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As there is a lot being written in the media (and here) on the Ukraine crisis, I thought it better we had a topic dedicated only to links to outside media content rather than it be distributed randomly in many other topics.

If you have found an interesting media link on the subject, you are welcome to place it here with a synopsis and a backlink. Or post the video if on Youtube.

As an experiment, can we keep this topic free of discussion and opinion, and limit it only to links to stuff in the media you find interesting. That way, people who seek to read various opinions can find it in one topic rather than dredging through pages of arguments and opinions across numerous topics.   :thumbsup:

It is better if you post a small synopsis or the first paragraph rather than just post a link without explanation. For example:

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Sergei Lavrov: The truth must be revealed

In an exclusive interview with RBTH on the Ukraine crisis, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov says the highest priority must be an unconditional ceasefire to end the suffering of civilians. He also warns that trying to settle disputes by imposing unilateral sanctions threatens international peace and stability.

Source: Russia Beyond the Headlines - http://rbth.co.uk/international/2014/08/26/sergei_lavrov_the_truth_must_be_revealed_39255.html

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By doing that, it allows our members to judge if they find the source site, author, subject, etc. interesting before they click through.

I thought this a fair way of letting people link to content they find useful without the need to engage in banter and argument about differing points of view. Think of it like a "no comment" trip report.

So in this topic, please don't quote anyone and say something like "Thats bullsh!t because blah blah..........". In fact don't quote anyone or offer opinions at all. Lets try this format on this one topic and see how it goes.

Edit: Some people missed the point, so the thread on quality of media and propaganda can be found here.
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Today's "fair and balanced" USA Media Reports:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2014/08/25/russia-economy-in-trouble-official-says/?partner=yahootix
Europe banned E.U. energy companies from selling equipment used in oil and gas drilling. The U.S. banned selling fracking equipment or any technological sharing of information with regard to fracking.  That didn’t stop ExxonMobil from going ahead with a large Arctic Circle drilling operation in the Kara Sea.  “Europe and Russia will be energy partners for many decades to come,” Lund said. “Our aim is to continue the Rosneft partnership, and we hope for diplomatic solutions,” the WSJ quoted him saying.

The Russian economy began slowing since 2012 due to weak domestic growth.  Europe’s slowdown also impacted Russia. The E.U. is Russia’s most important trading partner, accounting for the majority of its oil and gas exports.  Ulyukayev said the government needs to spend money wisely and start investing in development again.


https://screen.yahoo.com/news/chinese-fighter-pilots-going-rogue-061702917.html?vp=1
Are Chinese Fighter Pilots Going Rogue?
by WSJ Live 3:45 mins
The U.S. says rogue Chinese pilots may be responsible for recent close encounters in airspace above the South China Sea. But as Sam Rogevveen of the Lowy Institute explains, China continues to flex its muscles in pushing its territorial claims in the region.

Point is we have our hands full with hot headed Russians, Ukrainians and NOW Rogue Red Chinese Jet Jockeys...

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-plans-send-second-aid-convoy-ukraine-085959372.html
KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukraine's president on Monday dissolved parliament and called for early elections in October as his country continues to battle a pro-Russian insurgency in its eastern regions.

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-plans-another-aid-convoy-ukraine-lavrov-085700484.html
Moscow (AFP) - Moscow has informed Kiev that it intends to send a second humanitarian aid convoy into rebel-held eastern Ukraine in the coming days, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Monday.

"We sent yesterday an official note to the Ukrainian foreign ministry with information about our intention to prepare the next convoy with humanitarian aid" including details about its planned contents, said Lavrov at a news conference.

Russia sent 230 lorries carrying what it claimed was 1,800 tonnes humanitarian aid to the rebel-held Ukrainian city of Lugansk without Red Cross monitors on Friday after accusing Kiev of intentionally delaying the mission.

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-allows-dairy-imports-turkish-firms-western-food-085213386--sector.html
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia has allowed dairy supplies from three Turkish firms, its veterinary and phytosanitary service (VPSS) said, boosting imports after Moscow banned most foods from the European Union and the United States. Shares in one of the Turkish companies, dairy company Pinar Sut, surged 7.9 percent to 1.6 lira in Istanbul on the news, which was a first tangible sign of Turkey benefiting from the import bans.

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Links banned at ukraine. Fresh information and maps online (in English).

http://en.voicesevas.ru/

http://cassad.net/?do=warmarker

It can't be considered as government propaganda, people work for free at this resource.
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Russian troops captured in Ukraine there 'by accident'...

A group of Russian soldiers captured in eastern Ukraine crossed the border "by accident", Russian military sources are quoted as saying.

Ukraine said 10 paratroopers were captured, and has released video interviews of some of the men.

The incident comes as the Ukrainian and Russian leaders hold talks in Belarus.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28934213
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A 25km accident.

There's an interesting article on The Interpreter today about censorship and government influence on the Russian media quoting the former ORT / Channel One journalist Pavel Sheremet.

http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-allowed-russian-journalists-to-ignore-their-complicity-with-putin-regime-sheremet-says/

Quote from: The Interpreter
Before Ukraine, many Russian TV journalists were ashamed of their willingness to conform to Kremlin guidelines but justified it by their mortgages and family responsibilities, Pavel Sheremet says. But the Ukrainian war has allowed them to see themselves not as “petty propagandists and cowards” but instead as “defenders of the Russian World.”

That has allowed many of them to become even more complicit with the regime and even to be proud of it, the former ORT program host who resigned over the annexation of Crimea and Moscow’s support of the insurgency in eastern Ukraine told Dmitry Volchek of Radio Liberty’s Russian Service.

It is important to understand that what is going on among Moscow journalists is not simply the imposition of censorship, Sheremet says. Rather there are incredible pressures from the regime and there are pressures that arise from within the journalistic fraternity because of its earlier willingness to go along.

“When the war began,” he says, there was no censorship “as such.” Instead, “there was strong external pressure: letters from the Presidential Administration, anonymous denunciations from within the channel, and letters from angry citizens demanding that enemies of the people be held responsible.” Some resisted, “but then the pressure became unbearable.”

The situation was thus “much more complicated” than many imagine. “We are dealing with a closed circle when we all are becoming hostages of this game.” Some TV journalists on their own initiative showed pictures of what they believed were the horrors of the Maidan, that produced an official response, and then the journalists reported that.

As a result, “Russian society simply went insane,” Sheremet says, and television journalists bear some responsibility for that. “For a long time,” he says, he “could not understand why [his] colleagues who had covered hot spots and wars with him were conducting themselves as dogs of empire and dogs of obscurantism.”

But then it became clear, he continues, all the years under Putin, when it was “quite shameful to work in news programing on state channels,” people excused themselves by pointing to their personal needs, even as they were prepared to call “white black” and the reverse. Now, with the war in Ukraine, they could feel swept up in the mood of patriotic euphoria and even “with satisfaction, do their dirty deeds.”

One example of the responsibility that Russian television journalists have failed in, Sheremet says, is in their representation of the Soviet past to young people. He says he is “shocked” by the nostalgia for that horrific period seen among the young. “We did not tell our children about the horrors of Soviet times and we playfully let the genie out of the bottle by talking about what a great country we were, one that the entire world feared, forgetting that to be feared and to be respected are entirely different things.”

“Some speculated on the Soviet past purely politically in order to hide their impotence and inability to run the country now. But young people took all this for the real thing.” That too played into the attitudes of the population, adding to journalists’ responsibility “for the hellish actions of politicians” because it “gave them an ideological basis.”

According to Sheremet, “the virus of immune deficiency of conscience has disordered from within practically all of the professional Russian society which works with meanings, information and ideology. Only a horrific stress can cure all this.” Consequently, in the near term, there is likely to be a further degradation and more witch hunts at home.

Original Russian interview here: http://www.svoboda.org/content/article/26546762.html

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There's an interesting editorial on Vedomosti today (in Russian) entitled "Are we at war?": http://www.vedomosti.ru/opinion/news/32616101/voyuem-li-my

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It's been reported that paratroopers from the Pskov region were buried on the 25th August; however, no information has been given as to where and how they perished.

http://m.riavrn.ru/society/news/v-voronezhskoy-oblasti-pokhoronili-komvzvoda-pskovskoy-divizii-/


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however, no information has been given as to where and how they perished.

Quite possibly another training accident such as that which claimed the lives of nine Russian soldiers from Dagestan a couple of weeks ago. It seems to be quite dangerous this training.

http://www.president-sovet.ru/news/6875/

There's more here about what happened when Russian journalists visited the cemetery: http://www.interpretermag.com/russia-this-week/ You'll need to click "Load more" to see all the posts.

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Ukraine plans to introduce conscription for women as well as men.

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Post-Maidan manic Ukraine adopts all questionable European experience. In the near future they plan to introduce a regime of Kiev military mobilization for women, citing the example of Switzerland, which, unlike in Ukraine, 200 years has a policy of non-participation in military conflicts.

Avoiding conscription could not even very healthy representatives of the weaker sex. In an interview with the Ukrainian newspaper "Capital," said the so-called Adviser to the Minister of Defense Alexander Danyluk.

Подробнее: http://antifashist.com/item/vony-zdobuly-zhenshhinam-ukrainy-predstoit-obyazatelnaya-mobilizaciya-v-armiyu.html#ixzz3Bbeo80JV

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Listen to Victoria Nuland choosing the new Ukraine Junta:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaa-67yGM</a>
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-obama-administration-wants-journalist-131441875.html
REUTERS/Kevin Lamarque
Why The Obama Administration Wants This Journalist In Jail
President Barack Obama came into office in 2009 promising a new era of unprecedented transparency in his administration. But when he leaves office, reporters may remember him for an effort that has largely turned out to be the opposite — and for being what one affected reporter has called the "greatest enemy to press freedom in a generation."

At a time when journalists' roles in covering different, critical conflict zones have been under the microscope, renewed attention has come to the case involving James Risen. He is the New York Times journalist who has been fighting efforts by two different Departments of Justice — under Presidents Obama and George W. Bush — to compel him to identify sources from a  2006 book that reveals a secret CIA plan to sabotage Iran's budding nuclear program.

For the past five years, he has battled the Obama administration's Justice Department, which in 2009 took a rather unprecedented step of renewing a subpoena scheduled to expire that year. From his case and others the Obama administration has pursued, Risen told The Times' Maureen Dowd recently that Obama represented a fundamental obstacle for press freedom.

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http://www.vox.com/2014/8/27/6069415/lets-be-clear-about-this-russia-is-invading-ukraine-right-now


https://news.yahoo.com/kiev-reports-movement-tanks-heavy-weapons-russia-105057667.html
Rebels seize ground as West claims Russia army is in Ukraine

https://news.yahoo.com/russia-denies-plans-block-gas-transit-europe-143424575--finance.html

Russia denies it has plans to block gas transit to Europe

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Reuters

2 hours ago

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Ukraine transit sanctions could hit 'all types of transit': PM Reuters

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian Energy Minister Alexander Novak dismissed Ukraine's claims that Moscow plans to block gas transit to Europe, saying on Wednesday that the assertions are groundless.

His comments were published after Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk said earlier on Wednesday Kiev knew of Russian plans to halt gas flows this winter to Europe.

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Ukraine's PM says Russia plans to block gas flows to Europe

Source: Reuters - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:44 GMT
http://www.trust.org/item/20140827103537-st7w4/
Author: Reuters
KIEV, Aug 27 (Reuters) - Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk said on Wednesday that Kiev knew of plans by Russia to halt gas flows this winter to Europe, in comments which are likely to escalate the standoff between Moscow and the West.

Russia halted gas supplies to Ukraine in June over a gas pricing dispute, but it has continued supplies to Europe, its largest market.

"The situation in (Ukraine's) energy sector is difficult. We know of Russia's plans to block (gas) transit even to European Union countries this winter," he told a government meeting.

Yatseniuk did not say how he knew about the Russian plans.

Last year, half of Russian gas exports to the EU were shipped via Ukraine. Russian gas exporter Gazprom declined immediate comment and the Energy Ministry was not immediately available to comment

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Cufflinks comments: clearly the truth is somewhere in the middle -
RU is invading UA or it is NOT
Gas Supplies will be cut off by Moscow through UA or NOT
Gas supplies will be cut off (Diverted in UA) by UA or Not
Simeon Mogeleyivich the mega Don of the FSUW jewish Mafiya will steal and divert gas and oil as has been the case with "leakage" in UA for the past 20 ears or so on the UA Black Market.

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The Russian invasion.

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This is what happened: they crossed the border, took up positions, and started shooting," Sgt. Aleksei Panko said after telling The Times that about 60 armored vehicles crossed the border near the town of Novoazovsk. “This is now a war with Russia."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ukrainian-sargent-now-war-russia-184509355.html
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The above mentioned Panko is more completely mentioned by CNBC. Being American media, they start off like this:

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NOVOAZOVSK, Ukraine — Tanks, artillery and infantry have crossed from Russia into an unbreached part of eastern Ukraine in recent days, attacking Ukrainian forces and causing panic and wholesale retreat not only in this small border town but a wide swath of territory, in what Ukrainian and Western military officials are calling a stealth invasion.

They then go on to quote the above-mentioned Mr Panko near the bottom of the article:

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"I tell you they are Russians, but this is what proof I have," said Sgt. Aleksei Panko, holding up his thumb and index finger to form a zero.

Full article here: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101951821#.
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<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYH4_vY_JVE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYH4_vY_JVE</a>
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President of Russia Vladimir Putin addressed Novorossiya militia

August 29, 2014, 01:10

Full text of address

It is clear the militia has achieved a major success in intercepting Kiev’s military operation, which represents a grave danger to the population of Donbass and which has already led to the loss of many lives among peaceful residents.

As a result of the militia’s actions, a large number of Ukrainian service members who did not participate in the military operation of their own volition but while following orders have been surrounded.

I call on the militia groups to open a humanitarian corridor for Ukrainian service members who have been surrounded, so as to avoid any needless loss of life, giving them the opportunity to leave the combat area unimpeded and reunite with their families, to return them to their mothers, wives and children, and to quickly provide medical assistance to those who were injured in the course of the military operation.

For its part, the Russian side is ready and willing to provide humanitarian aid to the people of Donbass, who have been affected by this humanitarian catastrophe.

I once again call on the Ukrainian authorities to immediately stop military actions, cease fire, sit down at the negotiating table with Donbass representatives and resolve all the accumulated problems exclusively via peaceful means.

http://eng.kremlin.ru/transcripts/22863
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