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In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« on: July 05, 2013, 11:49:28 AM »
Well I finally made it to Ukraine after nearly a year writing to one girl who showed up and one I wrote to for about 4 months who did not even though I went to the town she was registered in but a no show because her grandmother was sick and dying in another town. She even disappeared off the site. I met both on charming brides and am in Melitopol at the moment leaving on Sunday. I met Olga last Saturday at 7 as arranged, she got a phone call after about half an hour and had to go which was fine but arranged for the day after. We went for a meal with the interpreter she brought to the first meeting who was money mad and charging by the hour. I hadn't been to the bank and running low on cash Olga helped me out with 30 grivna which I paid back the next day which she did not want to take but I insisted. Our next meeting Olga got a headache and went home after 2 hours. We arranged the next day at 5 but I was met by the interpreter and told Olga could not make it but gave no explanation but was told that she would contact me at the hotel. Basically she had disappeared along with the interpreter so I got on to the agency in Kharkov by email and they gave me the address and number for the local office and told me that I had a meeting at 5 with Olga which I knew nothing about until they told me. The time has come and gone they stayed an hour and Olga gave me the excuse that her grandmother was sick and needed an operation she had been in a different town and had came back because she was worried about me, the interpreter also said they planned on coming to the hotel anyway at 5 and Olga had to leave Melitopol again at 7. When I asked would I see her before I left the reply was if she got back to town on time but write her when I am home and let her know about the journey. I am sure that the agency got on to them and forced the meeting. Honestly am shocked by all this and the hotel gave the ukrainian guy who was next door my room key and he walked in while I was in bed and went straight for my BlackBerry PlayBook. I also discovered Olga has an email account in English. She was saying some English words here and there during the short time we did see each other, I will be asking her to write me with her email address when I send the letter when I get home and if she declines I will say goodbye. Any advice from the guy's or gals with more experience would be great thanks.

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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2013, 11:58:38 AM »
There appears to be a rash of ill, hospitalized, and even dying grandmothers in Ukraine lately.

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Any advice from the guy's or gals with more experience would be great thanks.

I suggest changing your approach entirely.  Stop using these agencies; you don't seem to have had much luck with them.  And if you like a girl don't keep her waiting a year for a visit; very few of them are willing to wait this long for you.  You're not that far of a flight from Ukraine.

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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2013, 12:01:47 PM »
Which site were you using to meet these women?
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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2013, 12:04:42 PM »
True I was just being careful, the flight over was a disaster too. Lost luggage and a stay in Kiev. I used charming brides. I said it to the agency in an email about the sick granny's round here no reply.

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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2013, 12:08:53 PM »
True I was just being careful, the flight over was a disaster too. Lost luggage and a stay in Kiev. I used charming brides. I said it to the agency in an email about the sick granny's round here no reply.

Forget it. was a similar story with a guy from India. but he did not have time to come to Kharkov. I found this agency through the Kharkov newspaper and internet. it was a scam. Typically, these agencies do not provide that men can come to the meeting.
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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2013, 12:12:30 PM »
I will be asking her to write me with her email address when I send the letter when I get home and if she declines I will say goodbye.

What for? You know she is not interested in you so what the point of carrying on writting emails?
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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2013, 12:18:12 PM »
The agency wanted to organise everything but I did it myself, there was not much bad info on the net bout the site. Yeah you're right time to cut this lot loose.

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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2013, 12:42:52 PM »
According to the ratio of foreigners to Russian girls

particularly interesting comments. as Russian compatriots are doing a review of Russian women

"and yes, the ladies are terrible-materialistic to the core, so the aliens escape. therefore in contact with a normal girl, they look for the deception. " - comment
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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2013, 01:04:08 PM »
Honestly am shocked by all this and the hotel gave the ukrainian guy who was next door my room key and he walked in while I was in bed and went straight for my BlackBerry PlayBook.
How many bones in his face did you break?
Maybe you just broke his arms? Legs?

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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2013, 01:05:56 PM »
I wont sugar coat it Johnny, and others are welcome to disagree. But here goes.......

Well I finally made it to Ukraine after nearly a year writing to one girl

Way too long. Next time aim for within three months. Ireland to Ukraine is only a short hop after all. Because of that, she knew you was not serious before you arrived.

because her grandmother was sick and dying in another town.

Classic get out excuse. Nearly as old as the "I have no mobile phone" gag.

I met both on charming brides

I have no personal experience of this site - but some might say no smoke without fire......

I met Olga last Saturday at 7 as arranged, she got a phone call after about half an hour and had to go

She didn't like you. The phone call was a pre-arranged get out for her.

but arranged for the day after.

Lets have some cash out of this guy........

We went for a meal with the interpreter she brought to the first meeting who was money mad and charging by the hour.

This is textbook.......

I hadn't been to the bank and running low on cash Olga helped me out with 30 grivna which I paid back the next day which she did not want to take but I insisted.

Less than three Euros.

Our next meeting Olga got a headache and went home after 2 hours.

You didn't spend enough.

We arranged the next day at 5 but I was met by the interpreter and told Olga could not make it but gave no explanation but was told that she would contact me at the hotel. Basically she had disappeared along with the interpreter

They decided you were not a money earner for them. Bye bye.

so I got on to the agency in Kharkov by email and they gave me the address and number for the local office and told me that I had a meeting at 5 with Olga which I knew nothing about until they told me. The time has come and gone they stayed an hour and Olga gave me the excuse that her grandmother was sick and needed an operation she had been in a different town and had came back because she was worried about me, the interpreter also said they planned on coming to the hotel anyway at 5 and Olga had to leave Melitopol again at 7. When I asked would I see her before I left the reply was if she got back to town on time but write her when I am home and let her know about the journey.

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I am sure that the agency got on to them and forced the meeting.

Better than giving you a refund.

You need to read here way more fella.

Most of that is textbook stuff. Had you been the type of guy to throw money around, you would have got a day or two more company [only] from her and her friendly translator. Sushi and shopping would have been the agenda.

Chalk it up to experience, go home, and next time do it properly after reading everything you can find here.
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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2013, 01:11:33 PM »
I presume this is a pay-per-letter/per minute video chat agency. Correct?
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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2013, 01:13:30 PM »
Agree with what Manny wrote, best off ditching all your ties with this company, enjoy the last couple of days of your stay and read a lot on here.

If I was you now, I'd find the nearest bar which has some foriegn folk in, get yourself a wingman and hit a couple of clubs.

Practice your chatting up technique and use it for your next visit.

Surely someone here can recommend a bar to visit, no point in finding an agency with a day to go.
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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2013, 01:18:46 PM »
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Less than three Euros.


Already had enough for the words bye bye. Did you go to the meeting and no money?


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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2013, 01:26:00 PM »
Firstly he got a smack in the mouth and ran off cos he was leaving then and I had a go at the desk in the hotel for giving out a key for the room. Basically you ar right the interpreter was showing me jewellers shops and stuff but I wasn't biting the bait and I am not stupid wit money when it comes to women. Olga herself ate only ice cream and the both drank juice. She was done up the second day and I will go home if I get there without being robbed and murdered and chalk it up to experience. Major learning curve and it's lucky I don't drink or they would have really had me. They tried getting me to a nightclub and to drink but had a feeling I would have got a beatin and robbed by some of their buddies. A lucky escape! I had money but needed to change it and did so. Yeah they were back the next day and then when I wasn't spending only the interpreter turned up with the get out granny plan. I slipped into the meeting this evening that I went out after being ditched and had a couple of girls back which I did and today which made poor old olgas face change fairly rapid.

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Re: In Ukraine and it's a disaster.
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2013, 01:35:31 PM »
Put in your shoes I might have a change of plan, get yourself out of Kharvok tomorrow on the bus or whatever, stay in kiev for the night, closer to the airport for your flight and means you can have a fun night out on Saturday.

There's plenty a bar in Kiev I can tell you about that will almost guarantee you'll hook up with some English talking folk who are looking for wingmen also, there's plenty of places to go, women are friendly and it gets you out of your current situation, specially if they know you have some Euro's floating about.

My guess is they booked this hotel for you? or recommended it?

Need some recommendations for places to go in Kiev and a cheap apartment let me know.

Good luck.
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