Young women? The Fountain of Youth for old coots?

[Maxx]

How about a little bit of honesty here?

I've always suspected that men in their 40s 50s and 60s (70s?) that pursue women in their 20s have a case of low testosterone. That it takes the chance to get some young tail to get them to rise to the occasion. They certainly can't be thinking long term. I mean what of 10 or 20 years from now when their still hot wives will be called upon to help them to the bathroom and wipe their old wrinkled butts? Of course that won't happen because their hot wives will have bailed on them years ago.

Frankly you guys need to grow up. Find a woman 40 plus with grown children and better yet grandchildren. Someone with flagging energy levels to match your own. Some crows feet along her eyes and stretch marks on her breasts and popkas are a plus. Less likely they'll be looking at the liver spots forming on your hands. You need someone who recognizes she is getting old and is wise enough to stop looking for the fountain of youth in some relationship like some of you old fools.

In case you haven't noticed. There are tons of RW in their 40s, 50 and 60s that are hotter than any of us deserve. When I'm ready that is where I'll be looking. My 2500 post.

[andrewfi]

I don't know about low testosterone but I do know that a working definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting to get a different result 'this time'!

[Dogsoldier]

Is being 40 or 50 something considered old these days? 

[Gipsy]

Is being 40 or 50 something considered old these days? 

A man is only as old as the woman whose company he is "enjoying"

[andrewfi]

The honest and self aware man is fully aware that to a a person in their early 20's 30 is middle aged and mid 30's is positively antedeluvian.

That's not to say that many young women don't enjoy a fling with a solvent,  well socialised and decent looking older man. Many women regard this as a part of their growth as a person. Of those only a very small minority can envisage a long term relationship with such a person.

It can be safely inferred that a person who has been unsuccessful over a period spanning many years or even decades probably lacks one or more attributes that make him attractive to the women that he seeks.

So,  yes,  to a 22 year old woman a man of 40 or 50 is ancient.

Reality is a bugger, eh?

[Gipsy]

The honest and self aware man is fully aware that to a a person in their early 20's 30 is middle aged and mid 30's is positively antedeluvian.

That's not to say that many young women don't enjoy a fling with a solvent,  well socialised and decent looking older man. Many women regard this as a part of their growth as a person. Of those only a very small minority can envisage a long term relationship with such a person.

It can be safely inferred that a person who has been unsuccessful over a period spanning many years or even decades probably lacks one or more attributes that make him attractive to the women that he seeks.

So,  yes,  to a 22 year old woman a man of 40 or 50 is ancient.

Reality is a bugger, eh?

I will have to ask my girlfriend the question..   

[andrewfi]

I am sure that she will have something flattering and reasonable to say to you, after all she has already made the choice that most women reject and you were able to offer that which she sought.

I am sure that if your search had taken decades with no positive outcome, a period of time covering your late 30's to mid 50's that, as a rational man, you'd have altered your modus operandum, to suit your situation at that time.

[Gipsy]

I am sure that she will have something flattering and reasonable to say to you, after all she has already made the choice that most women reject and you were able to offer that which she sought.

Err, yes, but don't tell my wife 

I am sure that if your search had taken decades with no positive outcome, a period of time covering your late 30's to mid 50's that, as a rational man, you'd have altered your modus operandum, to suit your situation at that time.

Any Friday/Saturday evening spent in a local night club/café/bar/restaurant was/is always a success. here or elsewhere for that matter.   

[andrewfi]

I am sure that even those who have been unable to find a 22 year old woman willing to marry them have not had much problem finding short term companionship. There's a difference though isn't there.

However, even finding the short term companionship does not get easier with age,  no matter how much we choose to delude ourselves.

[Wiz]

Any body remembers "Turbo" who married his wife with 37 Years age difference and they are still happily married?

In reply to the comments made by MaXX, I like to ask him if he knows to tell me, ... How the Marathon runners prepare themselves and manage to run the 27 Miles distance?

by Maxx

Frankly you guys need to grow up. Find a woman 40 plus with grown children and better yet grandchildren. Someone with flagging energy levels to match your own. Some crows feet along her eyes and stretch marks on her breasts and popkas are a plus. Less likely they'll be looking at the liver spots forming on your hands. You need someone who recognizes she is getting old and is wise enough to stop looking for the fountain of youth in some relationship like some of you old fools.

It is obvious that you are trying to encourage your self to accept the inevitable failure. Well now you have 2500 posts and its time to make a move. You had plenty of practice on the board!

It's a fact of life. Some men have it and some don't, and while you were adding to your post count, they went out and smelled the flowers.

Most of us finally we found the one that ticked all the boxes!

[andrewfi]

And wiz,  your missus, not 22 is she? Not when you met her or  wed her?

Look, there's always an outlier, an exception proving the rule, but the reality is that for most, nearly all old guys - blokes in their middle years or older finding a 22 year old Bird willing to help him cast his spunk into the future simply isn't going to happen.

Why do blokes who have themselves proven the lie to the fantasy insist on deluding others?
It ain't hard, tell the truth; some blokes seem to succeed, fewer actually do,  notwithstanding their most ardent hopes, and most sensible, realistic and honest people end up with wonderful partners in generationally appropriate relationships.

[leslied]

My wife was 26 when I met her and I was 20 years older.  14+ years later we are still together and have 2 talented daughters.

Ever since we married the "Advice Sirens"  have intoned negative comments:  "you bought a young wife", "it won't last", "she will leave you for a younger (or wealthier) guy"

Well it has not happened yet and in my judgment we will be married until death do us part.

Strange but true my wife's father was 16 years older than her mother - but she died first. 

No accounting for Karma is there 

[AKA Luke]

My wife was 26 when I met her and I was 20 years older.  14+ years later we are still together and have 2 talented daughters.

Ever since we married the "Advice Sirens"  have intoned negative comments:  "you bought a young wife", "it won't last", "she will leave you for a younger (or wealthier) guy"

Well it has not happened yet and in my judgment we will be married until death do us part.

Strange but true my wife's father was 16 years older than her mother - but she died first. 

No accounting for Karma is there 

How many decades were you searching for?

[Gipsy]

My wife was 26 when I met her and I was 20 years older.  14+ years later we are still together and have 2 talented daughters.

Ever since we married the "Advice Sirens"  have intoned negative comments:  "you bought a young wife", "it won't last", "she will leave you for a younger (or wealthier) guy"

Well it has not happened yet and in my judgment we will be married until death do us part.

Strange but true my wife's father was 16 years older than her mother - but she died first. 

No accounting for Karma is there 

Good on ye..   

[andrewfi]

And look at the care and attention to detail that went into your mutual choice.

How many others have done the same things?

Plus, I think we can agree that for most women a life with a reasonably solvent,  healthy, physically attractive bloke with no debilitating character flaws able to,  after a while,  offer a nice resort based lifestyle in congenial, sun-kissed, surroundings has advantages over what most men can offer and share,  yes?

And yes,  i know that you did not instantly end up where you are now,  but I think we might agree that most folks would perceive that a decent lifestyle was in the offing back then. You had track record and what I call 'wealth in depth' that showed you were not an overspending, socially handicapped, credit lumbered, arriviste.

[Steveboy]

I see the same stuff every day 60/70 year olds chasing 22 year olds. The funny thing is most are so disillusioned with things they actually think they have something to offer

I think 15/20 years difference is no big deal but much depends on your own mentality and personality. Some guys who are pushing 50 can easily be mistaken for a 65 year old!Who wants to be shacked up with some guy fifty years old who's only entertainment is night out at the WI hall 

My wife is 20 years younger than myself. I still feel in my twenties Im just as happy going to a classy restaurant for the evening as getting up on the table at some club to dance
Probably goes with my warped sense of humour..

[Maxx]

Wiz, I didn't have you in mind when I posted this thread. I'll comment more tomorrow after a good night's sleep. Good night all. 

[leslied]

How many decades were you searching for?

Seriously searching for a wife.  About 3.5 years.

Vacationing in FSU to have fun, maybe 6 years before that.

[AKA Luke]

How many decades were you searching for?

Seriously searching for a wife.  About 3.5 years.

Vacationing in FSU to have fun, maybe 6 years before that.

It was a tongue in cheek comment 

[Bond226]

New to the forum... But seems to be lots of valid points based on individual needs.  I'm now married to a wonderful Belarus woman 14 years younger.  I'm 40, but found FSU women my age kind of too set in their ways and a major drag. Most guys are immature forever, so why not date younger.  My wife happens to also be a mom, which seems to be the international factor of becoming becoming unselfish.  It was for me too when I had a child with my former wife. 

[leslied]

And look at the care and attention to detail that went into your mutual choice.

How many others have done the same things?

Plus, I think we can agree that for most women a life with a reasonably solvent,  healthy, physically attractive bloke with no debilitating character flaws able to,  after a while,  offer a nice resort based lifestyle in congenial, sun-kissed, surroundings has advantages over what most men can offer and share,  yes?

And yes,  i know that you did not instantly end up where you are now,  but I think we might agree that most folks would perceive that a decent lifestyle was in the offing back then. You had track record and what I call 'wealth in depth' that showed you were not an overspending, socially handicapped, credit lumbered, arriviste.

I agree with all the above Andrew.  Sorry not to reply sooner. I missed your comment.

The most important part is mutual choice and making sure you have a genuine relationship which works for you both.  We both shared a vision of the future which involved raising a family.  I think that was the foundation.

[Steveboy]

Of course most of these 22 year old women are still virgins and sat at home all day and every day just waiting for old gramps to come riding in on his horse to save her.

How ever beautiful she is she will be turning all the local guys down just waiting for gramps.

She will have no social life , no phone, her Skype will have a broken camera

 

[andrewfi]

Yes, Les, you made sure you had a solid foundation, things and ideas that you shared. I don't think that family and kids are the only foundations but for sure the unit has a core and foundation or it falls.

That's kinda the problem with the fantasists seeking an unlikely match. What do a grandpa and girl young enough to be his granddaughter share? Not much.

Of course there's exceptions and,  as we see,  some blokes modify their goals to accommodate a much more shallow foundation. The sad thing is that if they slacken just one constraint they can have what they can not get otherwise.

I guess that honesty comes into the picture here. Are we honest with the bloke in the mirror?

[Turboguy]

Any body remembers "Turbo" who married his wife with 37 Years age difference and they are still happily married?

Humm, the way you worded the first part of that almost makes it sound like I died or the like.  I don't post much anymore but still do visit with some regularity.  I just don't get too interested in the political topics or the arguing.

The last part of the sentence does make it sound like I am still kicking anyway.  Just to set the record totally straight it is 37 1/2 years difference and as you know we just had our 8th anniversary and both seem to be very happy.  The nice thing too is that I can still wipe my own ass. 

That being said I do think that most people are making a better choice when they don't go after such a big age gap.  Wiz was very wise in marrying a women who is very compatible with him and where there isn't a big age difference.  Most would be wise to do as Wiz did.  Still there are marriages with a large age gap that works out fine.  I do think that way back when life in the FSU was tougher than it is today a lot of young women were looking more for a ticket out and would marry someone to have a better life with the idea that once they got out and got on their own they would split.  These days I don't think the women are as desperate for an escape. 

There are women who like an older man.  Part may be because they are more settled and will appreciate a young wife and treat them well.  Some just like the maturity.  I can think back to the 21 year old I spent 3 1/2 years with starting when I was 45.  She wanted me to dye my hair gray so I would look older.  Of course there are far more that look at someone 20 or more years older as an old dude they would't give the time of day to. 

It really just boils down to finding someone you are comparable with and who you can happily build a life with.  That most often may be someone closer to your age since you would have more in common but sometimes you can find a younger woman who is very compatible.  For most not going after a big age difference is a smart move.

[Anteros]

Any body remembers "Turbo" who married his wife with 37 Years age difference and they are still happily married?

Humm, the way you worded the first part of that almost makes it sound like I died or the like.  I don't post much anymore but still do visit with some regularity.  I just don't get too interested in the political topics or the arguing.

The last part of the sentence does make it sound like I am still kicking anyway.  Just to set the record totally straight it is 37 1/2 years difference and as you know we just had our 8th anniversary and both seem to be very happy.  The nice thing too is that I can still wipe my own ass.

I'm glad that you cleared that part up.  You should post a bit more often.