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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2014, 09:57:18 AM »
Dear Ladies

I read an article recently which said that attractive young Russian/Ukrainian women sometimes work in the sex industry to pay for their university fees. I don't understand why they would do this. Wouldn't it be better to marry an older Western man and let him pay for everything?

Cheers, Fred
Older Western Guy

ummm   Fred  its fairly guaranteed your local strip club is full of young local women working their way through university,instead of marrying an older gentleman. sure its mostly a cover story,,but its often true as well -
Why would that be?
You'd have to ask them ,i'd assume its considered the better choice ,perhaps  from it being short term, and more on their terms. 

Keep in mind university is basically free in the parts of FSU you'd be looking and its not an attractive offer is it?

All that said i'm certain if setting up a business transaction /short term style marriage  a man could find women of any nationality open to such if looking hard enough.
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But you would be delving in the murkiest waters of any given society ,is that what you aspire too?
The hooker with a heart gold ,ala Pretty Woman is a popular fairy tale in the FSU too, that doesnt change its simply a fairly tale.
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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2014, 10:06:43 AM »
AJ, I don't know about the US but in this part of the world a strip club is often seen by both clients and workers as a kind of introduction agency, a matchmaker if you will.

The girls are often seeking a substantial upgrade in life and lifestyle and there's one thing that is always true of the clients who go to these places - they have disposable cash, they like the girls who work there and they tend to be 'generous' rather than greedy. For their part the girls tend to be attractive, sociable, often pretty bright and 'realistic' about the attainment of their personal goals.

Obviously only a minority of the clients are actively seeking a relationship but I can assure you that both sides do seem to find each other and I know from first hand of the reality of the situation, albeit that these days I count myself as a retiree from the pursuit of girls from strip bars. ;)

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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2014, 10:17:23 AM »
Agreed in general Andrew,
both sides of the equation know what they want and how to go about getting it,
very few on either side  would want a long term commitment of any kind ,monetary or lifestyle.

A  small percent might, perhaps consider that arrangement , so it seems the OP would be looking at a incredibly small pool of individuals in any population, and within that would be hoping for the julia roberts character , of that subset?
Thats just far from reality.
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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2014, 10:29:11 AM »
One of the more famous ladies who financed her post graduate studies by working as a call girl was Brooke Magnanti  who published two best selling novels on her experiences under the pseudonym "Belle de Jour"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belle_de_Jour_%28writer%29

She obviously squared off her undeclared earnings with the Inland Revenue and now works as a journalist for the Daily Telegraph.

The motivational profiles of sex workers are vastly different to those of younger women who aspire to improve their lifestyle by marriage to a wealthy guy.  To equate the two groups is simply stupid.

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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2014, 10:38:32 AM »
AJ, my guess, from what I have read is that our hero could not pull off that kind of relationship.

As for the short term aspect, there I'd say that you were wrong. My experience has been that whilst there are short term flings, sponsorships etc. that the women are often happy to seek out long term relationships and the men do as well.

An acquaintance, before her own marriage and parenthood, ran a business planning and managing weddings. She was kept pretty busy by her work. Her clientele was very largely couples where the woman was an erotic dancer.

Les, there are all sorts of 'sex workers' and even more different types of people involved in sex work. There's plenty of married men and women, mothers and fathers, lovers and friends.

Perhaps there is a tendency among some to overlay 'home grown' cultural and social stereotypes over foreign situations and environments.
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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2014, 10:49:32 AM »
Ukrainian society is not conservative.

It's far more conservative than the West. That's one of the reasons why jaded American males are so desperate to latch onto Ukrainian women as potential life partners.

As for why?  Why would laying under an old geezer your father's age or older, cooking his meals, cleaning for him, and dealing with his family, be a preferable choice?  It is still prostitution, just in a different form.

I'm afraid I have to disagree. Sharing your life and home with someone who honestly cares about you is not prostitution.

Also, why do you assume that the male is looking for a domestic slave? In the real world, the majority of Western men are willing to fulfill an equal share of the responsibilities. Not kidding.

You've been to Ukraine then? Please enlighten us on the conservatism of Ukrainian women as compared to Western women. I am interested in the details.

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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2014, 11:05:53 AM »
Dear Ladies

I read an article recently which said that attractive young Russian/Ukrainian women sometimes work in the sex industry to pay for their university fees. I don't understand why they would do this. Wouldn't it be better to marry an older Western man and let him pay for everything?

Cheers, Fred
Older Western Guy

Would you like, if you have a daughter/granddaughter marrying grandfathers?


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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2014, 11:38:15 AM »
UW women do marry men a bit older than themselves ..but it isn't common.

When they do,of course there can be varied reasons, I'd assume for getting through a university among the very least likely.






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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2014, 12:20:30 PM »
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You mentioned previously that your "better half" is from Ukraine. Assuming you're male and she's female, do you treat her like a bonded servant?

Yes, we're into bondage.

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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2014, 12:35:33 PM »
Dear Ladies

I read an article recently which said that attractive young Russian/Ukrainian women sometimes work in the sex industry to pay for their university fees. I don't understand why they would do this. Wouldn't it be better to marry an older Western man and let him pay for everything?

Cheers, Fred
Older Western Guy

To cut to the point, why would older men want to marry younger girls when they want to study at University.   Can't they wait till she finish her studying?   She is not an object !!!


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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2014, 12:51:49 PM »
Boris,

I think we can safely assume that the OP has no personal experience of any FSU country.

I disagree with the thread title "Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?" 

IMHO roughly the same number of Russian/Ukrainian women have a sincere interest in marriage to an older man now as they did 10 - 15 years ago.

The number of young women seeking a donkey to transport them out of their dire economic circumstances has fallen substantially in recent years.  There is no significant MOB industry in Russia any more.  However the economic situation in Ukraine will likely cause an increase.

Only a small percentage of young women will consider marriage to an older guy.  The trick is finding one of these women and that is no easy task...

Also it is not marriage to ANY older guy.  The man needs to be exceptional in many ways.  Fat, fifty and living in a double wide is never going to make it  (:)

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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2014, 01:08:33 PM »

Would you like, if you have a daughter/granddaughter marrying grandfathers?

Which would you prefer.  Your daughter or granddaughter marrying a grandfather or her earning a nice living as a call girl?   I think that was the question from the OP.  Frankly neither option seems like one most would like but young women do have a mind of their own.

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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2014, 04:15:32 PM »
Tom, I can't speak for others but 'any more' is two separate words. For example: "I don't want any more thank you." we can see it is two words because we can actually use both of them separately in the sentence. Conjoining the words does not alter the meaning of the two separate words.

And, yes, I know that people use this construction often enough for some to suggest it is a valid usage. On that basis, if enough people say that 2+2=5 then surely it will become true. File under the same heading as moot/mute and I could care less - incorrect and the result of lots of lazy thinking. ;)

Apparently New England is a New World bastion of correct usage wherein any & more are not conjoined. ;)

Apparently, it's a Brit thing then. In the U.S., "anymore" is an adverb that refers to a previous status quo and "any more" is used as an adjective that refers to quantity. Ergo, the fellow is either a Limey, from a Limey colony or an illiterate American.
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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2014, 04:26:07 PM »
File under the same heading as "moot/mute" and "I could care less" - incorrect and the result of lots of lazy thinking. ;)

I often wondered about those two grammatical mistakes that most Americans make.
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Re: Why aren't young women interested in older men any more?
« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2014, 04:37:29 PM »
"Jive/jibe..."
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