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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #275 on: March 16, 2016, 03:42:51 AM »
I love this country its like paradise very day  :) BUT anyone thinking of setting business up I would say think twice and it certainly isn't for the faint hearted.
Nearly anything official is a pain in the ass if you don't give the person at the other end some real mouth nothing will ever get done :laugh:
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #276 on: March 16, 2016, 03:57:56 AM »
While this 'invasion' of cowboys may be a recent phenomenon (the last couple of years) I recall that there have been similar programs in the past, quite a few years ago.

Conditions in Russia are quite ideal for this kind of management it seems, lots of space and weather suitable for ongoing outdoor raising of the animals.

Notice that the purpose is to transfer knowledge to Russia from 'outside'. This is something that Russia has been quietly getting on with for the past couple of decades - Danchik probably knows about that as he has seen the effects of the knowledge transfer in his work.
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #277 on: March 16, 2016, 10:30:10 PM »
Just a little reminder ... Westy's foolish 'nobody' would have been more accurately phrased as  - compared to those wanting to Leave ... far fewer seek to settle IN Russia..

Those - including myself - that are the exception - understand that Russia has a long way to go to making it simple to 'set up shop' ..  If one derives income from elsewhere - it is a different matter
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #278 on: March 18, 2016, 08:39:42 PM »
I love this country its like paradise very day  :) BUT anyone thinking of setting business up I would say think twice and it certainly isn't for the faint hearted.
Nearly anything official is a pain in the ass if you don't give the person at the other end some real mouth nothing will ever get done :laugh:
Employing people is more than a pain in the ass.. My personal experiences with web programers is most want to do nothing all day but get paid lots of $$$$ Next year we will need 1/2 full time developers and its probably easier for me to offer some guy from the UK a full time job and pay their relocation to Russia. As for finding someone interested in re locating to Russia I think that would be a pretty easy task  ;D

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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #279 on: March 18, 2016, 08:41:26 PM »
While this 'invasion' of cowboys may be a recent phenomenon (the last couple of years) I recall that there have been similar programs in the past, quite a few years ago.

Conditions in Russia are quite ideal for this kind of management it seems, lots of space and weather suitable for ongoing outdoor raising of the animals.

Notice that the purpose is to transfer knowledge to Russia from 'outside'. This is something that Russia has been quietly getting on with for the past couple of decades - Danchik probably knows about that as he has seen the effects of the knowledge transfer in his work.

That makes a LOT of sense.

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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #280 on: March 18, 2016, 10:09:00 PM »

Those - including myself - that are the exception - understand that Russia has a long way to go to making it simple to 'set up shop' ..  If one derives income from elsewhere - it is a different matter

The Republic of Georgia makes it easy to 'set up shop' (start a business). Foreign investment was going strong in that direction until those 5 days in August '08. Now people are afraid to invest here so says my taxi driver. When I talk about bureaucratic hassles in the West towards businessmen, regulations and so on I'm usually given a strange look. Here everything seems so free and easy going. I understand you can get a business license in a few hours. The government building where that is done works really, really smooth. I get the impression Georgia is like America 150 years ago.

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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #281 on: March 19, 2016, 12:22:35 AM »

Those - including myself - that are the exception - understand that Russia has a long way to go to making it simple to 'set up shop' ..  If one derives income from elsewhere - it is a different matter

The Republic of Georgia makes it easy to 'set up shop' (start a business). Foreign investment was going strong in that direction until those 5 days in August '08. Now people are afraid to invest here so says my taxi driver. When I talk about bureaucratic hassles in the West towards businessmen, regulations and so on I'm usually given a strange look. Here everything seems so free and easy going. I understand you can get a business license in a few hours. The government building where that is done works really, really smooth. I get the impression Georgia is like America 150 years ago.
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #282 on: March 19, 2016, 12:50:46 AM »
Just a little reminder ... Westy's foolish 'nobody' would have been more accurately phrased as  - compared to those wanting to Leave ... far fewer seek to settle IN Russia..

Those - including myself - that are the exception - understand that Russia has a long way to go to making it simple to 'set up shop' ..  If one derives income from elsewhere - it is a different matter

Actually, this comment is incorrect..

As long as one has the correct and required documentation, and follows the correct procedures/rules/laws, Setting up shop in Russia is a doddle..
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #283 on: March 19, 2016, 10:03:27 AM »
Just a little reminder ... Westy's foolish 'nobody' would have been more accurately phrased as  - compared to those wanting to Leave ... far fewer seek to settle IN Russia..

Those - including myself - that are the exception - understand that Russia has a long way to go to making it simple to 'set up shop' ..  If one derives income from elsewhere - it is a different matter

Actually, this comment is incorrect..

As long as one has the correct and required documentation, and follows the correct procedures/rules/laws, Setting up shop in Russia is a doddle..

Does this mean it no longer takes 4 to 7 weeks to do the iinitial paperwork and you don't need to set up your shop before seeking approval to open it?
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #284 on: March 19, 2016, 10:18:05 AM »
Just a little reminder ... Westy's foolish 'nobody' would have been more accurately phrased as  - compared to those wanting to Leave ... far fewer seek to settle IN Russia..

Those - including myself - that are the exception - understand that Russia has a long way to go to making it simple to 'set up shop' ..  If one derives income from elsewhere - it is a different matter

Actually, this comment is incorrect..

As long as one has the correct and required documentation, and follows the correct procedures/rules/laws, Setting up shop in Russia is a doddle..

Does this mean it no longer takes 4 to 7 weeks to do the iinitial paperwork and you don't need to set up your shop before seeking approval to open it?

Setting up myself in business took 1 day to get the relevant paperwork in order, business bank account, and registered with the local tax office, 5 days later, the tax approval was through, job done.
It took 2 weeks to get my little official round stamp designed and made.
I work from home, but if I was in the market to set up a shop, it would be no different, as long as the premises owner had adhered to all relevant health and safety laws, and the premises had been inspected and approved.
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #285 on: March 20, 2016, 06:49:02 AM »
I love this country its like paradise very day  :) BUT anyone thinking of setting business up I would say think twice and it certainly isn't for the faint hearted.
Nearly anything official is a pain in the ass if you don't give the person at the other end some real mouth nothing will ever get done :laugh:
Employing people is more than a pain in the ass.. My personal experiences with web programers is most want to do nothing all day but get paid lots of $$$$ Next year we will need 1/2 full time developers and its probably easier for me to offer some guy from the UK a full time job and pay their relocation to Russia. As for finding someone interested in re locating to Russia I think that would be a pretty easy task  ;D

What kind of business are you building sites for?

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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #286 on: March 21, 2016, 08:27:33 PM »


Actually, this comment is incorrect..

As long as one has the correct and required documentation, and follows the correct procedures/rules/laws, Setting up shop in Russia is a doddle..

As we both know, what you state is fine - in theory - but if you 'lucky' enough to encounter a corrupt / lazy official - the reality can be very different.

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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #287 on: November 03, 2016, 11:14:45 AM »
Putin grants Steven Seagal Russian citizenship

https://www.rt.com/viral/365259-steven-seagal-russian-citizenship/
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #288 on: November 04, 2016, 04:24:01 AM »
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #290 on: August 18, 2017, 04:54:05 PM »
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #291 on: August 18, 2017, 05:09:01 PM »
Traitor.

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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #292 on: August 19, 2017, 02:34:08 AM »
Traitor.

How so ?!

 He wasn't in the Aussie line-up anymore..

I'd sail for the Russian Olympic team ...   if they have me ;))))) They only let me set the courses - if I'm lucky !
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #293 on: December 06, 2017, 12:04:06 PM »
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #294 on: January 11, 2018, 03:23:02 AM »
A short while ago free tickets were still available.
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #295 on: June 11, 2019, 05:01:31 PM »
Here is an example of someone from the US now living in Ukraine due to student loan debt. He also lived in China for several years doing teaching work there.  If he finds a FSU girlfriend there, he will have a lot of trouble in relocating her to this country.  Student debt is never removed from your credit reports.

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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #296 on: July 30, 2022, 10:10:57 AM »
I thought I'd wake this old topic up for our friend Westcoast. There's a video floating around Twitter that was probably made as satire, but to me is more like an actual advertisement to live in Russia. See what you think.

Just for Westy: https://twitter.com/ruadventures/status/1553411535367770113?s=20&t=7XHafsQeIn_E2yQ-v6njWw
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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #297 on: July 30, 2022, 11:35:27 AM »
I thought I'd wake this old topic up for our friend Westcoast. There's a video floating around Twitter that was probably made as satire, but to me is more like an actual advertisement to live in Russia. See what you think.

Just for Westy: https://twitter.com/ruadventures/status/1553411535367770113?s=20&t=7XHafsQeIn_E2yQ-v6njWw

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Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #298 on: July 30, 2022, 01:31:39 PM »
  I have been watching the utuber, Nomad Capitalist, for some time now.

  his shtick is "go where you are treated best".  meaning, in simple terms, low taxes.  or at least where you get best value for your taxes.  I think at this time he is living in Serbia, with various residences in several countries, to include Georgia.  he has, from what he has said, about a dozen passports, with a couple at least in FSU countries.

  in his vids there are several that speak about Russia, although, not that I have noticed, after the war has started.

  check his vids for different countries. use the search function.

  he seems to have a bit of money and does live in the FSU.

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Re: Westcoast: Nobody immigrates to the FSU from the west.
« Reply #299 on: July 30, 2022, 01:57:26 PM »
There are plenty of Brits in Russia making PLENTY of money..

I have several mates who are multi millionaires living in St Petersburg who have a made a fortune here.. who have huge properties portfolios and lots more, were doing pretty well ourselves about to buy our next building project . Every thing is here if you want to make money and ready to work for it. I cant even tell you the amount of Indian guys doing well here, Mexicans, Italians and so on..

Red tape red tape red tape, corruption , corruption , corruption its all most think about when trying to settle in Russia .. yeah there is some.. and there is corruption so what! Nothing to bad.. One mate from the UK employs 400 staff at his printing company which he set up 20 years ago with Russian investors.. he's made a few million..

Most who arrive here to settle soon understand that there is no going back..life is way way to good here.. I could give you a whole load of examples of foreigners  that have done well here .but is personal information..

Most of you here are totally clueless about the opportunities in this great country.. which is a pity really.

Just a few days ago I was out with one of my mates checking his lake house out .. have many of you lot here got a million Euros to invest in one place and a plot of land .. :laugh:



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