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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #30 on: March 13, 2015, 03:39:44 PM »
Perhaps before Manny does anything he should do some research on how many people use ad blocking software. If users can't see the ads there's not much chance they'll be using them.

Remember if Manny charges fees RUA members have other options. another forum is still quite active and I'm sure they'd welcome new members. RMP doesn't seem that active however an infusion of former RUA members might liven the place up.


Is there any possibility that you can program RUA to require forum participants to disable their blocking software in order to view the forum? 

The amount of cheap asses apparently seeking wives in the FSU shocks me.  It really does.   
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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2015, 03:56:58 PM »
Perhaps before Manny does anything he should do some research on how many people use ad blocking software. If users can't see the ads there's not much chance they'll be using them.

Remember if Manny charges fees RUA members have other options. another forum is still quite active and I'm sure they'd welcome new members. RMP doesn't seem that active however an infusion of former RUA members might liven the place up.


Is there any possibility that you can program RUA to require forum participants to disable their blocking software in order to view the forum? 

The amount of cheap asses apparently seeking wives in the FSU shocks me.  It really does.

Westy isn't seeking a wife, is just doing his trolling thing. He is changing the subject to DOARB and other stuff, and here is why:



If people preferred other sites, they would have gone there, and have stayed there. Westy is trolling, as he does. I will note that for the rich, retired Canadian banker that he claims to be, he doesn't feel the need to chip a few dollars into our playground here as others have done since the start of the topic. We even picked up a new advertiser (coming soon).

For Westy, those who use ad blocking software are very few. It manipulates the JavaScript on sites to the browser that causes slowness, and causes some functions not to work at all. As we currently have cute girls in our side bars, why wouldn't a normal (even married) guy like to take a peek at those now and again? Just because you are on a diet doesn't mean you cannot read the menu.  :P
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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #32 on: March 13, 2015, 05:57:54 PM »
One forum I use, offers ad blocking for a small donation.
I have no problem with the current ads.

Manny if you feel the changes you have implemented are not improving things?
At what point do you try something different? If you feel the costs
are getting to point of ( not worth it) how long before this site goes way of the
GG?
Options are make more changes, bring in any forum of ads you can get,
Sell it and or shut it down. I presume at this point you are considering
all and every option?

One forum I am on requested donations for premium membership.
( no extra rooms or private rooms for those members)
 But it also took those who donated and let them
be involved with direct input of site upgrades, changes, rules, etc.
Owner is trying to sell, due more to his time restraints and changing interests.
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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #33 on: March 13, 2015, 08:06:38 PM »
Perhaps before Manny does anything he should do some research on how many people use ad blocking software. If users can't see the ads there's not much chance they'll be using them.

Remember if Manny charges fees RUA members have other options. another forum is still quite active and I'm sure they'd welcome new members. RMP doesn't seem that active however an infusion of former RUA members might liven the place up.


Is there any possibility that you can program RUA to require forum participants to disable their blocking software in order to view the forum? 

The amount of cheap asses apparently seeking wives in the FSU shocks me.  It really does.

Westy isn't seeking a wife, is just doing his trolling thing. He is changing the subject to DOARB and other stuff, and here is why:



If people preferred other sites, they would have gone there, and have stayed there. Westy is trolling, as he does. I will note that for the rich, retired Canadian banker that he claims to be, he doesn't feel the need to chip a few dollars into our playground here as others have done since the start of the topic. We even picked up a new advertiser (coming soon).

For Westy, those who use ad blocking software are very few. It manipulates the JavaScript on sites to the browser that causes slowness, and causes some functions not to work at all. As we currently have cute girls in our side bars, why wouldn't a normal (even married) guy like to take a peek at those now and again? Just because you are on a diet doesn't mean you cannot read the menu.  :P

Am I seeking a FSUW? No.

As for being a troll, let's see what the definition of a troll is from Manny's own source a "self proclaimed expert". Who does that sound like? Who has repeatedly been labelled a self proclaimed expert?

That's Andrew. He's been repeatedly called a self proclaimed expert by a number of RUA members. Posting on all manner of topics from the US military, Russian military, aviation, the CIA, marriage, etc, etc. If there's a thread on any topic you can bet Andrew's the expert on that topic.

Andrew was more than willing to argue with Mendy about Russian topics despite the fact that Mendy is not only married to a RW, he also speaks the language, lives and works in Russia. And Andrew? Andrew isn't married to anyone, Russian or otherwise. Doesn't speak Russian. Doesn't live or work in Russia. Yet somehow Andrew felt he knew more than Mendy. Andrew is the classic definition of a troll.   

What about Manny? The other half of the entity we call [derogatory term removed]. Is he a troll? Let's take a look. He was more than willing to argue with Halo about the Ukrainian government's deals with its energy supplier. Halo is a lawyer (Canadian) speaks the language, lived (worked?) in Ukraine for years, is married to a FSUM. Manny OTOH, doesn't speak the language, never worked or lived in Ukraine. His claim to fame is that he's married to a RW and has a holiday home in Ukraine Estonia. I'm sure visiting Estonia a couple of times a year is the same as living in Ukraine for years.  :laugh: Once again, it seems Manny is at least close to the definition of a troll. True he doesn't fit it as well as Andrew, but then who could?  :laugh:

Manny, as for contributing a few quid to RUA's upkeep? Who would send money to someone on the Internet when their only connection to that person is some Internet posts. Isn't that rule #1? Don't send money to someone you've never met in person.
 
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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #34 on: March 13, 2015, 10:11:03 PM »
Still looking for the lifetime RUA $50 donate here to be a sustaining sponsoring supporter link...  Paypal preferred...

LOL Just searched Google for "Boston Escort Services" and came up with 800,000+ results and suggested many alternate search terms so their aversion to Adult content seems limited to what they can directly get click revenues from.

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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2015, 12:09:17 AM »
I'm biting.
Okay Cufflinks you commented on my very first posts over here, that means something.
I would say the FSUW quest is live, i'm in it so those who are not can go figure themselves.
 
Or maybe their betters? I'm curious so keep it up please
 
Разрушить всегда легче, чем построить. Обидеть проще,чем простить. И врать всегда удобней , чем поверить. А оттолкнуть намного проще, чем любить

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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2015, 03:06:43 AM »
Oh westcoast,  was your meals on wheels delivered late yesterday or did the bus that takes you to your daycare centre not arrive?

If so,  sorry and diddums but why type so many words to demonstrate the truth that we already know? We shouldn't poke the troll with a stick,  we all know it but you are such a delightfully funny specimen.

But you type so many words just to tell us that you are Westy the Troll.

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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2015, 07:20:02 AM »
So I thought I would start a topic on site funding, as it does crop up from time to time, and again today:

How does one become a supporting and or sustaining member.

That question was as a result of a query about the upload image feature having been turned off some months ago.

So I will dial back first with some history.

When the site was started way back in 2007, it was on the usual few dollars a month 'GoDaddy' shared type of hosting. After moving hosts a few times because such services are crap except for Mom and Pop type sites, traffic was such that we had to use a non-shared environment to avoid lag and downtime. That typically means private servers, dedicated servers or VPS/VDS type deals that cost more. We were hacked once or twice which necessitated off site backups (which are not free). Then we had to move the site out of the US in order to avoid DMCA's, threats of lawsuits from US agencies and other American legal silliness. So we now host in the UK.

Everyone says "Oh, hosting is dirt cheap". Yes it is, if when your site goes down you have to open a ticket, and two days later a bloke called Gupta in India replies it and says "Did you try to reboot your computer?" and then its two days till the next response.  :'(   We have a host where if something breaks, I call up, and a bloke called Brian or Geoffrey fixes it while I am on the phone. That level of service has a price tag.

In the 'golden' days of the 'mail order bride' business, which we caught the tail end of, advertisers were coming out of the walls and queuing up to pay our bills. Now the MOB business is a shadow of its former self, we find sites like the huge Aweb and former industry darlings like Elena's don't want to pay their bills to sites like this (or in the latter case need to be chased for 6 months to pay). Why you don't see their ads here any more. We used to use Google to serve ads here too, but Google classed us as an 'adult' site as there are a few photos of scantily clad ladies around the site and other unspecified 'adult' content, so they now refuse to serve ads here. As time allows, I am looking at other ad servers, including adult networks (!), but it takes time to put in place.

Meanwhile, the site trucks along full of eight years of photos and content, growing daily, costing money every month. Our image folders are *huge* and a few months ago when we were again running out of space, I suspended image uploading in order that I can manually review what images we need to keep. For example, an Obama joke image from four years ago in Off Topic on page 75 of a 500 page topic probably isn't important (we need not pay to host that). A blokes photo on a TR of the Potemkin Steps is more relevant, and that can only be done manually. So over a few months, I am up to page 751 of several thousand pages of our images.

It has always been the way that the site must be self-funding. As with any enterprise, it has to pay its own way to be viable. It also has to carry some reserves for ongoing tech work, software upgrades, new ideas, etc.

However it is done, the site needs a little bit of cash every month, generated from itself, to survive without costing me money personally. So a while back, I put a "Donate to RUA" on the ad rotator. So far, only two members have done so as a one off, and earned the heady title of "Supporting Member". I will find the direct link for anyone that wishes to throw a few coins into the bowl and post it on the topic.

But looking forward, with a shortage of advertisers that want to actually pay, and with minimal member contributions, apart from ads like "Wet Chloe Wants You Tonight on Cam" how does a site like this generate a few thousand dollars a year in order to be self funding in light of the MOB industry being on its last legs?

So, lets discuss, and I will happily answer questions.

Hey Manny, sent you some greenbacks.  :money: We appreciate you offering this forum and the chat room. Keep up the good work!
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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2015, 07:27:52 AM »
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Manny, as for contributing a few quid to RUA's upkeep? Who would send money to someone on the Internet when their only connection to that person is some Internet posts. Isn't that rule #1? Don't send money to someone you've never met in person.



This is ridiculous. You come here of your own free will, and it is Manny's online lair. You should respect it or leave. And if he treats you cruelly and without mercy for being discourteous, then that's well within his prerogative. Obviously, you find some sort of amusement in posting here, for whatever reason. What is it going to hurt you to contribute a little? This isn't a charity.
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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2015, 08:41:07 AM »
Another good question could be, how much is the site in the hole?
What are trying to raise? a profit? operating costs?
 Would enjoy answers to this and previous questions or at least a reason
why you won't answer. :)
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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2015, 08:43:09 AM »
Another good question could be, how much is the site in the hole?
What are trying to raise? a profit? operating costs?
 Would enjoy answers to this and previous questions or at least a reason
why you won't answer. :)

Christ almighty -

He did answer.  Look at post #3 in this thread.

Sometimes you guys argue like you were women. 
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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2015, 08:46:37 AM »
Another good question could be, how much is the site in the hole?
What are trying to raise? a profit? operating costs?
 Would enjoy answers to this and previous questions or at least a reason
why you won't answer. :)

Christ almighty -

He did answer.  Look at post #3 in this thread.

Sometimes you guys argue like you were women.
Wound a little tight lately?
I asked several other questions as well, maybe you didn't notice.
Wanting to understand Manny's goal is a bad thing?
Just send money is your idea??? How much, what for don't matter :chuckle:

Great I have a few ideas regarding this, but need some capital to do,
send me some money, thank you  :)
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« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2015, 08:56:57 AM »
Great I have a few ideas regarding this, but need some capital to do,
send me some money, thank you  :)

I just sent him $50 for the support of RUA.  Why?  Because he's asking for some help to maintain a pastime we all seem to enjoy.  He's a good bloke, an honest bloke and I know he'll put the money to good use. 

Good gawd, I think many of you would be much happier in life if you argued less and got your wallet out more.   
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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2015, 09:03:20 AM »
Hosting is dirt cheap these days. Dirt cheap with excellent support. The issue as you pointed out is this is not usually the case outside of the US.

Donating money is fine and dandy but there are ways to monetize the site I am sure. You have a list of almost 5,000 users. Maybe you could grow that list by offering a freebie with info? Market your users with useful offers? A nice email right before Woman's Day with the link to a reputable FSU florist where you make a commission. I don't think users will be very offended over something like this. Of course this takes a little time and minimal effort, maybe something you are limited in or lack the desire due to other ventures.

The online search for MOB and Russian women is still very high. Maybe someone with experience with traffic like Andrew has knowledge on the volume change?

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Re: Site Funding. Supporting Members. Q & A.
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2015, 09:49:59 AM »
... Maybe someone with experience with traffic like Andrew has knowledge on the volume change?

It was prudent to write "someone... like Andrew." Our intellectual giants would be beside themselves if we took Andrew's advice.
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