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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #150 on: July 07, 2016, 03:16:13 PM »
One of us has hair, much less body fat, family and [ yes] ethics... We are probably about the same age, but only one of us needs make up stuff / comment  on the other's lifestyle - constantly  -and refer to one's partner as a 'bint' and deny it's meaning between Brits...  :coffeeread:

I doubt you are referring to me. I am way younger than you and have more hair.  :whist11:
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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #151 on: January 08, 2017, 09:29:56 AM »


No, but state and EU funded, and EU biased....

There is NO basis to back up your contention and the funding of the BBC is a matter of public scrutiny


http://www.politics.co.uk/reference/bbc

If its the truth, then they do not publish/support/show it... :coffeeread:

YES.. they do ...

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/eu_funding
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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #152 on: January 08, 2017, 09:47:00 AM »
One of us has hair, much less body fat, family and [ yes] ethics... We are probably about the same age, but only one of us needs make up stuff / comment  on the other's lifestyle - constantly  -and refer to one's partner as a 'bint' and deny it's meaning between Brits...  :coffeeread:


I doubt you are referring to me. I am way younger than you and have more hair.  :whist11:

:) Just found this - as you have started moving stuff - again !

I was off course referring to someone else - but  I note you missed out on the body fat, and need to make stuff up about folks personal lives ;)

As for hair - I've even wager that you aren't even correct on that score ...  I wish I had less  :chuckle:

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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #153 on: January 17, 2017, 05:36:08 PM »
Read this:

When I offered you a clear example of why the BBC can't be politically biased -

Then this:

I thought the 'biased' BBC covered the points quite well, here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-32975253

Let's remember the charter ..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/governance/regulatory_framework/charter_agreement.html

some relevant excerpts

"(1) The BBC exists to serve the public interest.
(2) The BBC’s main object is the promotion of its Public Purposes''

so what is the Public Interest / Purpose ?

"The Public Purposes
The Public Purposes of the BBC are as follows—
(a) sustaining citizenship and civil society;
(b) promoting education and learning;
(c) stimulating creativity and cultural excellence;
(d) representing the UK, its nations, regions and communities;
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(e) bringing the UK to the world and the world to the UK;
(f) in promoting its other purposes, helping to deliver to the public the benefit of
emerging communications technologies and services and, in addition, taking a
leading role in the switchover to digital television."


Let's assume, for the purposes of this debate that we are concentrating on points 2 d and e ...

I'd LIKE to think that the Beeb is employing a diverse range of editorial viewpoints when it comes to the news

Certainly, it's 'bias' cannot be said to kowtow to the present govt -

Oh, and this:

Whoops - there ARE checks and balances and the BEEB is accountable for ageism, racism of impartiality - as cases have shown. I wonder how many other TV stns have such accountability  ?

And this.....

As we are talking about the BBC here, it would be great to keep to specifics - as it's News  remit is not profit  / ratings driven - the remit is VERY  clear on impartiality and Britain's interest

His position is clear, yes?

you are repeating his - shot down-  'bollox' re 'lack of impartiality'

Now I'll just leave this here............



Is this you finally admitting the institutional bias of your beloved "impartial" BBC? Remember, this is Panorama, one of the supposed bedrock of serious news and investigative journalism shows.

It was very biased and reminded me of the sort of thing I see on Russian state owned or run by cronies of the state - TV .   THAT annoyed me and I wrote an complained, accordingly.

Behold. Moby sees the light.

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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #154 on: April 23, 2018, 11:20:25 AM »
The 'biased! BBC on the mayor of Odesa and 'dirty money

I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Paradise Papers: Ukraine crime gang hid proceeds in luxury London flats

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43823962
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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #155 on: April 24, 2018, 04:52:14 AM »
For those who think that the BBC is unbiased, is independent, is honest, is trustworthy, here's something to brighten up your day!
http://www.bbc.com/news/stories-43754737

Food for thought for license payers and for those who choose otherwise (Manny).

Maybe it should have its own thread?
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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #156 on: January 27, 2020, 09:55:59 AM »
BBC mocked for airing LeBron James footage in segment about Kobe Bryant’s death
https://nypost.com/2020/01/26/bbc-mocked-for-airing-lebron-james-footage-in-segment-about-kobe-bryants-death/
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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #157 on: January 27, 2020, 10:19:44 AM »
Here's an even better one from both the BBC and the PC Brigade.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51261999

Firms urged to crack down on office football chat

Chartered Management Institute head Ann Francke said sports banter can exclude women and lead to laddish behaviour such as chat about sexual conquests.
"A lot of women, in particular, feel left out," she told the BBC's Today programme.
"They don't follow those sports and they don't like either being forced to talk about them or not being included."


What an absolute turnip of a woman. This endless pursuit of radical leftist ideology, only makes people like here even less relevant than she was yesterday.

I've only ever worked in one office as a young lad many years ago but did you here me complaining when the women who surrounded me, spoke endlessly about their children, reality TV and a spectrum of middle aged mummy drivel? I felt excluded but who cares?!

The worlds gone bonkers, I tell you.

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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #158 on: January 27, 2020, 11:06:08 AM »
BBC mocked for airing LeBron James footage in segment about Kobe Bryant’s death
https://nypost.com/2020/01/26/bbc-mocked-for-airing-lebron-james-footage-in-segment-about-kobe-bryants-death/

Few in Britain knew who he was, but it doesn't excuse such a mistake -..

I had never heard of him either (
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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #159 on: January 27, 2020, 11:09:40 AM »
Here's an even better one from both the BBC and the PC Brigade.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51261999

Firms urged to crack down on office football chat

Chartered Management Institute head Ann Francke said sports banter can exclude women and lead to laddish behaviour such as chat about sexual conquests.
"A lot of women, in particular, feel left out," she told the BBC's Today programme.
"They don't follow those sports and they don't like either being forced to talk about them or not being included."


What an absolute turnip of a woman. This endless pursuit of radical leftist ideology, only makes people like here even less relevant than she was yesterday.

I've only ever worked in one office as a young lad many years ago but did you here me complaining when the women who surrounded me, spoke endlessly about their children, reality TV and a spectrum of middle aged mummy drivel? I felt excluded but who cares?!

The worlds gone bonkers, I tell you.

Rosco - the BBC is simply repoting

A little visit to bbc.co.uk/sport or downloading the Sports App would show that the Beeb are 'culpable' in distracting workers )


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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #160 on: July 02, 2020, 06:15:52 AM »


No its a TV tax extracted under threat of court and a criminal record if you don't pay. But not when Boris decriminalises it soon.....

repeating nonsense will not make it 'fact'..

It's a licence and it is STILL an offence not to pay it ..

Wrong. The government owns Channel 4 as well. Wipe the egg from your chin and eat some crow, Mr TV Expert.

1/ The govt doesn't own the BBC ... and your own stance is the BBC is biased and lefty, which proves the govt doesn't control it ...although it's going to TRY to ....

2/ Channel 4 is owned by ...the PUBLIC ..the Independent Broadcasting Authority  and is INDEPENDENT..raising most of i's funding commercially..

 
Indeed, I am the TV expert .. and I note you didn't bother to counter the BBC is not govt owned or any point I made about how things work in Russia ...
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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #161 on: July 02, 2020, 10:35:40 AM »
Wiser posters will be amused to note only MY post got moved...  :ROFL:

It's all so familiar to those used to Former Soviet times and how things are going in Russia
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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #162 on: July 02, 2020, 10:55:06 AM »
2/ Channel 4 is owned by ...the PUBLIC ..the Independent Broadcasting Authority  and is INDEPENDENT..raising most of i's funding commercially..

Channel 4 is not owned by the public. Its owned by the IBA. The IBA is a governmental organisation.

The owner is listed as UK Government Investments in Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Four_Television_Corporationjjgufugftyftgyftyoip

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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #163 on: July 02, 2020, 11:25:25 AM »
Channel four is PUBLICLY owned ..  it is NOT controlled by the govt ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Broadcasting_Authority

Carry on digging and moving posts around, when busted

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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #164 on: July 02, 2020, 12:10:01 PM »
Channel four is PUBLICLY owned .. 

Your natural English is failing you again. Do you know the meaning of the words you use?

Here, learn something: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_ownership

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State ownership, also called government ownership and public ownership, is the ownership of an industry, asset, or enterprise by the state or a public body

 :dh:
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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #165 on: July 02, 2020, 01:18:13 PM »
mobbie your English skills are pretty bad  :ROFL:

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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #166 on: July 03, 2020, 12:19:28 AM »
 :'(

Q: Do the govt CONTROL C4 ?

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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #167 on: July 03, 2020, 04:10:54 AM »
:'(

Q: Do the govt CONTROL C4 ?

The question was ownership, not control. You stated the government didn’t own Channel Four, I’ve proved you wrong, as they do.

I’m not familiar with who has editorial control or influence at C4, stop swerving.
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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #168 on: July 03, 2020, 05:21:44 AM »
:'(

Q: Do the govt CONTROL C4 ?

The question was ownership, not control.

Ahh the classic Moby swerve.

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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #169 on: July 03, 2020, 08:51:40 AM »

The question was ownership, not control. You stated the government didn’t own Channel Four, I’ve proved you wrong, as they do.

The STATE own C4, in that it is an asset, but it is INDEPENDENT of govt control.. Do you know what the IBA is ?

IF the govt wanted to sell C4 that's about the extent of their control

I’m not familiar with who has editorial control or influence at C4, stop swerving.

I am, and it's not the govt ..

I'm not 'swerving' as I keep pointing out the BBC / ITV , C4, Five, SKY's editorials are not controlled / influenced by govt ... Unlike all the large RU TV channels ...which is the point you seem to wish to avoid ...
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Re: The BBC Debate
« Reply #170 on: July 22, 2020, 06:03:57 AM »
https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/22/labour-apologises-pays-substantial-damages-anti-semitism-whistleblowers-13022006/

Corbyn's Labour was investigated by the long running BBC Panorama investigative series and the then Labour Party tried to slur those investigating anti Semitic behaviour.

In the High Court dames were awarded to the whistle-blowers and the journalist.

First Tony Blair and 'WMD' and now this....

Next time your read of BBC bias to the left or right from someone....

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