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Offline Net_Lenka

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Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« on: February 29, 2016, 03:14:07 PM »
 :duh: was all over youtube today


https://www.rt.com/news/334013-moscow-woman-severed-head/

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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2016, 03:39:41 PM »
Videos of the incident all over Youtube. This one reports to having her shout "Allah u Akbar". The sound quality is poor and I couldn't make out much of what she was saying.

Maybe she's saying "Allah u Akbar" in Russian? Is this a lone wolf Muslim attack or is she simply crazy?
 
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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2016, 03:55:14 PM »
She was shouting on mix Russian and Uzbek (  or whatever she is from) ... and like it appeared she was just insane ( either she was on drugs or not - that it's not proved yet) Though she was working like babysitter  for about 1,5 year in that family and it was all Ok
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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2016, 12:19:47 AM »
This ain't no 'terrist' attack. It is a poor woman gone insane. And,  of course, the poor victims,  including those not dead.

But, no doubt that the incident will serve the various narratives of several stakeholders.

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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2016, 01:06:12 AM »
According to Dutch news, it wasn't a terrorist attack either, just a poor woman having a bad trip with drugs.

Whatever the case, I hope she has a special prison-time that will last long.

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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2016, 04:29:16 PM »
It appears that Russians have delicate constitutions. The story of a nanny's apparent beheading of a 4-year-old girl is largely absent from Russian TV. Major Russian TV channels such as Rossia-1 (Kremlin owned and operated), Channel One (Kremlin owned and operated), NTV (Kremlin owned and operated via Gazprom) and Moscow's TVTs, did not cover the story Monday in Moscow.

Unidentified employees of different networks said broadcasters received "recommendations" to stay away from the story by Russian officials, citing a government desire to avoid attention on national ethnic or religious issues.

"The Kremlin issues no instructions to the federal channels," Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said. "It is true that the channels, as we know, made a decision not to show this terrible tragedy. I believe that one can only support this decision, because the incident was too terrible to be shown on TV."


http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/03/01/Kremlin-Story-of-girls-beheading-too-terrible-to-be-shown-on-TV/1021456841258/
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russian-tv-silent-over-child-killed-by-nanny-in-moscow/561091.html
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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2016, 05:37:24 PM »
Unidentified employees of different networks said broadcasters received "recommendations" to stay away from the story by Russian officials, citing a government desire to avoid attention on national ethnic or religious issues.

This case can cause an uncontrollable wave of violence against Muslim population in Moscow and throughout Russia.
Just because of one insane person many innocent people can die.
It is better to wait and discuss later.
For the most of Russians it will be difficult to distinguish between psychiatric and religious issues.
This coldblooded murder will make many of them blind.

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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2016, 05:52:41 PM »
Unidentified employees of different networks said broadcasters received "recommendations" to stay away from the story by Russian officials, citing a government desire to avoid attention on national ethnic or religious issues.

This case can cause an uncontrollable wave of violence against Muslim population in Moscow and throughout Russia.
Just because of one insane person many innocent people can die.
It is better to wait and discuss later.
For the most of Russians it will be difficult to distinguish between psychiatric and religious issues.
This coldblooded murder will make many of them blind.

Orchid, to all accounts I've read Russia is one of the most corrupt and crime ridden countries in Europe, yet this is rarely mentioned in Russian media. Certainly Kremlin owned and operated media outlets don't mention much about murders and other crime in Russia.

However these same Russian media outlets are more than willing to mention murders and crime in the US. Why do you think that is? Does the Russian government want to give a false sense of security to the Russian people? Does Putin et al not want the Russian people to know how bad crime really is in Russia? Or is it something else?
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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2016, 06:23:33 PM »
Orchid, to all accounts I've read Russia is one of the most corrupt and crime ridden countries in Europe, yet this is rarely mentioned in Russian media. Certainly Kremlin owned and operated media outlets don't mention much about murders and other crime in Russia.

However these same Russian media outlets are more than willing to mention murders and crime in the US. Why do you think that is? Does the Russian government want to give a false sense of security to the Russian people? Does Putin et al not want the Russian people to know how bad crime really is in Russia? Or is it something else?

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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2016, 08:09:12 PM »
Unidentified employees of different networks said broadcasters received "recommendations" to stay away from the story by Russian officials, citing a government desire to avoid attention on national ethnic or religious issues.

This case can cause an uncontrollable wave of violence against Muslim population in Moscow and throughout Russia.
Just because of one insane person many innocent people can die.
It is better to wait and discuss later.
For the most of Russians it will be difficult to distinguish between psychiatric and religious issues.
This coldblooded murder will make many of them blind.

First of all my condolences to the family of the victim and to the Russian people. 

This is truly a sad event to have taken place.  I know how Americans would react.
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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2016, 10:05:08 PM »
It appears that Russians have delicate constitutions. The story of a nanny's apparent beheading of a 4-year-old girl is largely absent from Russian TV. Major Russian TV channels such as Rossia-1 (Kremlin owned and operated), Channel One (Kremlin owned and operated), NTV (Kremlin owned and operated via Gazprom) and Moscow's TVTs, did not cover the story Monday in Moscow.

Unidentified employees of different networks said broadcasters received "recommendations" to stay away from the story by Russian officials, citing a government desire to avoid attention on national ethnic or religious issues.

"The Kremlin issues no instructions to the federal channels," Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said. "It is true that the channels, as we know, made a decision not to show this terrible tragedy. I believe that one can only support this decision, because the incident was too terrible to be shown on TV."


http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/03/01/Kremlin-Story-of-girls-beheading-too-terrible-to-be-shown-on-TV/1021456841258/
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russian-tv-silent-over-child-killed-by-nanny-in-moscow/561091.html

Its on 5tv, and Kazan tv as I write...

Very sad.

I should also add, that its not on the majority of channels WC rightly put....
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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2016, 11:24:05 PM »
I should also add, that its not on the majority of channels WC rightly put....

 It was  enough awful  that mad woman was waving the baby's head on the videos all day all over the youtube No need to repeat horrible show on the main channels.
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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2016, 11:34:52 PM »
I should also add, that its not on the majority of channels WC rightly put....

 It was  enough awful  that mad woman was waving the baby's head on the videos all day all over the youtube No need to repeat horrible show on the main channels.

This morning, they did not show that, they only reported about the woman being tested for drugs and psychological problems..

As far as I could understand..
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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2016, 12:26:49 AM »
I've read Russia is one of the most corrupt and crime ridden countries in Europe,

But you only read western anti-Russian propaganda, so that's to be expected. 

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Re: Moscow - a horror movie in reality
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2016, 01:22:11 AM »
I've read Russia is one of the most corrupt and crime ridden countries in Europe,

But you only read western anti-Russian propaganda, so that's to be expected.

Not at all. Ever hear of Al Jazeera or Al Arabiya? There are others but these 2 Arab online news sites have global coverage that includes Russia. Can't say these organisations are run by the CIA.

At home we have Chinese language TV channels and of course a few Chinese language news sites. Again global coverage that includes Russia.

Add these sources in with European and North American news sites as well as Kremlin staples such RT, Sputnik, Tass and others and my sources of news are far greater and more diverse than someone like you who can't go beyond Kremlin owned and operated media organisations.   
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