Bags packed waiting on the border!

[Steveboy]

When Romania joined the Eu and the people of Romania were allowed to visit/work or what ever in the EU they had their bags packed and were sat at the border 11.59 ready to leave the following day

Looks like the EU has stuck its finger up to Holland as end of July Ukraine has visa free travel to Europe, you can be sure millions will go missing or get lost in the EU the following day along with millions of Turks.

I remember living in Portsmouth several streets were full of kabab shops everyone knowing they employed illegals who lived up stairs. Often they would get raided by the police. Looks like half of Ukraine will now get "lost" during their visit to the EU 

Its funny how the EU a shinning example of democracy and standards can even contemplate dealing with Ukraine or Turkey..

But then I guess it all comes down to 

It means 2 things for the Ukrainian dating industry,

1. Cheapo guys with not so much cash will be able to offer OLDER Ukrainian women a ticket to come visit him in Europe saving on costs.. (Of course the women will not say no)

2. Young guys searching for a young Ukrainian women , those days are finished for sure. Most young women only wish to travel, now thats possible who needs some old fart to travel with.

[Manny]

end of July Ukraine has visa free travel to Europe,

Has this been agreed now?

[Tom Cat]

E.U. may include a special provision in visa-free regime agreement with Ukraine - reports

http://uatoday.tv/politics/e-u-may-include-a-special-provision-in-visa-free-regime-agreement-with-ukraine-reports-632556.html

[leslied]

It is not just Ukraine.  By June Turkish Citizens will be allowed Visa free travel to Schengen countries -

http://www.schengenvisainfo.com/turkey-visa-free-travel-schengen/

This will happen because if it does not then expect 250K migrants exporting themselves to the EU in July...

[Steveboy]

end of July Ukraine has visa free travel to Europe,

Has this been agreed now?

According to Russian news it will be in July, but I also read it will be early next year. Im sure it will be rail loaded through asap!

Beats me what a f**** world we live in..double standards is the norm

[Steveboy]

There is another big crisis just waiting to happen! You have all the Oil rich countries, Saudi , Jordan, UA, Kuwait to name a few!

What do they produce? Oil.. Camel markets and camel shit!  So sometime in the not to distant future there will be no demand for oil , sometime in the future oil will just be old fashioned just like a Russian marriage agency. No body will need it.

So when the oil dries up , who wants to buy camels and camel shit?? Nobody!! Do these countries have any other industries? Of course not.

So where will millions of folk be heading?

Yes you got it.. The EU  Probably camel shit included..

[msmoby]

When Romania joined the Eu and the people of Romania were allowed to visit/work or what ever in the EU they had their bags packed and were sat at the border 11.59 ready to leave the following day

Steveboy, that was the 'fear' ... the reality was somewhat different .. The Romanians and Bulgarians had special restrictions put on them by several EU states - incl. the UK - they needed work permits and couldn't just tip up and claim benefits.. I well remember the news channels waiting and being disappointed...

[Manny]

When Romania joined the Eu and the people of Romania were allowed to visit/work or what ever in the EU they had their bags packed and were sat at the border 11.59 ready to leave the following day

Steveboy, that was the 'fear' ... the reality was somewhat different .. The Romanians and Bulgarians had special restrictions put on them by several EU states - incl. the UK - they needed work permits and couldn't just tip up and claim benefits.. I well remember the news channels waiting and being disappointed...

It didn't stop millions of them coming, Mr Corbyn.

[msmoby]

It didn't stop millions of them coming, Mr Corbyn.

Your 'millions' are a vital digit short of fact

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31519319

[Markje]

When Romania joined the Eu and the people of Romania were allowed to visit/work or what ever in the EU they had their bags packed and were sat at the border 11.59 ready to leave the following day

Steveboy, that was the 'fear' ... the reality was somewhat different .. The Romanians and Bulgarians had special restrictions put on them by several EU states - incl. the UK - they needed work permits and couldn't just tip up and claim benefits.. I well remember the news channels waiting and being disappointed...

It didn't stop millions of them coming, Mr Corbyn.

Not only that, but it seems Ukrainians asked for Asylum in Netherlands, got denied and were sent home with $2500 travel costs. Seems that was more than what they were paid, so their numbers swelled until the Netherlands scrapped this arrangement for Ukraine.

Mark.

[msmoby]

Not only that, but it seems Ukrainians asked for Asylum in Netherlands, got denied and were sent home with $2500 travel costs. Seems that was more than what they were paid, so their numbers swelled until the Netherlands scrapped this arrangement for Ukraine.

Mark.

It would be interesting to know from where and whom they were seeking asylum in Ukraine and the percentage granted

[Dogsoldier]

When Romania joined the Eu and the people of Romania were allowed to visit/work or what ever in the EU they had their bags packed and were sat at the border 11.59 ready to leave the following day

Steveboy, that was the 'fear' ... the reality was somewhat different .. The Romanians and Bulgarians had special restrictions put on them by several EU states - incl. the UK - they needed work permits and couldn't just tip up and claim benefits.. I well remember the news channels waiting and being disappointed...

No they didn't.

[Markje]

Not only that, but it seems Ukrainians asked for Asylum in Netherlands, got denied and were sent home with $2500 travel costs. Seems that was more than what they were paid, so their numbers swelled until the Netherlands scrapped this arrangement for Ukraine.

Mark.

It would be interesting to know from where and whom they were seeking asylum in Ukraine and the percentage granted

Themselves, and denied 100% as Netherlands said Ukraine is a safe country to live in.

The problem is :
Evgeny earns $2000/year. The sending-home money is Eur-2500....

So, if he is frugal with travel-costs, he can earn a whole year-salary in 2-3 weeks work.
(until NL wised up and reduced the travel-cost bonus for Ukr. people.)

Mark.

[Anteros]

When Romania joined the Eu and the people of Romania were allowed to visit/work or what ever in the EU they had their bags packed and were sat at the border 11.59 ready to leave the following day

Steveboy, that was the 'fear' ... the reality was somewhat different .. The Romanians and Bulgarians had special restrictions put on them by several EU states - incl. the UK - they needed work permits and couldn't just tip up and claim benefits.. I well remember the news channels waiting and being disappointed...

It didn't stop millions of them coming, Mr Corbyn.

Not only that, but it seems Ukrainians asked for Asylum in Netherlands, got denied and were sent home with $2500 travel costs. Seems that was more than what they were paid, so their numbers swelled until the Netherlands scrapped this arrangement for Ukraine.

Mark.

Now that's a useful job for the average Ukrainian! 

[Steveboy]

Im glad Im out of the EU.. The UK has changed considerably over the last 10 years even. Were visiting London next month and I'm already not looking forward to it. London is not the place it used to be

10/20 years its just going to be a flea pit, only the wealthy will live there who can afford a gated or secure accommodation. Anyone else with just have to live in the hell hole, it will be like the city in the classic movie "Blade Runner"

I think the best option today is to live in International waters on a small island or a nice big boat away from all the shit that goes on in this planet

[msmoby]

No they didn't.

You didn't get the memo    ?

From a site you might like to familiarise yourself with .

It covers the time I refer to

''Nationals of Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Poland, Romania, Slovenia and Slovakia may face temporary restrictions on working in another country, but for no more than 7 years after their countries joined the EU (Bulgaria and Romania joined on 1 January 2007, all the others on 1 May 2004).''

http://immigrationmatters.co.uk/free-movement-of-eu-nationals-explained.html

[Dogsoldier]

Im glad Im out of the EU.. The UK has changed considerably over the last 10 years even. Were visiting London next month and I'm already not looking forward to it. London is not the place it used to be

True, its a craphole.

10/20 years its just going to be a flea pit, only the wealthy will live there who can afford a gated or secure accommodation. Anyone else with just have to live in the hell hole, it will be like the city in the classic movie "Blade Runner"

It already is.

I think the best option today is to live in International waters on a small island or a nice big boat away from all the shit that goes on in this planet

If you have £20 million spare, something like this.

[Steveboy]

Im glad Im out of the EU.. The UK has changed considerably over the last 10 years even. Were visiting London next month and I'm already not looking forward to it. London is not the place it used to be

True, its a craphole.

10/20 years its just going to be a flea pit, only the wealthy will live there who can afford a gated or secure accommodation. Anyone else with just have to live in the hell hole, it will be like the city in the classic movie "Blade Runner"

It already is.

I think the best option today is to live in International waters on a small island or a nice big boat away from all the shit that goes on in this planet

If you have £20 million spare, something like this.

Thats the exact boat I want! I could live there "a Lord to myself and answerable to none" perfect!

[Dogsoldier]

Im glad Im out of the EU.. The UK has changed considerably over the last 10 years even. Were visiting London next month and I'm already not looking forward to it. London is not the place it used to be

True, its a craphole.

10/20 years its just going to be a flea pit, only the wealthy will live there who can afford a gated or secure accommodation. Anyone else with just have to live in the hell hole, it will be like the city in the classic movie "Blade Runner"

It already is.

I think the best option today is to live in International waters on a small island or a nice big boat away from all the shit that goes on in this planet

If you have £20 million spare, something like this.

Thats the exact boat I want! I could live there "a Lord to myself and answerable to none" perfect!

Better hope your new look website can deliver the keys.......

[Steveboy]

Im glad Im out of the EU.. The UK has changed considerably over the last 10 years even. Were visiting London next month and I'm already not looking forward to it. London is not the place it used to be

True, its a craphole.

10/20 years its just going to be a flea pit, only the wealthy will live there who can afford a gated or secure accommodation. Anyone else with just have to live in the hell hole, it will be like the city in the classic movie "Blade Runner"

It already is.

I think the best option today is to live in International waters on a small island or a nice big boat away from all the shit that goes on in this planet

If you have £20 million spare, something like this.

Thats the exact boat I want! I could live there "a Lord to myself and answerable to none" perfect!

Better hope your new look website can deliver the keys.......

3/5 years watch this space...Im a doer not a talker..

[Dogsoldier]

Im glad Im out of the EU.. The UK has changed considerably over the last 10 years even. Were visiting London next month and I'm already not looking forward to it. London is not the place it used to be

True, its a craphole.

10/20 years its just going to be a flea pit, only the wealthy will live there who can afford a gated or secure accommodation. Anyone else with just have to live in the hell hole, it will be like the city in the classic movie "Blade Runner"

It already is.

I think the best option today is to live in International waters on a small island or a nice big boat away from all the shit that goes on in this planet

If you have £20 million spare, something like this.

Thats the exact boat I want! I could live there "a Lord to myself and answerable to none" perfect!

Better hope your new look website can deliver the keys.......

3/5 years watch this space...Im a doer not a talker..

I expect a nice cruise, no less. 

[Steveboy]

Im glad Im out of the EU.. The UK has changed considerably over the last 10 years even. Were visiting London next month and I'm already not looking forward to it. London is not the place it used to be

True, its a craphole.

10/20 years its just going to be a flea pit, only the wealthy will live there who can afford a gated or secure accommodation. Anyone else with just have to live in the hell hole, it will be like the city in the classic movie "Blade Runner"

It already is.

I think the best option today is to live in International waters on a small island or a nice big boat away from all the shit that goes on in this planet

If you have £20 million spare, something like this.

Thats the exact boat I want! I could live there "a Lord to myself and answerable to none" perfect!

Better hope your new look website can deliver the keys.......

3/5 years watch this space...Im a doer not a talker..

I expect a nice cruise, no less. 

Of course !! Unfortunately there will be no lefties any where to be seen , If I don't like the look of you you don't sail .. No human rights sorry 

And just incase we cross some rubber dinghies some where out there I will not be towing them back any where. The harpoon gun will be used   

If Moby just happens to be in the dinghy, tough luck mate, your going to the ocean bed 

[Manny]

It didn't stop millions of them coming, Mr Corbyn.

Your 'millions' are a vital digit short of fact

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31519319

Well first, you quote the governments lefty propaganda channel. 

Even if it were true, that only refers to "workers" who are registered. Most work black and/or claim benefits.

As we know from experience with the Polish, you can generally double or even quadruple any number given out by the government. The truth is they don't know how many are here. And don't pretend you don't know that.

[msmoby]

Well first, you quote the governments lefty propaganda channel. 

now who really is swerving  ? do you doubt the figures ?

Even if it were true, that only refers to "workers" who are registered. Most work black and/or claim benefits.

big swerve ...

SO, 'they ' either fly under the radar or claim benefits... ?

You haven't got the first clue ... geting govt' 'handouts' isn't as easy as DM readers think ..

[Gipsy]

No they didn't.

You didn't get the memo    ?

From a site you might like to familiarise yourself with .

It covers the time I refer to

''Nationals of Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Poland, Romania, Slovenia and Slovakia may face temporary restrictions on working in another country, but for no more than 7 years after their countries joined the EU (Bulgaria and Romania joined on 1 January 2007, all the others on 1 May 2004).''

http://immigrationmatters.co.uk/free-movement-of-eu-nationals-explained.html

They did not, nothing other than a register was implemented, where they were required to register for their first 12 months stay, this was from 2004, when Bulgaria and Romania joined in 2007, the register had long been abandoned.

HTH