top ranked Universities?

Thats if you survive the course without being shot or buggered by some big black mother ***** :laugh:

I would not laugh, based on your posts you seem to an uneducated, bigoted little toady that prefers to be shit faced on a regular basis.

Sorry I never went to Harvard like you... Just the local council estate , and a crummy comprehensive.. I guess I will not be going for a beer with you any time soon  :laugh:

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Re: USA -v- Europe.
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2016, 01:58:11 PM »

Education?  I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it?  Wonder why we have so many top ranked Universities?

Thats if you survive the course without being shot or buggered by some big black mother ***** :laugh:

I would not laugh, based on your posts you seem to an uneducated, bigoted little toady that prefers to be shit faced on a regular basis.

Sorry I never went to Harvard like you... Just the local council estate , and a crummy comprehensive.. I guess I will not be going for a beer with you any time soon  :laugh:

Do not worry finished high school, and learned arty farty stuff on my own. As well as when to see douche bags BS's.

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Re: USA -v- Europe.
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2016, 02:51:26 PM »
Let's see there is Corvette's

Made of plastic last time I looked.

and Tesla's,

That nobody buys.

Sam Adams as well Two Roads beer,

Never heard of either.

America is creating international award winning cheeses,

In America maybe. It aint on the shelves here.

and has NPR and a vibrant culture.

Dunno what is "NPR".

England has Rover, oh wait owned by the Chinese,

Rover has been gone for many years.

Jaguar owned by an Indian firm,

England has a rich and interesting history with India. Nothing wrong with that.

lots of towel heads

I'll give you that one.

and a most likely future mayor of London who is openly associated with Muslim extremists.

Yes, like Sweden, London is lost now. Thankfully, I don't live there.

There is Coronation Street

People like that but I dont watch it.

and the artistic talent called David Hockney. And you have Tony and Jeremy.

Not sure who these people are.

I drive a Saab,

Another defunct car company; like Rover.

own a Hanse sailboat, prefer Greek olive oil and really like aged Parmigiana.

There is hope for you yet.

Plus my suits are English made in America.

If you need a decent Hong Kong tailor? Try this bloke. No need to pay American prices.

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Re: USA -v- Europe.
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2016, 03:03:42 PM »
As far as cars we beat the British hands down both on price and reliability, whether it's GMC or Ford. 

Yes coz Chevy pickups are so much better than Rolls Royce, Jaguar, Range Rover and Aston Martin, right?  :ROFL:

Although I like German cars very much again American cars are more reliable, lower cost to operate and lower cost to purchase.  Although it's really a moot point as people can purchase what they like and what they can afford.

Poor people!

As far as cheese over here on the West Coast we've got Tillamook and Facerock and numerous other Artisan cheese's that Manny's never heard of because he goes to 7-11 for Velveeta just so he can then whine about our cheese.  Either that or he's just incredibly cheap. 

Please don't try to tell a European about cheese.  (:)

Again here on the West Coast for Beer we've got Widmer (my favorite is the Hefe), Pyramid and about 500 other small craft beers which easily compete with Germany's best.

Any export numbers to Germany handy?

No design to speak of?  There's Manny doing his best to hate on America.  But ask his wife and she knows California has a ton of design and style, as does New York City home of the best designers in the World.  Tommy Hilfiger, Ralph Lauren, etc.  Very unique American design that in fact is popular and coveted all over the World.

Dude, Hilfiger? Take a look in Italy and get back to me.  :Zzzzsleep:

The average FSU woman would not feel complete without a badly designed (in China) knock off of an American T shirt with an attempt at nonsensical English.  Take her some real American designed shirts and you're in like Flynn.

Cheap guys seek out cheap women I guess.

For Architecture we've got Frank Lloyd Wright, the weird dude in California named Frank Gehry, etc.  Quality and design which is uniquely American goes back to Colonial then up to Art Deco in Miami, Long Beach, CA. etc.

I'll raise you the Romans, the Georgians, the Victorians and everything since.

Education?  I wonder why so many foreigners flock to the USA for it?

Coz they closed Oxford and Cambridge?  :chuckle:

London?  You just lost it to a new Muslim Mayor who had extremist ties.  Look for more attempts at full on Sharia.  Lost forever within 2 or 3 decades is my estimate.

That point goes to you.  :bow:

Suits?  If I wore them I would take Hickey-Freeman or Hart Shaffner and Marx over most pseudo British products. 

You dont need a designer to make white running shoes, long socks, baseball caps and fanny packs.  :)

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Re: USA -v- Europe.
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2016, 04:14:55 PM »
Manny, your at it again, bashing America and picking and choosing what you like
A little north of the US we have better beer, better seafood including "fish & chips"
Fair bit of culture as 90% of our people come from all over the world.
Oh and the #1 selling sports car in the world is the new Mustang, even in Germany.
This car has won every major award beating out cars 2-3 times its value.
Sorry you can't buy one  :chuckle:


PS, everyone also wants the brits teeth :)
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2016, 04:17:52 PM »
Manny, your at it again, bashing America and picking and choosing what you like
A little north of the US we have better beer, better seafood including "fish & chips"
Fair bit of culture as 90% of our people come from all over the world.

You have the Queen. We taught you everything you know. What can I say?  :chuckle:

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« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2016, 06:02:24 PM »
Let's see there is Corvette's
Made of plastic last time I looked.
Hello, they always have been made of plastic (fiberglass). Is it not Morgan who uses Ford as a platform? Off course there is that wonderful contribution to the motoring world from England, the Plastic Pig.
 
and Tesla's,
That nobody buys.
Funny I saw two in L'viv last time I was there (2015) and this year I seem to remember three in Kivy. In Connecticut I get tired of seeing them sort of ordinary, now.

Sam Adams as well Two Roads beer,
Never heard of either.
You need to spread your wings and try something new. It will not hurt.

America is creating international award winning cheeses,
In America maybe. It aint on the shelves here.
Was a while back in Paris, and an American cheese in some sort of competition (cheddar division), bested all the other entries. Though America has a way to go on the veined (blue) cheese department in my opinion.

and has NPR and a vibrant culture.
Dunno what is "NPR".
National Public Radio, receives a small amount of money for its cultural mostly music programs from the US government. America has produced musicians from Steve Riech and Philip Glass to REM and Tears for Fears, to name a few. OK I will admit I do like a fair bit of the English pop, as well as groups such as ColdPlay, The Clash, Elvis Costello and Peter Gabriel. But really you need to listen to and read some alternative sources other than all the Russian nonsense. You are getting to sound like Archie Bunker with a bad accent. Otherwise you will getting pats on the back from Wiz.

England has Rover, oh wait owned by the Chinese,
Rover has been gone for many years.
Jaguar owned by an Indian firm,
England has a rich and interesting history with India. Nothing wrong with that.
Rover was first owned by Honda and than BMW. Since it was the car of respectable English folk it says something for English industry. Pun intended.

lots of towel heads
I'll give you that one.
and a most likely future mayor of London who is openly associated with Muslim extremists.
Yes, like Sweden, London is lost now. Thankfully, I don't live there.
Stay calm and pray on (7 times a day)

There is Coronation Street
People like that but I dont watch it.
and the artistic talent called David Hockney. And you have Tony and Jeremy.
Not sure who these people are.
David Hockney is your preeminent English artist, though personally I prefer the guy called Banksy. Tony Blair is if I recall a Hillary wannabe, Jeremy Corbyn is a rising star. Of course there is Jeremy Clarkson, why was he not knighted? Really you need to get out some more.

I drive a Saab,
Another defunct car company; like Rover.
Yes that is a Saab story. But I have always owned the line.

own a Hanse sailboat, prefer Greek olive oil and really like aged Parmigiana.
There is hope for you yet.
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Re: USA -v- Europe.
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2016, 08:09:44 PM »
Manny, your at it again, bashing America and picking and choosing what you like
A little north of the US we have better beer, better seafood including "fish & chips"
Fair bit of culture as 90% of our people come from all over the world.
Oh and the #1 selling sports car in the world is the new Mustang, even in Germany.
This car has won every major award beating out cars 2-3 times its value.
Sorry you can't buy one  :chuckle:


PS, everyone also wants the brits teeth :)

Manny has so little real knowledge of America I don't know why anyone of us try to educate him; seems a total waste of time.

Anyways very nice Shelby.  An American muscle car legend, made in the United States of America.  Seems some of these Brits still have a hangover from losing their Empire and since us Yanks played a major role in that they still are trying to rewrite history.
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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2016, 08:29:19 PM »
Manny, you haven't even heard of Samuel Adams beer, yet you think you've got a right to criticize American beer?  Let me guess, just like when you bought some Velveeta cheese at 7-11, you also bought a 6 pack of Budweiser.  :sick0012:

Europeans know cheese?  Oh do they?  Seems you don't know much about the subject matter -- Artisan and other high quality American cheese manufacturers.  How can you possibly consider yourself qualified to criticize American cheese, when you've never had Tilamook, one of the major West Coast players?  Have you ever tried one of their 12 month aged sharp cheddars?  Nope, you just like to spew your usual rabid anti-American propaganda.

I've got a nice Face Rock rockin' pepper jack in my fridge right now, waiting for a special occasion.  Have you ever had it or any of the hundreds of regional Artisan American made cheeses?  No, you just like to shoot from the hip.

Would I rather drive a brand new Chevy truck over an overpriced Rolls, Jaguar or Land Rover?  You bet I would.  Admittedly I will end up with a used one, but I consider your statement to be a hypothetical.  You can't afford any of those anyways, it just makes a guy like you feel good to drop names.  Oh pardon, you say you did purchase a used Land Rover.  They are very nice to look at.  Initial purchase price, maintenance and insurance are very high.

Here's a link you can read up on Sam Adams and get a proper beer next time you visit Florida.

http://www.samueladams.com/history


I'm too tired now to deal with the rest of your misconceptions; later.


PS...Didn't you drive a Chrysler 300 at one time?  Uh huh.  :laugh:

PPS...the one photo I've seen of you and you were wearing jeans.  Forgot that jeans were invented in the USA by Levi Straus, did you??  :ROFL:
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