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Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« on: July 12, 2015, 07:46:59 AM »

About staying here after retirement. I have been observing people that are my peers and how they are doing with that. It is not a pretty site. Government is in and out of their lives constantly. If not the government directly it is institutions such as banks, schools and particulary healthcare that are complicating their lives with government mandated documentation and requests.

Move to Eastern Europe (after retirement) - preferably to newer EU members; lets' pray we all remain in considerably good health (as our health care can't compare to yours), given that condition, i believe it's way better to spend late(r) years over here than there.

That is exactly what I am planning to do. I leave in about 3 months. My Social Security starts in 10 days, $1,711 a month (tax free). With that and my other assets I figure I can live quite comfortably over there. I had a complete exam for my health including an expensive test for my heart (lexi-scan MRI). I check out 100% in the positive.

I am making plans to live in Tbilisi, Georgia. I have some contacts there in the expat community. I want to get aclimated living abroad. From there I am going to explore the region. My list includes, Armenia, Moldova, Albania, Monte Negro and Slovokia. I might make some trips into Romania, Poland and Ukraine. My needs are simple so I figure I can rent small apartments or stay at hostles for short visits.

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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2015, 09:29:05 AM »
Best wishes to you in your move Maxx. My apologies for flying off the handle and using un-gentlemanly language as there are ladies that read this too. It's not like me but I am so utterly infuriated with the way this country is going down the toilet.

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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2015, 12:19:16 PM »

That is exactly what I am planning to do. I leave in about 3 months. My Social Security starts in 10 days, $1,711 a month (tax free). With that and my other assets I figure I can live quite comfortably over there. I had a complete exam for my health including an expensive test for my heart (lexi-scan MRI). I check out 100% in the positive.

I am making plans to live in Tbilisi, Georgia. I have some contacts there in the expat community. I want to get aclimated living abroad. From there I am going to explore the region. My list includes, Armenia, Moldova, Albania, Monte Negro and Slovokia. I might make some trips into Romania, Poland and Ukraine. My needs are simple so I figure I can rent small apartments or stay at hostles for short visits.

I am so glad you know expat community in Georgia! I know of that plan and there is one thing i didn't want to say, so not to be Debbie Downer: Georgian can be quite closed as a community, before you get to know them (and terribly jealous of their women, like ours.) So, i am glad you already have friends who'll introduce you around. I'll pm you my whereabouts, when you are in Monte, you must come visit, my family will be glad for you to be our guest (more so that in your political views you agree with my father, so you two will have a lot to talk about and i- as a nice Monte 'gal - will shut up and serve food   :laugh:)
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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2015, 12:25:43 PM »

They are called nursing homes here. 4 years ago when my mother had a stroke she stayed in one for a few weeks. Inspite of the efforts to make them cheerful looking they are very depressing places. It is sad to see all these white haired old people all shriveled up alone and waiting to die. I could see that being me in 20 years or so. Another reason to move abroad and establish a life there and a new family.

It won't happen, you'll have a huge Georgian family! 

3 years ago my mother was told she had six months to a year to live. She lives in a rather nice and roomy 2 bedroom single level townhouse. The family including myself takes turns caring for her. She does not want to wind up in a nursing home. She has instuctions on the refrigerator door to the emergency people to not revive her if her heart finally goes. It is signed by her doctor. Also in the refrigeratior in the freezer section is her papers for her paid for cremation. Her ashes are to be interned at the Fort Snelling cemetary next to my father.   

I am so glad your mom beat what doctors said! It is sometimes difficult, like, i can't go on vacation now because mother is at a health resort and i am looking after dad (he is in good health thanks goodness, but spoiled, can't cook for himself or whatsoever  (:) ) I get up very early to iron his clothes for the day, i bring him breakfast and newspapers to bed etc. - it might seem weird to someone from the west, but we are thought to look like that after our men (father, brothers, husband and sons too). I don't mind, i owe it to him  :)
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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2015, 12:26:34 PM »
Best wishes to you in your move Maxx. My apologies for flying off the handle and using un-gentlemanly language as there are ladies that read this too. It's not like me but I am so utterly infuriated with the way this country is going down the toilet.

Guppy, you are a hot-blooded Hungarian gentleman, we know you and we like you  :)
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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2015, 12:50:29 PM »
Best wishes to you in your move Maxx. My apologies for flying off the handle and using un-gentlemanly language as there are ladies that read this too. It's not like me but I am so utterly infuriated with the way this country is going down the toilet.
Yes, and many of your peers are coming to Canada. And not just for medicare. :)

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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2015, 01:12:48 PM »

About staying here after retirement. I have been observing people that are my peers and how they are doing with that. It is not a pretty site. Government is in and out of their lives constantly. If not the government directly it is institutions such as banks, schools and particulary healthcare that are complicating their lives with government mandated documentation and requests.

Move to Eastern Europe (after retirement) - preferably to newer EU members; lets' pray we all remain in considerably good health (as our health care can't compare to yours), given that condition, i believe it's way better to spend late(r) years over here than there.

That is exactly what I am planning to do. I leave in about 3 months. My Social Security starts in 10 days, $1,711 a month (tax free). With that and my other assets I figure I can live quite comfortably over there. I had a complete exam for my health including an expensive test for my heart (lexi-scan MRI). I check out 100% in the positive.

I am making plans to live in Tbilisi, Georgia. I have some contacts there in the expat community. I want to get aclimated living abroad. From there I am going to explore the region. My list includes, Armenia, Moldova, Albania, Monte Negro and Slovokia. I might make some trips into Romania, Poland and Ukraine. My needs are simple so I figure I can rent small apartments or stay at hostles for short visits.

I know we have had our differences in the past but I truly wish you the best of luck. You are living the dream, Maxx!

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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2015, 01:41:19 PM »
Best wishes to you in your move Maxx. My apologies for flying off the handle and using un-gentlemanly language as there are ladies that read this too. It's not like me but I am so utterly infuriated with the way this country is going down the toilet.
Yes, and many of your peers are coming to Canada. And not just for medicare. :)

I think everyone thinks that of their respective countries ( i per one do of mine  :duh:), luckily the history mostly proves us wrong  :)
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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2015, 03:14:50 PM »

About staying here after retirement. I have been observing people that are my peers and how they are doing with that. It is not a pretty site. Government is in and out of their lives constantly. If not the government directly it is institutions such as banks, schools and particulary healthcare that are complicating their lives with government mandated documentation and requests.

Move to Eastern Europe (after retirement) - preferably to newer EU members; lets' pray we all remain in considerably good health (as our health care can't compare to yours), given that condition, i believe it's way better to spend late(r) years over here than there.

That is exactly what I am planning to do. I leave in about 3 months. My Social Security starts in 10 days, $1,711 a month (tax free). With that and my other assets I figure I can live quite comfortably over there. I had a complete exam for my health including an expensive test for my heart (lexi-scan MRI). I check out 100% in the positive.

I am making plans to live in Tbilisi, Georgia. I have some contacts there in the expat community. I want to get aclimated living abroad. From there I am going to explore the region. My list includes, Armenia, Moldova, Albania, Monte Negro and Slovokia. I might make some trips into Romania, Poland and Ukraine. My needs are simple so I figure I can rent small apartments or stay at hostles for short visits.

I know we have had our differences in the past but I truly wish you the best of luck. You are living the dream, Maxx!

Thanks Boris and my apologies for the things I posted that went over the line.

  My life is about to start new so my goal is to start it in such a way that makes it both interesting and secure. Few people are positioned to do what I want to do. Most have entanglements. I started shedding those back in 2008. Got rid of the house before the crash. I closed down my business and transfered it to my former client last year. No debts, no expensive car to have a need for insurance on, no dog, no cat, no goldfish, no girlfriend, grown daughters with lives of their own and no Obamacare. Zero financial obligations that need money to service. Whatever money I have or get does not need to be sent home. Everything is liquid and unemcumbered. I've just got a few months of tying up some loose ends and I'm off.   

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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2015, 04:10:00 PM »
I am making plans to live in Tbilisi, Georgia.

Out of interest, why did you choose that location, Maxx?
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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2015, 05:35:27 PM »
I am making plans to live in Tbilisi, Georgia.

Out of interest, why did you choose that location, Maxx?

Hi Manny. I'm glad you split the thread.  Perhaps this post could be floated to the top?

Back in 2007 I was in Washington DC doing a film on MOBs. One of the women we interviewed, Bella, was an elderly Russian widow of a Georgian artist. Everytime I or my crew would enter her house she insisted we sit at the kitchen table and be served a Georgian meal. It was always quite a spread. It was explained to me that Bella did this to honor her late husband's Georgian tradition of hospitality. Even if the postman set his foot in the door he would get the same treatment. I thought it was amusing.

When I started to investigate on possible places to live I noticed Georgia had the most liberal visa policy of them all. No need for a visa and stay up to 360 days. Then just exit the country and get another 360 days. In fact if you overstay the fine is small and they don't even make you pay it if you leave. You just got to pay it when you enter again. It's like $40. So it seems that this was indicator that Georgia is a hospitable place.

I got on a website of Westerners who teach English to Georgian school children. They work in a Georgian government program called 'TLG Teach and Learn with Georgia'. www.tlg.gov.ge/ The posters there said that Georgian hospitality is very real. They both the men and the women were constantly being invited into peoples homes to get the Bella treatment. One commented that Georgian society is like in the movie "My Big Fat Greek Wedding." I liked that family.

Then I found this

www.nomadcapitalist.com/?s=georgia  top article
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But that does mean anyone can bank, do business or live here. If you're a westerner they'll welcome you with open arms








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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2015, 09:05:28 PM »
Best wishes to you in your move Maxx. My apologies for flying off the handle and using un-gentlemanly language as there are ladies that read this too. It's not like me but I am so utterly infuriated with the way this country is going down the toilet.

Guppy, you are a hot-blooded Hungarian gentleman, we know you and we like you  :)
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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2015, 03:00:02 AM »

About staying here after retirement. I have been observing people that are my peers and how they are doing with that. It is not a pretty site. Government is in and out of their lives constantly. If not the government directly it is institutions such as banks, schools and particulary healthcare that are complicating their lives with government mandated documentation and requests.

Move to Eastern Europe (after retirement) - preferably to newer EU members; lets' pray we all remain in considerably good health (as our health care can't compare to yours), given that condition, i believe it's way better to spend late(r) years over here than there.

That is exactly what I am planning to do. I leave in about 3 months. My Social Security starts in 10 days, $1,711 a month (tax free). With that and my other assets I figure I can live quite comfortably over there. I had a complete exam for my health including an expensive test for my heart (lexi-scan MRI). I check out 100% in the positive.

I am making plans to live in Tbilisi, Georgia. I have some contacts there in the expat community. I want to get aclimated living abroad. From there I am going to explore the region. My list includes, Armenia, Moldova, Albania, Monte Negro and Slovokia. I might make some trips into Romania, Poland and Ukraine. My needs are simple so I figure I can rent small apartments or stay at hostles for short visits.

Good man :)
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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2015, 04:48:18 AM »
Maxx,

I also wish you good luck.

If I was to visit 'Abkhazia' - by entering from the RU border - I could be fined or imprisoned  :chuckle:

I adore Georgian food and wine - but have never BEEN there... I have seen the Georgian Ballet in Cyprus - If any one gets the chance - see it


Georgia is a 4 hour boat ride from Sochi - I hope we may meet up when I'm here


Has anyone - other than 2tallbill been there...


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Re: Maxx's Relocation to Tbilisi, Georgia.
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2015, 09:30:51 AM »

Last night I bought a very select portion of Chinese food. Along with it came a fortune cooking saying, "A ship in harbor is safe, but that's not why ships are built." I opened the mailbox today and in it was an envelope with my 52 page passport. I got one of the double page ones as I figure I'll be doing a lot traveling. I'm about to order my tickets. I'll be leaving in 10 weeks. More and more things are  looking like reality.