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Any updates on the air crash?
« on: March 18, 2016, 08:35:16 PM »
I heard another Russian liner went down in south-west Russia. Evidently flying from Dubai.

It seemed to be an early morning crash caused by high winds. Ironic. 03:30 is not usually a time for high winds.

Anyone hear any more news?

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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2016, 08:41:04 PM »
I heard another Russian liner went down in south-west Russia. Evidently flying from Dubai.

It seemed to be an early morning crash caused by high winds. Ironic. 03:30 is not usually a time for high winds.

Anyone hear any more news?

Wayne

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35850167

It's in Rostov - close to Sparky ... I expect he'll have more local input

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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2016, 08:46:51 PM »
It is not 'another' Russian airliner crashing ------ it is  Boeing 737-800 of Air Dubai ... btw


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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2016, 11:03:23 PM »
I heard another Russian liner went down in south-west Russia. Evidently flying from Dubai.

It seemed to be an early morning crash caused by high winds. Ironic. 03:30 is not usually a time for high winds.

Anyone hear any more news?

Wayne

Not a Russian Company, it was a "Fly Dubai, low cost airways Boeing 737-800.

Apparantly it was trying to make a second attempt at landing, after the first attempt failed, during which, it encountered a Tail strike, according to first reports, it was landing cross wind with the wind at about 45mph, heavy rain and poor visibility,
It is said that the majority of passengers were from the Rostov area...

 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35850167

RIP..

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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2016, 11:26:06 PM »
A VERY sad day here in the southern Rostov on Don region, our thoughts and prayers go out to the families that are affected by this and to the local community.

Yesterday was a very rough and windy day and last night we had very heavy rain in our area, the airport is in the city and is very close to habitation, a very sad occurance
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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2016, 03:04:15 AM »
A VERY sad day here in the southern Rostov on Don region, our thoughts and prayers go out to the families that are affected by this and to the local community.

Yesterday was a very rough and windy day and last night we had very heavy rain in our area, the airport is in the city and is very close to habitation, a very sad occurance

Indeed. Very high wind and hard rain last night then woke up to snow this morning.
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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2016, 05:38:58 AM »
A VERY sad day here in the southern Rostov on Don region, our thoughts and prayers go out to the families that are affected by this and to the local community.

Yesterday was a very rough and windy day and last night we had very heavy rain in our area, the airport is in the city and is very close to habitation, a very sad occurance

Indeed. Very high wind and hard rain last night then woke up to snow this morning.
Yes snow here too but mostly melted here now 😊
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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2016, 06:13:32 AM »
I heard another Russian liner went down in south-west Russia. Evidently flying from Dubai.

It seemed to be an early morning crash caused by high winds. Ironic. 03:30 is not usually a time for high winds.

Anyone hear any more news?

Wayne
Not a Russian Company, it was a "Fly Dubai, low cost airways Boeing 737-800.

Apparantly it was trying to make a second attempt at landing, after the first attempt failed, during which, it encountered a Tail strike, according to first reports, it was landing cross wind with the wind at about 45mph, heavy rain and poor visibility,
It is said that the majority of passengers were from the Rostov area...

 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35850167

RIP..

I watched the video about 10 times and it looks like the plane was on fire and crashed into the ground at a 75-80 degree angle. I can't see how that can be a tail strike with a fairly horizontal crash.

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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2016, 07:14:12 AM »
I heard another Russian liner went down in south-west Russia. Evidently flying from Dubai.

It seemed to be an early morning crash caused by high winds. Ironic. 03:30 is not usually a time for high winds.

Anyone hear any more news?

Wayne
Not a Russian Company, it was a "Fly Dubai, low cost airways Boeing 737-800.

Apparantly it was trying to make a second attempt at landing, after the first attempt failed, during which, it encountered a Tail strike, according to first reports, it was landing cross wind with the wind at about 45mph, heavy rain and poor visibility,
It is said that the majority of passengers were from the Rostov area...

 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35850167

RIP..

I watched the video about 10 times and it looks like the plane was on fire and crashed into the ground at a 75-80 degree angle. I can't see how that can be a tail strike with a fairly horizontal crash.

The plane unfortunately crashed on its second landing attempt, some 2 hours after its first attempt, it was on this first attempt when reportedly, the plane had a tail strike.

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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2016, 09:34:45 AM »
Storm warning was in the Southern Federal District of Russia:





March 19 at the Rostov region, Kalmykia, Krasnodar region, on the Black Sea coast will take heavy rain turns into snow. It is predicted sticking of wet snow on the wires and trees. Storm warning announced in the Stavropol Territory and Rostov Region - wind with gusts up to 30 m / s. On Saturday and Sunday night -1 ..- 6, noon to 7, on the Black Sea Coast 7-12. And only in the middle of next week the temperature will return to the usual 20 degrees of heat.

http://www.meteoinfo.ru/news/1-2009-10-01-09-03-06/12287-18032016-

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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2016, 10:00:50 AM »
Meteorologists voiced another possible version, which could lead to the deaths of 62 people, passengers and crew members of "737". Recall aircraft on Saturday night down near Rostov, 200 meters from the runway. Flying from Dubai aboard about two hours circling over the airport, I have made several attempts to sit down and crashed during a routine approach.
It is reported that at the time of accident, meteorologists recorded a rare atmospheric phenomenon - jet stream. This is the strongest gusts of wind with speeds of up to 100 kilometers per hour (it is up to 30 meters per second). At high altitude the pilots often use them as a passing wind to save fuel. But while reducing the jet stream can be dangerous. At the time of the tragedy, as reported, this phenomenon was observed in ten times less than usual - at an altitude of 600-700 meters.
- Jet stream - a phenomenon in the middle atmosphere, - said the "Komsomolskaya Pravda" the chief specialist of the Met Office in Moscow Tatyana Pozdnyakov. - Usually it occurs at an altitude of 5-12 kilometers. Upon rotation of the earth turns wind deflection in west-east direction. But sometimes due to atmospheric fronts there is a strengthening of the western migration. To put it simply, imagine the two standing next to tall buildings. When the wind blows, formed a powerful jet between them. But the jet stream - it is not just a gust of wind, it is a stable strong air movement.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frEOReOFSwg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frEOReOFSwg</a>

http://www.saratov.kp.ru/daily/26506.7/3375083/

I believe that in this case the jet stream present lower layer of the atmosphere: 0 - 2000 meters (en., jetlet). There are strong wind shears. As for speed, and direction.

http://www.komimeteo.ru/encyclopedia/termin889.html



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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2016, 10:04:33 AM »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOxwAgZHWc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sOxwAgZHWc</a>
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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2016, 10:22:08 AM »
The chronicle of the fall of Boeing at the airport Rostov-on-Don.



http://m.msk.kp.ru/daily/26506.7/3375061/

FlyDubai believed in the ability of its pilots to fly in any weather.

flynews24.ru/news-114442.html

Oh, those hot southern head.  :GRRRR: When the weather is bad, even the angels do not fly.  :-X

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Re: Any updates on the air crash?
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2016, 10:35:12 AM »
What I cannot understand, if the first attempted landing had failed due to the weather, and by all reports the weather was worsening, Why was the plane not diverted to another airport either in, or out of the region?