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Offline Gorky Guy

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Re: Administrative processing???!!! (ranting against...)
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2007, 07:55:24 AM »
Those prices would bankrupt me!
I assure you they do! My maschina costs me $120.00 to fill up every week. Road Tax is now $220.00. As for fags... well, how does $10.00 a pack strike you? Mind you, booze is almost as pricey. Not that I buy my fags or booze in Blighty. That's what we have Belgium for!
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Blighty is not called 'Ripoff Britain' for nothing. Thank Chairman Bliar for the fact that a mate of mine has just shelled out $1,000 for a Fiance Visa. He then has to shell out $2,000 when he marries his inamorata and, currently, another $2,000 to get permission for her to remain here  indefinitely. And what happens to all this djengi? Why, it pays to buy stuff to blow up folks in faraway places...
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Re: Administrative processing???!!! (ranting against...)
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2007, 08:58:57 AM »
Lets also not forget just luck of the draw.  My first foot in the door corporate job out of college was a "licensing specialist" for a major brokerage firm.  Basically the country was divided into about 20 sections.  So it was luck of the draw which one of us yim yams a broker received handling his broker lic. apps.  Put in a factor of one of us being off work for a few weeks, ill or vacation etc...and a lazy suprv who didn't reassign the case load and TA DA! easy month back log.   And uhhh it wasn't government work like these cats!  Also, some of these processors just might really suck at their job and have no drive to complete anything at all....come on folks you haven't seen these same types at the county clerk office have you? 

That's why I avoid those places like a madhouse!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Administrative processing???!!! (ranting against...)
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2007, 09:34:40 PM »
I picked up some information on the USCIS website that was interesting but not encouraging.   The last statistics they have on it are for May of 2006.   There were 138,000 people in Administrative Processing.  63 percent were in it for over 3 months and 38% were in it for more than one year.

One of their goals for this year is to speed it up and to find ways to make it more transparent and to make more information available to those going though it (like we are)


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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2007, 03:20:56 PM »
Indeed, any updates on your lady, Turboguy?
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Re: Administrative processing???!!! (ranting against...)
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2007, 06:44:52 PM »

Sending 2 dozen bags of PATIENCE.... you will need them.

Was with our son ... together, as a family we have been there, and done that.....

For those that file in Nebraska extra bags...... :'(

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Re: Administrative processing???!!! (ranting against...)
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2007, 07:27:09 PM »
Mamma D,

I was looking at that on the VJ site.  Why would the Neb. center take longer? 

I also wonder what impact all this illegal immigrant legislation will have on processing times if they can ever come to an agreement.

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Re: Administrative processing???!!! (ranting against...)
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2007, 07:31:18 PM »
Those prices would bankrupt me!
I assure you they do! My maschina costs me $120.00 to fill up every week. Road Tax is now $220.00. As for fags... well, how does $10.00 a pack strike you? Mind you, booze is almost as pricey. Not that I buy my fags or booze in Blighty. That's what we have Belgium for!
 :P

Blighty is not called 'Ripoff Britain' for nothing. Thank Chairman Bliar for the fact that a mate of mine has just shelled out $1,000 for a Fiance Visa. He then has to shell out $2,000 when he marries his inamorata and, currently, another $2,000 to get permission for her to remain here  indefinitely. And what happens to all this djengi? Why, it pays to buy stuff to blow up folks in faraway places...
 >:(


I would not give a penny for a fag!   ;D  ok American Humor

Uhhhh Errrrr ummmm  so your saying you don't support the war huh? lol

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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2007, 07:35:49 PM »
Indeed, any updates on your lady, Turboguy?
No, nothing Alf,  we are passing the 4 month mark and no news, no progress.  We are looking at spending an extended period of time together in The Caribbean in a month.

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Re: Administrative processing???!!! (ranting against...)
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2007, 01:31:55 PM »
Now as far as the lack of transparancy, there is absolutely no information available about where it is, what is happening or how long it will take.   We will find out when it comes out and the packet is sent to Moscow.    When that does happen we will have about 60 days before the interview during which she will have to get a police report, a physical and I must be busy getting bank letters, employer letters, tax records and the like.   The problem is that it is very hard to make plans.   We would like to be togheter and are talking about moving to Barbados or someplace and spending a fair amount of time living together if the visa delay continures.  Without knowing when the A/P is ending we are taking a gamble trying to make plane reservations, renting a place and making plans.   If we suddenly find out the packet is on the way to Moscow we both need to be busy prepairing.   Some things like the police report take time and have limits as to how long they are valid.   Getting it in advance is a gamble, waiting when we might be on the other side of the world is also a gamble. 

Ok, ranting over for now.


uh, you know what you need for the next step, so why are you waiting??  Get the stuff done, now.   Getting the police report takes time, especially if she's lived in more than one city.  Why you say getting it in advance is a gamble is a mystery to me.  They don't go stale, and now is NOT the time to be changing residences, so that's not an issue.  Make it easier on yourself and get done what you need done now and be prepared when you get notified of the next step.

Why you don't already have your tax records, employment letters and bank statements already to go is silly.  If you change jobs so much that your employment letter has to wait to the last minute, you're toast anyway.  Tax records are yearly things, you're not going to wait that long.  It's not required that you have the last 5 minutes of your bank records, either.  Get with it, get this part done and worry about other stuff!  Good grief, these things are in your control, do them.



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Re: Administrative processing???!!! (ranting against...)
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2007, 09:02:49 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions DW but with Administrative Review you never know how long it will last and some of the things actaully do have a time limit.   The police report for example is best no more than 6 months old.   I think it is actually legal for one year.   The same goes with the other stuff.  It needs to be current. 

There are no set timelines for A/R.   I posted someplace here that there are 138,000 people in A/R  67% have been there for 3 months or more and 35% have been there one year.   I ran into one guy Sunday who has been in it for 2 years and 4 months and tonight I ran into someone that has been in it for over 5 years.   So right now I have no idea if they will need my 2006 taxes, my 2007 taxes, my 2008 taxes or my 2012 taxes. 

The only ones that will take time are the police report and the bank letter.   The bank letter should take me about 2 days the rest of the things I need are things I can take care of in 10 minutes.   I do appreciate your advice.   

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Re: Administrative processing???!!! (ranting against...)
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2007, 07:59:02 AM »
Being in Administrative Review I am always reading all the stories I can about others in the same boat.   I will agree that nothing that can happen is much worse.    I have heard a lot of sad stories.   I guess in reality the guy I know who has been there for 5 years is the worst but one I came across yesterday does strike me as the most disheartening. 

I came across a guy yesterday who spent 19 months in Administrative Review at NVC.   At long last they got the wonderful news their A/R was complete and the file was on the way to the embassy.   They had their interview and it went well.   They waited for the visa and waited and waited and called the embassy to try to find out what happened.   They were told their file was in Administrative Review (again) and as of yesterday has been in A/R the second time for 2 months with no end in sight.   That has to really stink. 

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« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2007, 08:03:46 PM »
Hi.  My name's Dave, and I'm in Administrative Review!

((Hi, Dave!))

crap...  Just like other groups that use this intro...  I hate to admit, but I am here.

I think it may have something to do with my criminal history.  I had a few things from MANY years ago.  - All minor misdemeanors.  I supplied dispositions for every single incident in my life save for one that was not available because it was in 1992.  And I'm not even 100% sure this caused the flag for review because they did not tell me.

This is my first K-1 approval.  This is my fiancee's first K-1 application also.  She is from Russia.  She has a clean record.  I am 39 years old and she will be 31 soon - so no major age gap.

But I got my NOA2 approval.  Three days later I call the NVC just for shits and giggles to see if I can get my NVC case number.  They give it to me and tell me my file has been sent to washington for "Administrative Review".  They cannot tell me why other than it is a post 9/11 policy that some get sent to washington for review.  Not sure if he mentioned the FBI or not but I think so.  I should have recorded the conversation or taken notes.

Either way this totally sucks.

Are there any experiences of short time in A/R?  A few weeks?  Two months?

What are the shortest A/R times we know of?

What is the average time in A/R we know of?

Is there anything my lawyer can do?

In some ways I feel like my dream of bringing my soulmate to live with me is shattered.  Is it only dented and not shattered?

OMG...  I'm freaking out!

Coming soon.  ;)

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Re: Administrative processing???!!! (ranting against...)
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2007, 06:42:37 AM »
The new info is out, and it is shocking.    I had posted some statistics earlier in this thread about A/P and A/R.   They were based on May 2006 statistics.    The May 2007 statisics are out and I will post details later today including the first timelines on A/P A/R

I had quoted that there were 138,000 people in A/R.   The new number is 329,000   

The report I read also indicated that the whole thing is a waste and may actually increase the risk to national security.  (Many of the people in A/R are already in the country so the long processing time allows them to be here longer)   Most all risks are picked up by other checks.

I also found out with certainty that the A/R is ALWAYS a check of the benificiary.  It is never a check of the petitioner.  The petitioner is checked at the USCIS office.   I know some people have worried about things in their background causing the delays.  That is never the case.

There are some bright spots.   The processing is done by the FBI.  It is done on a per fee basis and some of the new increases in fees will be channeled to increase the fees paid to the FBI which should speed processing times.

More later when I have time to hand type a lot of info.


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« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2007, 12:01:07 AM »
It is all a ridiculous crapshoot.  Couple X waits Y while couple A waits Y times three.   There is no rhyme or reason.  We just have an incompetent process.  It is very frustrating :'(

Visajourney is even more frustrating to read because most of those suckers get multiple RFE's and still get their spouse's paperwork processed quicker than the born and bred US citizens on this board with Russian women.   The best thing for the system will be regime change.  I only wish I could be in charge  8). 
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