President Trump

[AvHdB]

So what is the opinions on this regarding Trump?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/13/trump-zte-china-sanctions-korea-iran-584244

[BillyB]

Keep drinking the kool-aid Billy. Iraq, Libya, Syria...

My Kool Aid makes me believe the American flag isn't planted in those countries. Your Kool Aid tells you America wants to conquer the world.  Every modern president wanted to conquer the world. Secret societies want to conquer the world. Many of those guys are dead. JFK, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush HW, Clinton, Bush W, Obama, and Trump have or will die without achieving the goal of conquering the world. Has it ever occurred to you none of them had the goal of conquering the world?

It is very clear that your are completely brainwashed by your MSM and TV and have no hope in hell to get out of it!

I watched tv a few days ago. It was the first time I watched tv in 3 months and I don't turn it on for the news. Your analysis is as wrong as the news sources you read and watch.

  Hello Billy,  life must be good these days if you're willing to spend time talking to the guys who think Putin is the man of reason.

Life is good and I enjoy the amusement I'm reading.

Anyway Billy enjoy the head banging on the table.

I'm sure you had your fun. My turn to bang my head.

So what is the opinions on this regarding Trump?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/13/trump-zte-china-sanctions-korea-iran-584244

Trump is going to win the trade war with China. Both nations already have people at the table talking to each other. Trump must feel good about how things are going to turn out since he's all for saving a major Chinese company and 70,000 Chinese jobs. President Xi will reciprocate. Getting better trade deals, making policy that makes the American economy stronger, getting peace on the Korean peninsula and probably will get a better Iran nuke deal will get Trump re elected.

[Wiz]

Billy said

Most of the countries in the world that are prosperous and worth invading are in NATO. Why would America force them in?

We don't have a dictator running America that is trying to start WWIII. We change presidents often and they each have different views and want peace, not war.

Because America wants to keep world peace, it may be the reason we have a lot of friends. If nations feel Russia is a better to be friends with, they can invite Russian troops into their nation to help with security. Ask Ukraine how that worked out for them.

DON, with so many contacts of your "Willy waver" times in Ukraine, I am sure you can get/have a good picture of the putsch results organised by the CIA, Victoria Nulan (we spent $5 Billions and F.u.c.k EU), Geoffrey Pyatt (CIA agent) and the Fascist John McCain have achieved over there!

All the above persons. I mentioned. are in the photo including the leaders of the fascist putsch!

Did you know that Yanukovych. with the deal he made for the Russian Bases in Crimea, to  extend the lease to 2044, Ukraine was paying $50 per 1000 cm and now they have to import it from Germany paying $390 per 1000 cm?

Are you aware that before the US action to destabilise Ukraine in 2014, Ukraine was exporting 90% of its good to Russia?

Today, because of the US/Mossad actions, Ukraine is an impoverished, destroyed, criminal  and  a failed state! 

Ask your previous "Women friends" how they survive and then start lecturing us. My local friend and family had to move to another country....to survive.

Hello Billy,  life must be good these days if you're willing to spend time talking to the guys who think Putin is the man of reason. I don't post much here, can't be bothered, but it does make for a few moments of interest seeing how some of these guys get it so wrong. They devour the Russian propaganda like a kid eats KD with ketchup.

Oblivious to the facts and history that is readily available to them. Does America    up at times? Sure, but they are relied upon by the democracies around the world to act on various situations. Iraq just held a national election. It didn't go as smooth as a Canadian election, but they had it. American and the UK made huge blunders, but the Iraqi people are moving towards a future free of ruthless dictators.

Anyway Billy enjoy the head banging on the table.

You have never been interested in politics, all the years I know you, only.... pussycats for your best friend and it's clear you are wearing blinkers, due to your ignorance and uninterest in politics.

At least BillyB has the courage to debate and express his views....... unlike you!

Time for you to go outside and clear the snow from your drive. 

 

[Wiz]

So what is the opinions on this regarding Trump?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/13/trump-zte-china-sanctions-korea-iran-584244

We wouldn't expect any different behaviour from the Mafia Don!

Soon or later somebody will release some interesting info about his actions and behaviour and make him look like .......
you choose the epithet.

 

[Wiz]

DONALD TRUMP’S NEOCON CONVERSION WAS PREDICTABLE

During the election, I wrote a little ebook titled “Donald Trump’s War on Islam.” In addition to pointing out Trump’s pandering to Islamophobia, I wrote about his association with a number of neocons, including Frank Gaffney and John Bolton, who is now his national security adviser. “I think John Bolton’s a good man,” Trump told the Hugh Hewitt Show.

“I watched him yesterday, actually, and he was very good in defending me in some of my views, and very, very strong. And I’ve always liked John Bolton. Well, we are thinking about it, Hugh [nominating Bolton as secretary of state]. I will say that. We are thinking about it. I mean, the negative is what I told you. But we are seriously thinking about it.”

That didn’t fly because Congress would never vote to approve Bolton, same as they wouldn’t approve his nomination as ambassador to the United Nations during the reign of Bush. Instead, he assumed the role of national security adviser, a position that doesn’t require congressional approval.

In August 2016, when I published my ebook, I had no idea just how far Trump would go. He is now almost entirely in the neocon camp and Zionist sheep dipped—although the hardline neocons like Bill Kristol and Max Boot stubbornly reject him, mostly because he is an outlier, didn’t come up through the ranks, and is unpolished and anti-intellectual.

But it’s not merely the neocons.

It’s also the Israelis.

Bibi Netanyahu and the Likud party fanatics—hardcore Zionists—are welcomed by Trump. He has adopted their ideology, most likely as a result of the influence of his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. The Trump administration is more pro-Israel than the Bush administration. Not even George Bush and his neocons signed off on making Jerusalem the capitol of Israel.

Bush followed the lead of the neocons and destroyed Iraq—a longtime Israeli goal, along with destroying Syria, which Obama tried to accomplish, although his relationship with the Israelis was tepid at best. Instead, Obama destroyed Libya, which wasn’t a top objective of the Likudnik Israelis, not that they objected to another Muslim biting the dust.

Trump is going for the prime Likudnik objective—taking out Iran.

Iran, of course, poses absolutely no threat to America. It does, however, challenge Israel for the role as Middle East Hegemon. Because of this and its strident anti-Zionist rhetoric and ostensible support for the Palestinians, it has to be taken down.

As I wrote earlier today, we will now witness John Bolton’s Plan B—stirring up ethnic division inside Iran, directly aiding domestic groups opposed to the rule of the mullahs, and ultimately installing the wacky MEK cult as the preferred client.

The details weren’t known two years ago when I wrote my ebook—but the general outline, a rough sketch was.

It was obvious when Trump talked about torturing suspected terrorists, killing their families, stealing oil in Iraq and Syria, and in general raising hell in the Arab and Muslim Middle East, remarks that fall comfortably within the parameters of the Zionist neocon agenda.


Article posted By KURT NIMMO on 13 May 2018

[AvHdB]

Wiz, Perhaps turn your hearing aid down we can read you. BOLD CAPS 18pt is screaming on a forum, please stop. Hint and you do not have to pay for it, it defaults your post in a negative response/reception.

As I understand your post above (presently mine is #9930 and yours is #9929*) you are qouting Kurt Mimmo. You are entitled to your opinion and in some respects there is an unfortunate reality and truth in what he writes.

Just my opinion V. Nuland could not fcuk a dildo. Those who fcuked Ukrainians where there own politicians/leaders from 1990 to today.

* If a post of Moby is approved the numbering changes

[Wiz]

Wiz, Perhaps turn your hearing aid down we can read you. BOLD Right size CAPS 14pt is screaming on a forum, please stop. Hint and you do not have to pay for it, it defaults your post in a negative response/reception.

As I understand your post above (presently mine is #9930 and yours is #9929*) you are qouting Kurt Mimmo. You are entitled to your opinion and in some respects there is an unfortunate reality and truth in what he writes.

Just my opinion V. Nuland could not fcuk a dildo. Those who fcuked Ukrainians where there own politicians/leaders from 1990 to today.

* If a post of Moby is approved the numbering changes

AVHDB

I use max 14 size and not bold 18 pt like you did, for the Titles........what is your problem?

I don't use glasses and can read the default size of the fonts here very well.

The article I posted is for information and not necessary my opinions,,,, as you state but you also admits that most of what he writes are true. 

How do you know that she can't Fcuk a dildo... you were not there when she was dishing out those cookies!

It has been proven and everybody knows who was behind the Orange revolution and the 2014 Putsch. The snipers were trained for 4 years in Israel. Only you insist to ignore the facts because that is the line of the Jewish trolls.

 
 

[Wiz]

Trump's "Ridiculous" Currency Manipulation
Accusations Against China & Russia

U.S. President Donald Trump caught the attention of global foreign exchange markets on Tuesday, April 17 after he accused both Russia and China of playing "the currency devaluation game".
The accusations suggest Trump believes both nations are unfairly making their exports more cost-competitive on international markets, at the expense of U.S. exports.
He described these alleged shenanigans as being "not acceptable!” making these comments the latest in his attempt to rebalance global trade in favour of the United States.

The accusations are however problematic in that they come days after the U.S. Treasury published its latest report into foreign exchange markets which provides the analytical framework from which the U.S. is supposed to use to officially label currency manipulators.
China, Japan, South Korea, Germany, Switzerland and India are on a monitoring list which implies these currencies are under greater scrutiny.

"But as in previous years, the Treasury did not label anyone as a currency manipulator," says Thu Lan Nguyen, an analyst with Commerzbank.

It appears Trump either has chosen to ignore this report, or has his own preconceived framework.

READ MORE: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/04/16/president-trump-hits-russian-chinese-currency-devaluations/

 

[2tallbill]

I've been saying for a while that the Democrats think they lost the 2016
election because they weren't far enough to the left. A tiny segment of
voters actually support those fringe lefty ideas and policies.

The 2018 Democrats are going to lose if they run on impeaching Trump, 
free money for all and open borders. That is where they are headed today.


Democrats head to the far left in 2018 mid terms
DSA (Democratic Socialists of America)

In the Pittsburgh area, Summer Lee and Sara Innamorato, Democrats who are both members of the DSA, won primaries for state House Districts 34 and 21.

The DSA hailed the legislative victories as a huge moment for the socialist movement.

Arielle Cohen, co-chair of the Pittsburgh DSA chapter, told HuffPost that she feels a "monumental shift" after the victories, noting DSA’s growing membership since President Trump's election.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/387901-four-socialist-backed-candidates-win-pennsylvania-elections


The Democratic base overwhelmingly supports progressive positions. It's time for the party to pay attention.



https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/bjppaa/if-democrats-listened-to-their-voters-theyd-be-moving-left



Fringe liberal ideas move to front-burner for Democrats
From legal pot to guaranteed jobs, progressive ideas are drawing more attention from Democratic lawmakers — especially potential 2020 contenders.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/liberal-ideas-move-fringe-front-burner-democrats-n873516


New Study Finds Democrats Moving Left, Driving Growing Partisan Gap
http://freebeacon.com/politics/new-study-finds-democrats-moving-left-driving-growing-partisan-gap/

[dcguyusa]

Still, Tillerson warned that obscuring the truth would lead America to become like "Russia, China, Iran or North Korea." It is only by “fierce defense of the truth and common sets of facts that we create the conditions for a Democratic, free society comprised of richly diverse peoples,”

After Tillerson's speech, some journalists took to Twitter the former secretary of state a hypocrite, accusing him of purposefully obscuring the truth while working for Trump.

The truth is out there .  {X-files}   

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-tillerson-american-democracy-crisis-930004

[AvHdB]

It seems that Rex Tillerson is the most respectable 'member' of the Team Trump.

[Jerash]

Poor Jerash

That questioning mind has been consuming the stable diet of Russian TV news.

Suggest taking a trip through the more recent NATO members.

Then there's Finland that would like to join...Georgia....and now Ukraine..... (Montenegro?)

You've got to be joking me.  I think you know that my Russian isn't anywhere near good enough to digest the TV news.  That's why my TV is normally off and if it's on, it's on a sports or a music channel.  Only a full-on anti-Russian troll would make such a comment when he would know much better if only he had the intelligence to know. 

[msmoby]

You've got to be joking me.  I think you know that my Russian isn't anywhere near good enough to digest the TV news.

..OK, so you read the Eng lang versions of same... Your Russian is improving FAST, BTW

Only a full-on anti-Russian troll would make such a comment when he would know much better if only he had the intelligence to know. 

Ah, so you couldn't actually counter my points re nations wanting to join NATO - nothing but but the std "Moby is 'anti-Russian' - for pointing out the twilight zone that is present day Kremlin 'politics' / away-games in third nations.

It will be interesting to see if my post sees the light of day - given the Soviet -style editing here

[Tom Cat]

Newest polls have moved the Republican candidates to a slight advantage in the midterm election 
With all the bombshell announcements of alleged crimes committed by the  Obama administration the Republican party could easily hold 60 seats in the Senate come November 

[Contrarian]

President Trump pardons a boxer and cancels the summit with North Korea.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/trump-pardons-late-boxer-jack-johnson/ar-AAxKECB?li=BBnb7Kz


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-cancels-nuclear-summit-with-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un/ar-AAxKgR3?li=BBnb7Kz

[Tom Cat]

Russia's  massive effort to interfere in the U.S. election was a success!


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/05/24/james-clappers-bombshell-russia-swung-the-election-what-if-hes-right/?utm_term=.9a12130b3b80

[dcguyusa]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-calls-off-meeting-135044611.html

There goes the Nobel Peace Prize.   

[AvHdB]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-calls-off-meeting-135044611.html

There goes the Nobel Peace Prize.   

I suspect this is a 'dance' where the music has not ended. (At least that is what I hope.)

[Tom Cat]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-calls-off-meeting-135044611.html

There goes the Nobel Peace Prize.   

I suspect this is a 'dance' where the music has not ended. (At least that is what I hope.)

North Korea has already expressed continued interest in  resuming  talks, and meeting with President Trump.

[Donhollio]

The wiz said,
"You have never been interested in politics, all the years I know you, only.... pussycats for your best friend and it's clear you are wearing blinkers, due to your ignorance and uninterest in politics.

At least BillyB has the courage to debate and express his views....... unlike you!

Time for you to go outside and clear the snow from your drive."

 Debate? Debate what with whom? Anyone with an appreciation for democracy would clearly see Putin's Russia is anything but a desired world power. If you think it's fine to bomb children in peices, poison others and muzzle the media, then there is no point debating anything. Putin's puppets here think it's fine to block the democratic process , and have them conquer lamd for expandibg the country bit by bit.
 Here's a history lesson, he's taking tips from Hitler. Major differences are that Hitler wasn't after building his personal wealth, and Putin has no interest in starting any major wars. Being a former KGB he does things to undermine and antagonize democratic nations. It's plain to see if one wasn't sleeping with a spouse from that country. 
 I think my hour is up.

[Contrarian]

The wiz said,
"You have never been interested in politics, all the years I know you, only.... pussycats for your best friend and it's clear you are wearing blinkers, due to your ignorance and uninterest in politics.

At least BillyB has the courage to debate and express his views....... unlike you!

Time for you to go outside and clear the snow from your drive."

 Debate? Debate what with whom? Anyone with an appreciation for democracy would clearly see Putin's Russia is anything but a desired world power. If you think it's fine to bomb children in peices, poison others and muzzle the media,

Were you talking about Putin or Bush Jr.?

In the "war on terror" Bush Jr. murdered 500,000 Iraqi civilians while muzzling the media during the Iraq war.

We sure "liberated" them didn't we?   

[Contrarian]

Unemployment is the lowest it’s been in 18 years thanks to President Trumps leadership.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/unemployment-rate-falls-to-18-year-low-solid-hiring-in-may-1527856298

[andrewfi]

Sadly, although unemployment numbers show a decline the labor force participation rate has gone down, again. There's 102 million Americans who are either unemployed or out of the labor force. The thing is that the unemployment figures are 'fudgeable' and fudged they are with all sorts of allowances and adjustments.

The participation rate includes the long-term unemployed who are automatically removed from the headline unemployment figures. Why is that a bad thing, if the unemployment rate is falling?

Here's the problem: the U.S. population is growing, the number of potential wage earners is growing. This means that the number of jobs required to use the potential labour of all those Americans needs to increase to match the population. If the participation rate falls then that means there are fewer jobs being created than there are people to do them and, over time, that leads to serious economic and social problems.

With the headline unemployment rate the fudges and fixes used mean that we can not get a real picture of the employment situation in the United States. When we look at participation rate we see that each month there are more 'real unemployed'.

Here's a couple of charts that make the problem clear:

https://bestchartnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/LFP20May202018202.jpg?itok=wxPrjH5X


https://bestchartnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/non20in20labor20force20may202018.jpg?itok=f6zZb8p8
 
The first shows us that since 2008 the economy took a kick in the nuts from which it has never recovered. This chart shows the rate of participation. The best that can be said of the late Obama/early Trump period is that there is some kind of plateauing or bottoming out in the rate but that millions of people still need jobs.

The second shows the absolute numbers, and this is the really scary one! We can see that employment simply is not meeting up with demand.

All that is happening at the moment is that real unemployment is being fudged away.

The main argument that is made against the labour force participation rate is that the 'discouraged workers' are no longer part of the labour force. Well, take a look at the first chart. Does anyone really think that in 2008 millions of people decided to never work again? Of course they didn't. What happened was that they were massaged out of the headline unemployment numbers, they still exist - somehow.

Don't go banging any drums for Trump until you see the participation rate increasing and more importantly that the raw numbers of 'people not in the labor force' go down.

[shakespear]

Sadly, although unemployment numbers show a decline the labor force participation rate has gone down, again. There's 102 million Americans who are either unemployed or out of the labor force. The thing is that the unemployment figures are 'fudgeable' and fudged they are with all sorts of allowances and adjustments.

The participation rate includes the long-term unemployed who are automatically removed from the headline unemployment figures. Why is that a bad thing, if the unemployment rate is falling?

Here's the problem: the U.S. population is growing, the number of potential wage earners is growing. This means that the number of jobs required to use the potential labour of all those Americans needs to increase to match the population. If the participation rate falls then that means there are fewer jobs being created than there are people to do them and, over time, that leads to serious economic and social problems.

With the headline unemployment rate the fudges and fixes used mean that we can not get a real picture of the employment situation in the United States. When we look at participation rate we see that each month there are more 'real unemployed'.

The main argument that is made against the labour force participation rate is that the 'discouraged workers' are no longer part of the labour force. Well, take a look at the first chart. Does anyone really think that in 2008 millions of people decided to never work again? Of course they didn't. What happened was that they were massaged out of the headline unemployment numbers, they still exist - somehow.

Don't go banging any drums for Trump until you see the participation rate increasing and more importantly that the raw numbers of 'people not in the labor force' go down.

Your analysis has merit but you need to factor in the record number of "baby boomer" retirees who are leaving the work force permanently.  That will change your conclusions significantly. 

[andrewfi]

No, it doesn't change things. If it did the charts would look different.

For your suggestion to be on point we would have to expect that the sudden dip in 2008 did not happen - see chart one. What we see there is a sudden change in the employment pattern and one that has continued. What actually happened in 2008 was a large increase in unemployment, one that has not reversed. If the economy returned to normal then we would expect there to be a change back up as the unemployed moved back into employment.

Retirees are not part of the labour force and so do not figure into the labour participation rate (and also, of course, not in the headline employment figures). Also discarded from the figures are children and a few other classes. The most significant part of those uncounted inthe headline figure is the 'discouraged'. The assumption is made that anyone who has not found work after a few months, IIRC six, is no longer part of the labour force and is therefore not counted as unemployed. Not being counted in the headline employment figures is the biggest single fudge in the figures and what makes the participation rate numbers so important.

The change in the workforce participation is due to two factors:
1) a general increase in population
2) fewer people, as a proportion of the labour, force working

The labour force participation rate is about the proportions, not the absolute numbers. We should expect, in a healthy economy, that the participation rate should remain roughly consistent - in terms of the first chart, the line should be flat(ish) and horizontal. Of course, cyclical effects on the economy will cause variations but the trend toward the horizontal should be clear. You can see that the trend since 2008 is for a big drop, a drop that actually started years before 2008 but that year was an inflection point. Over this period we have been told that the economy has been doing great - it hasn't.

As the economy grows the number of jobs should increase in order to absorb the increase in working age population -it isn't. The second chart shows that the absolute number of people of working age who are not working is increasing. That's why the second chart is more worrying than the first because a society with too many people not working tends to become unstable. It is likely that this instability is already being manifested and will get worse.

However, the numbers shown in the charts I shared demonstrates that the unemployment rate is not a good way to look at the performance of the economy in terms of jobs. It is quite likely that, in general, there is job creation happening, however, we do know from BLS and other figures that most new jobs are low value, not first income earner level places. The jobs are not being created fast enough to meet the real demand and they are not the kind of jobs that enable breadwinners to support families.

One thing to note, the unemployment figures claimed as a Trump effect are part of an economic cycle that started during Obama's tenure. Economists will usually tell us that economic cycles are not under the control of individual political administrations, they are pretty much inevitable. What economic policy can achieve is to alter the amplitude and frequency, but not the eradication of the cycles. The corollary of that is that, usually, it is fallacious for any administration to claim, for itself, perceived cyclical economic benefits that happen on its watch because the cycles, and there are several, take place over longer terms than a single administration.

To mention the unasked question here: can a government do anything to reduce the macro level effects that are driving down employment in the USA?
The answer is yes, but that can only happen if a policy is set that is then carried through over the lifetime of several administrations - or if we have a war. The first option is not likely to happen in the USA, although it did in the UK from the early 1980s, it did in China from the early 1990s and continues today. The second took place in the United States with WW2.