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Author Topic: I was scammed, can i file a criminal complaint with Russian authorities  (Read 14026 times)

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Offline looking4love

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Hi folks,

I have been chatting with a women for some time, i thought i knew her,.., and i send her money for Shengen visa for her and her child ,to meet me this summer.

After she got the money (I used real bankaccount not WU).  There was all kinds of weird drama and discussion popping up, So i suspected she wanted to start a shitstorm and find reason not to come

Anyway, i just said, listen, we not even met and we already do this just after you get th emoney, I think better we call off the whole thing and sned me back the money

She is keeping the money for sure,.., its quite a lot as she lives in Ufa city...and it was travel money to cover the expense.   

I read about filing a criminal complaint as Russia seems to crack down on scammers..., is this so,.., I am looking on how to do this there is a website
http://www.russian-dating-scams.com/scams/criminal_complaint.htm

But some linsk dont work, I thought i would ask the experts here where I could do such a thing

Cheers.

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Are there some people who have residency in Russia, who can answer question asked in first mail?

That would be cool.

Thanks for anyone willing to add constructive answers.


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Before i did any of this we really talked for a long time skype , cam, mails, I know each other for 2 years,.. I did not visit as i (and she) was involved with someone else at the time and we were just good friends,.., now we both were free and i decided to meet her...I totally wasnt expecting this, I am totally surprised.

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Before i did any of this we really talked for a long time skype , cam, mails, I know each other for 2 years,.. I did not visit as i (and she) was involved with someone else at the time and we were just good friends,.., now we both were free and i decided to meet her...I totally wasnt expecting this, I am totally surprised.

Well firstly. the court will take into account your real communication. and it means that you were familiar with. want to punish? and there is a place of the offense? someone forced you to send money? or demanded by blackmail? I think not. But of course you can punish. Only there is no guarantee that you will win this case. Only moral fright will. and no more than a big waste of money on your part.

it is equally in both Russia and Ukraine.
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You sent the money, you made a gift, your choice, your outcome.

Setting aside any possibility of criminal action you did a silly thing, sent a small amount of money to a stranger. Take responsibility for your actions and don't repeat the mistake.
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Before i did any of this we really talked for a long time skype , cam, mails, I know each other for 2 years,.. I did not visit as i (and she) was involved with someone else at the time and we were just good friends,.., now we both were free and i decided to meet her...I totally wasnt expecting this, I am totally surprised.

Well firstly. the court will take into account your real communication. and it means that you were familiar with. want to punish? and there is a place of the offense? someone forced you to send money? or demanded by blackmail? I think not. But of course you can punish. Only there is no guarantee that you will win this case. Only moral fright will. and no more than a big waste of money on your part.

it is equally in both Russia and Ukraine.

Well scamming is never about putting a gun to someone head and get money,..,its getting money by defraud so the term "force" (your quote) is a bit silly as it is never the case with internet scams.

Again i ask here a simple question and this is for Russia because Ukraine have different laws,

http://www.russian-dating-scams.com/scams/criminal_complaint.htm

Some links here are broken, does someone know how to start criminal complaint,.., I know Putin signed a special law making date-scamming a  punishable offense by 5 years.., it is some time ago i read this on the internet but i am sure of my memory..

Again if someone can provide links, i would be very greatfull.


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How much are we talking about?
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You sent the money, you made a gift, your choice, your outcome.

Setting aside any possibility of criminal action you did a silly thing, sent a small amount of money to a stranger. Take responsibility for your actions and don't repeat the mistake.

I dont know how trolling is helpfull. and you are not interested in Russian law protecting people like me from scamming, the law says she is responsible! I dont think i made a mistake, this can happen to anyone who has build up a good rapor  with a women over several years. The law exist to protect people against fraud,scam, etc.

It would be very nice if someone could link to the procedure or website describing the process of filing a criminal complaint in this context.
I dont see how offtangent accusations are helpfull.

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How much are we talking about?
Hi Luke, I am trying to use "search" function on this site , because i am sure I am not the first one talking about this.
Can you recall from memory if the process of filing a criminal complaint has been posted here?

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Before i did any of this we really talked for a long time skype , cam, mails, I know each other for 2 years,.. I did not visit as i (and she) was involved with someone else at the time and we were just good friends,.., now we both were free and i decided to meet her...I totally wasnt expecting this, I am totally surprised.

Well firstly. the court will take into account your real communication. and it means that you were familiar with. want to punish? and there is a place of the offense? someone forced you to send money? or demanded by blackmail? I think not. But of course you can punish. Only there is no guarantee that you will win this case. Only moral fright will. and no more than a big waste of money on your part.

it is equally in both Russia and Ukraine.

Well scamming is never about putting a gun to someone head and get money,..,its getting money by defraud so the term "force" (your quote) is a bit silly as it is never the case with internet scams.

Again i ask here a simple question and this is for Russia because Ukraine have different laws,

http://www.russian-dating-scams.com/scams/criminal_complaint.htm

Some links here are broken, does someone know how to start criminal complaint,.., I know Putin signed a special law making date-scamming a  punishable offense by 5 years.., it is some time ago i read this on the internet but i am sure of my memory..

Again if someone can provide links, i would be very greatfull.

yes we have different laws. but the rules are the same.

1. Evidence of extortion or blackmail.

 2. Forgery.

 3 insults or threats

  Now I remember little. in any case, you should start with your own lawyer. it takes a long time. without your lawyer? with you or who will not talk.

you should go consult a lawyer in your country primarily
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Firstly what sum of money are you talking about?
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Firstly what sum of money are you talking about?

well Above 3000 usd. ( current conversion rate with euro approx 1.4)

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Firstly what sum of money are you talking about?

it depends on your country's counsel. I do not know. I know that in different countries the judicial system works differently. but it is always necessary to start with a lawyer in your country.
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Никогда не оправдывайся, если ты невиновен. Если в вас бросают грязью, к вам может и не долететь. А руки того, кто это делает, останутся в грязи. Люблю вас всех.

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Firstly what sum of money are you talking about?

well Above 3000 usd. ( current conversion rate with euro approx 1.4)

i think this is enough change for Russian authority to take is seriously i hope