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Offline Turboguy

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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2013, 12:54:12 PM »
Kherson isn't the best of places if you're on your own, especially if it's your first time to Ukraine.

Not many places over there are very good if you are on your own.  At least if he needs a plan B there is a half decent agency there. 

I only had one lady asking for gifts in advance.   That continued while I was there and I have to say that she cared more about what she could get than building a relationship.  That would concern me a bit.  Hopefully you can work out a phone call or skype.   I would be a little concerned about her sincerity if it were me.


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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #31 on: July 15, 2013, 03:30:24 PM »


Man down...I'm a Pittsburgh boy.  We have our own language...we're yinzer nation!


Heck yes,  When you get her here after she redds up the place yinz can go to the Burg and maybe catch a Stiller game or maybe just go down the the crick and have a pop and a sammich.  Of course you can make a day trip down to the Yock or just go dahntahn and walk around the Strip. 

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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #32 on: July 15, 2013, 03:42:32 PM »
Kherson isn't the best of places if you're on your own, especially if it's your first time to Ukraine.

Not many places over there are very good if you are on your own.  At least if he needs a plan B there is a half decent agency there. 

I only had one lady asking for gifts in advance.   That continued while I was there and I have to say that she cared more about what she could get than building a relationship.  That would concern me a bit.  Hopefully you can work out a phone call or skype.   I would be a little concerned about her sincerity if it were me.

I am try to work everything out to see if I'm wasting my time.  But please understand, I am taking this seriously.  By that I mean before I even started this thread I was working on back up plans.  The pros/cons and financial implications of pulling back to Odessa or Kiev where I could still spin it into a really exciting adventure.  I'm not someone that wants to sit on a beach.  So still touring eastern Europe is the kind of thing that would be a lot of fun for me and is probably something I would have done regardless.  My uncle has done it several times and loved it.  The history and the culture, all of it really is interesting in to me.  I've checked out the train and bus options to get back.  The cost of flying from Odessa back to Pittsburgh when originally has planned on it being Kiev.  I even was looking at the Visa requirements should plan B present the opportunity to check out parts of Russia.  I already know Russia requires more than a passport like Ukraine.  I really don't have any belief that this is something where you just hop on a plane, meet some girl and suddenly everything is wonderful like a room full of puppies and kittens happily playing together.  I am trying to be realistic.


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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #33 on: July 15, 2013, 08:05:53 PM »
  If there’s one thing I can say about myself, I’ve never been one to follow a crowd.  I’m happy to make my own decisions and go down the roads I want to go down…even if it’s not the conventional path. 

That sounds like a good way to be.  I think I have been much the same myself.  It is not always easy but there are a lot of plusses.

If that trip doesn't work out for you Russia might be a good option.  It does require a visa but that is not a big deal.  I don't think it would work for a last minute plan B.  If you do try Russia stay away from Moscow and St Petersburg except as a tourist.   Look in places like Omsk, Barnaul and other places in Siberia.  My wife is from Barnaul by the way.

I would also suggest if you need a plan B to think about places like the Stans or Moldova.  Stay away from Odessa and there are better places than Kiev. 

It sounds to me like you have a good start on getting a handle on what it takes to succeed.  Read all you can here.  It is far easier and cheaper to learn from the mistakes of others than to have to learn from your own.

It can be quite an adventure and when you find the right woman it is worth everything you have to go through and even more.

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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #34 on: July 15, 2013, 09:03:52 PM »


Man down...I'm a Pittsburgh boy.  We have our own language...we're yinzer nation!


Heck yes,  When you get her here after she redds up the place yinz can go to the Burg and maybe catch a Stiller game or maybe just go down the the crick and have a pop and a sammich.  Of course you can make a day trip down to the Yock or just go dahntahn and walk around the Strip. 

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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2013, 04:19:37 AM »
Maybe asking for a gift is a way to test if you are serious. Asking for an expensive and pijntless gift (eg. money, jewelry) would be a professional scammer.

Is it worth a bet of under $100? Your call.

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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #36 on: July 16, 2013, 05:46:26 AM »
Maybe asking for a gift is a way to test if you are serious. Asking for an expensive and pijntless gift (eg. money, jewelry) would be a professional scammer.

Is it worth a bet of under $100? Your call.

You do make a valid point and I understand cultural norms are different.  So maybe that isn't the best thing for me to be looking at right now.  However, I sent her an e-mail lets meet up for a video chat at this certain time.  If that time doesn't work, tell me exactley what time does.  That seems really simple.  If she does want to talk and get to me she'll make it happen.  If her interest is not getting to know me...she'll deflect it.

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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #37 on: July 16, 2013, 06:42:42 AM »
It is going to be interesting to see if she does skype with you.   It is a plus that you met her on Elena's.  The one scammer that asked me for presents in advance was also from Elena's so it isn't foolproof but had you said A web or the like I would have been more concerned.  Just because she is the first girl you have really connected with doesn't mean it is the last.  Every so often one comes along that we really feel a bond with and like there could be a future.  If this one does go belly up there will be others and one will turn out to be the right one.   You seem like you have a good head on your shoulders and are someone that would be a great catch for the right woman.  Sometimes it just takes time.  Took me next to forever but persistence pays off.

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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #38 on: July 16, 2013, 05:38:41 PM »
You seem like you have a good head on your shoulders and are someone that would be a great catch for the right woman.  Sometimes it just takes time.  Took me next to forever but persistence pays off.

Thank you very much.  That’s a huge compliment.  The man I respect most in the world is the one that taught how to be a gentleman, husband and family man and that is my grandfather.  He didn’t do it by words, he did it by example.  I thank him for it.  He played a large role in me being the man I am today.

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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #39 on: July 16, 2013, 06:47:25 PM »
How did the phone conversation go?


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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #40 on: July 16, 2013, 07:19:42 PM »
How did the phone conversation go?

So far, sadly...excuses why it didn't happen...

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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #41 on: July 16, 2013, 08:23:01 PM »
What were the excuses?
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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2013, 08:32:37 PM »
How did the phone conversation go?

So far, sadly...excuses why it didn't happen...

I'd love to hear the excuses.  I keep a list of excuses why FSUW won't go on skype.  It's a fairly long list.  It's likely I've heard the ones she gave you, but one never knows.  I've said before that if excuse-making were an Olympic event the Ukrainian women's team would take the gold medal in five out of every six Olympics.

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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2013, 08:33:51 PM »
What were the excuses?

Pretty much I'm not home at the moment.  But to be honest, I didn't see her response until I got home which was close to 1:30 in the morning her time.  And she did e-mail and ask me when I was free.

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Re: Where was this girl trying to go?
« Reply #44 on: July 16, 2013, 09:33:22 PM »
How did the phone conversation go?

So far, sadly...excuses why it didn't happen...

I'd love to hear the excuses.  I keep a list of excuses why FSUW won't go on skype.  It's a fairly long list.  It's likely I've heard the ones she gave you, but one never knows.  I've said before that if excuse-making were an Olympic event the Ukrainian women's team would take the gold medal in five out of every six Olympics.
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