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Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:27:33 PM »
This is a very smart move on the part of Russia.  For years many Chinese probably preferred to visit the Los Angeles area and Las Vegas, however with this move Russia can benefit from the new Chinese middle class.  This shopping center already had many employees who spoke Chinese, but they've moved to hire more and to also promote Moscow and this shopping center as a destination for Chinese tourists.


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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2016, 11:01:54 PM »
.. a little late ... given the downturn in China, too

China was the great hope for places like Thailand - when the bottom fell out of the Russian tourist market.




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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2016, 01:03:28 AM »
.. a little late ... given the downturn in China, too

The thing about downturns, is they do not affect everyone. There are plenty of Chinese still traveling and spending; as there are Russians elsewhere.
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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2016, 01:57:53 AM »
Moby, this will not suit your current attempt at manufacturing a worldview but China is growing,  more and more millionaires and billionaires, just that the rate at which this is occurring is reduced.

 
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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2016, 02:40:55 AM »
.. a little late ... given the downturn in China, too

The thing about downturns, is they do not affect everyone. There are plenty of Chinese still traveling and spending; as there are Russians elsewhere.

Downturns effect everyone of Moby's friends. He probably has some Chinese peasant friends on the Mongolian border..
I bet they were woolies jumpers also  :laugh:
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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2016, 02:49:37 AM »
.. a little late ... given the downturn in China, too

The thing about downturns, is they do not affect everyone. There are plenty of Chinese still traveling and spending; as there are Russians elsewhere.

Downturns effect everyone of Moby's friends. He probably has some Chinese peasant friends on the Mongolian border..
I bet they were woolies jumpers also  :laugh:
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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2016, 07:07:29 AM »




The thing about downturns, is they do not affect everyone. There are plenty of Chinese still traveling and spending; as there are Russians elsewhere.


OK...sone homework for you..Find us places were Russian Tourist numbers are back to the Summer 2014 visits..outside of Russia ?

If you have time to back up your assertion re China..that would be great...

Chinese visitors are DOWN in Thailand this year over 2014. This is the assessment of locals in the biz..but if you are patient..I am certain the published figures will back me up.

Downturns in Russia and China ..or any where mean... less confidence.. less holidays abroad....right ?

Why do you try to put a postive spin on stuff that we both know is pointless?

I expect UK folk going abroad was up.. and tourists to the UK from Eurozone nations were down..

I don't think you'd get so upset or even disagree with that....

This begs the question why you 'protest' [too much?!] about less Russians going abroad...












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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2016, 10:08:15 AM »
Shops with Chinese speaking staff and whole stores dedicated to Chinese shoppers have been common in Europe for years. As I've mentioned before when I was on vacation in Europe with my ex we heard Chinese being spoken by customers and staff in many stores.

If Chinese speaking staff in retail stores in Moscow is a new phenomenon in Moscow in 2016 then Moscow retailers are far behind the curve.   
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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2016, 10:11:35 AM »
Shops with Chinese speaking staff and whole stores dedicated to Chinese shoppers have been common in Europe for years. As I've mentioned before when I was on vacation in Europe with my ex we heard Chinese being spoken by customers and staff in many stores.

If Chinese speaking staff in retail stores in Moscow is a new phenomenon in Moscow in 2016 then Moscow retailers are far behind the curve.

Was your ex-wife fluent in Chinese?
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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2016, 10:31:22 AM »
OK...sone homework for you..

In your dreams, son. Do your own research.

I visit China and talk to people. You should try mixing with some middle class folk on your travels. Not everyone is as impecunious as you.
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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2016, 10:35:22 AM »




The thing about downturns, is they do not affect everyone. There are plenty of Chinese still traveling and spending; as there are Russians elsewhere.



Chinese visitors are DOWN in Thailand this year over 2014. This is the assessment of locals in the biz..but if you are patient..I am certain the published figures will back me up.

Downturns in Russia and China ..or any where mean... less confidence.. less holidays abroad....right ?



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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2016, 10:39:54 AM »
OK...sone homework for you..

In your dreams, son. Do your own research.

I visit China and talk to people. You should try mixing with some middle class folk on your travels. Not everyone is as impecunious as you.

Damn, I had to look that up to be certain... :laugh:
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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2016, 01:44:22 PM »
I think Westcoast, among the many places he has never been to, has never been to Europe.

The vision of Europe as home to a slew of retailers oriented toward Chinese tourists is a phenomenon with which this traveler is entirely unaware.

Of course, if I want to buy some Peking Duck then there are outlets that specialise in requisites for the restaurant trade but a version of Harrods in Chinese or an Oriental Stockmann, nope, not so much.

Westcoast, where do you get these funny ideas? Are you using moby, the forum indigent person, as a source?

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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2016, 01:56:17 PM »
I think Westcoast, among the many places he has never been to, has never been to Europe.

The vision of Europe as home to a slew of retailers oriented toward Chinese tourists is a phenomenon with which this traveler is entirely unaware.

Of course, if I want to buy some Peking Duck then there are outlets that specialise in requisites for the restaurant trade but a version of Harrods in Chinese or an Oriental Stockmann, nope, not so much.

Westcoast, where do you get these funny ideas? Are you using moby, the forum indigent person, as a source?

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Re: Russia moves to embrace more Chinese visitors and shoppers
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2016, 02:42:11 PM »
I think Westcoast, among the many places he has never been to, has never been to Europe.

The vision of Europe as home to a slew of retailers oriented toward Chinese tourists is a phenomenon with which this traveler is entirely unaware.

Of course, if I want to buy some Peking Duck then there are outlets that specialise in requisites for the restaurant trade but a version of Harrods in Chinese or an Oriental Stockmann, nope, not so much.

Westcoast, where do you get these funny ideas? Are you using moby, the forum indigent person, as a source?

Andy must I school you in how business works in the UK? You claim to be British yet know so little of your own country. My ex and I travelled to the UK often and she (born and raised in China) had little trouble getting service in Chinese in places such as Harrods. Ten or twelve years ago it was just Chinese speaking staff that larger London stores offered.

Today, stores such as Harrods target Chinese customers because of their greater numbers and greater spending power in London. IMHO Paris is ahead of London, and has had stores catering to Japanese and Chinese customers for at least the last decade.

You really should be embarrassed that a foreigner has to tell you how business works in the UK.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-25/americans-exit-harrods-top-10-as-chinese-flock-to-london-store

http://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/fashion-watches/article/1313904/harrods-targets-chinese-consumers
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