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Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« on: April 15, 2013, 03:00:24 PM »
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I  logged into Anastasia for fun right now. My profile has no photo, yet about 10 women per minute invite me to video chat (of course at a cost of about a 1 USD per minute).
 
Tell me, what are the odds that most of the invites are not coming from those being paid to invite me to chat?
 
It's up to about 90 now, with lots of Chinese as well. Of course all those young Chinese girls are logged in ready to chat without pay..at anywhere between 2 and 4 am there. :lol:

I suppose they are only hoping to win that Odessa car contest.

Aweb doing Chinese women now? That's a big market! Or will be........
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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2013, 04:29:13 PM »
Really?

Given the one child policy and the over preference for sons over daughters, I would think China would be one of the worst places on Earth to seek a bride.

But, if AWeb is going there must be a market. What am I missing?
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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2013, 04:41:11 PM »
The one-child policy has been in force long enough to have made an impact on the male/female ratio in China, but I read a recent article that said there were many educated, professional women over the age of 26 or so who were unmarried.  Here it is:

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Over 27? Unmarried? Female? In China, you could be labelled a "leftover woman" by the state - but some professional Chinese women these days are happy being single.

Huang Yuanyuan is working late at her job in a Beijing radio newsroom. She's also stressing out about the fact that the next day, she'll turn 29.

"Scary. I'm one year older," she says. "I'm nervous."

Why?

"Because I'm still single. I have no boyfriend. I'm under big pressure to get married."

Huang is a confident, personable young woman with a good salary, her own apartment, an MA from one of China's top universities, and a wealth of friends.

Still, she knows that these days, single, urban, educated women like her in China are called "sheng nu" or "leftover women" - and it stings.

Who are you calling "leftover"? Huang Yuanyuan (front) and her colleague Wang Tingting
She feels pressure from her friends and her family, and the message gets hammered in by China's state-run media too.

Even the website of the government's supposedly feminist All-China Women's Federation featured articles about "leftover women" - until enough women complained.

State-run media started using the term "sheng nu" in 2007. That same year the government warned that China's gender imbalance - caused by selective abortions because of the one-child policy - was a serious problem.

National Bureau of Statistics data shows there are now about 20 million more men under 30 than women under 30.

"Ever since 2007, the state media have aggressively disseminated this term in surveys, and news reports, and columns, and cartoons and pictures, basically stigmatising educated women over the age of 27 or 30 who are still single," says Leta Hong-Fincher, an American doing a sociology PhD at Tsinghua University in Beijing.

Census figures for China show that around one in five women aged 25-29 is unmarried.

The proportion of unmarried men that age is higher - over a third. But that doesn't mean they will easily match up, since Chinese men tend to "marry down", both in terms of age and educational attainment.

"There is an opinion that A-quality guys will find B-quality women, B-quality guys will find C-quality women, and C-quality men will find D-quality women," says Huang Yuanyuan. "The people left are A-quality women and D-quality men. So if you are a leftover woman, you are A-quality."

But it's the "A-quality" of intelligent and educated women that the government most wants to procreate, according to Leta Hong-Fincher. She cites a statement on population put out by the State Council - China's cabinet - in 2007.

"It said China faced unprecedented population pressures, and that the overall quality of the population is too low, so the country has to upgrade the quality of the population."

Some local governments in China have taken to organising matchmaking events, where educated young women can meet eligible bachelors.

The goal is not only to improve the gene pool, believes Fincher, but to get as many men paired off and tied down in marriage as possible - to reduce, as far as possible, the army of restless, single men who could cause social havoc.

But the tendency to look down on women of a certain age who aren't married isn't exclusively an attitude promoted by the government.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21320560


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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2013, 04:51:21 PM »
I apologise.
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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2013, 09:20:07 PM »
What am I missing?

Thin women from a poor country.

There are ebooks already..........

 Yeah but you would have to be attracted to Asian women. I'm not one of them. Having been to Asian countries, I can safely say my interest in females lie elsewhere.

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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2013, 12:18:24 PM »
Aweb doing Chinese women now? That's a big market! Or will be........

Manny -
yes, seems they have jumped in there..
No idea how the affiliate network was set up , but seems they have it in place
and operating.
It would seem a big emmerging market

she had a hip with bad habits , and a shake that was a bit obscene

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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2013, 02:42:28 PM »
Aweb doing Chinese women now? That's a big market! Or will be........

Manny -
yes, seems they have jumped in there..
No idea how the affiliate network was set up , but seems they have it in place
and operating.
It would seem a big emmerging market

Its a huge market. As Russia once was. Men have been going there for years and quietly importing wives but it has never hit the mainstream media much for some reason. Anyone who has been to Scandinavia knows those guys fondness for those type of women. You cant miss them.

Donho, I never liked the idea of Oriental women that much (from what we generally see here), but look at some of Psy's music videos (OK, he is from Korea but similar genetic), some of the women in those are smokin with very western features.

A pal of mine goes to China very often on business. Japan too. It seems many of those women like us. Disapproving locals call them "bananas" - yellow on the outside, white on the inside.

Its probably the new MOB market as the doors of the FSU close.
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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2013, 03:46:36 PM »
Manny have you been to California or Hawaii? Chinese everywhere. Even before Hong Kong reverted back to China there were large inflows of Chinese, now there's even more Chinese in the US. Apparently it's easy for Chinese to get a visa to the US. US colleges and universities are full of Chinese students.

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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2013, 04:01:58 PM »
Manny have you been to California or Hawaii? Chinese everywhere. Even before Hong Kong reverted back to China there were large inflows of Chinese, now there's even more Chinese in the US. Apparently it's easy for Chinese to get a visa to the US. US colleges and universities are full of Chinese students.

Same here in England Bill, it's an easy entry route for Visa, which the UK is meant to be making harder, I know many chinese who live in Birmingham who use this as way of entry, yes birmingham of all places in the world they still choose to move to ;D

Although I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, it's not ethical, honest.
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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2013, 04:12:18 PM »
Manny have you been to California or Hawaii? Chinese everywhere. Even before Hong Kong reverted back to China there were large inflows of Chinese, now there's even more Chinese in the US. Apparently it's easy for Chinese to get a visa to the US. US colleges and universities are full of Chinese students.

Same here in England Bill, it's an easy entry route for Visa, which the UK is meant to be making harder, I know many chinese who live in Birmingham who use this as way of entry, yes birmingham of all places in the world they still choose to move to ;D

Although I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, it's not ethical, honest.

I'm told, I've no way to judge the credibility, that for many Chinese American colleges and universities are the ticket to jobs in the US and citizenship. If America doesn't work out they can go back to China and an American education can lead to high paying jobs in China.

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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2013, 06:31:40 PM »
Aweb aka Anastasia Date has been set up in China for at least 3 or 4 years.  You guys just noticed that?  They have also been in Africa for about the same time, and South America (as AmoLatina) for about the same time.

For guys who actually want to take a tour, the tours to South America and China are quite a bit less than the tours to Ukraine (big surprise, right?).
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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2013, 01:39:18 AM »
Anteros, taking the tours is not what it is all about.

Adate are at the start of an ongoing PR campaign with the purpose of altering perceptions of their business. An interesting point that has been coming out is that they understand that for the overwhelming majority of clients a person to person meeting will never happen.

As I noted elsewhere I am sure that they will be deprecating the use of the words marriage and bride in relation to their business. They may not be the first to take a move to a new paradigm but I wager that they actually have the balls to pull it off.

The words from their new mouthpiece are very similar to those that were uttered before by others. Given what I have seen of the public pronouncements I bet that I know how the women will be motivated to chat online without ever being paid a wage. ;-)

The upshot of this is that place becomes largely irrelevant, Internet access and a degree of economic needs are much more important. China needs have no fears of an exodus of nubile young women to the US. This is not about marriage.
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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2013, 03:25:27 PM »
Anteros, taking the tours is not what it is all about.



Agreed.  Tours are for some guys, not for me.  I remember a few years ago I was corresponding to a lady on Adate and expressed my concern that she would be at one of the socials.  She wrote emphatically that as soon as they started sending her text msgs to invite her, she turned her phone off.  She had heard all about them and did not want any part of it, she only wanted to meet somebody who she had extensive correspondence and phone calls with.

I only mentioned tours because it is a way for some guys to get over their fears and get their feet wet.
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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2013, 09:54:59 PM »


Don ho, I never liked the idea of Oriental women that much (from what we generally see here), but look at some of Posy's music videos (OK, he is from Korea but similar genetic), some of the women in those are smoking with very western features.


 I tuned in to that Posy guy's video after I heard it received one billion views, a first on You Tube. But it didn't do anything for me. Like I said I've been there, and only my little Human Heater kept my attention. I remember what it was like SO many years ago, walking the lonely streets of Ukraine, and saying to myself how glad I was to of taken a walk outside. Not a day went by in those months spent in country that I didn't see someone that got my fancy.


 It seems many of those women like us. Disapproving locals call them "bananas" - yellow on the outside, white on the inside.

  Vendelo referred to them as Twinkies in his TR. Maybe bananas work in the UK, and Twinkies work in the US.

 


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Re: Chinese Women: The New Ukraine?
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2013, 11:21:56 PM »
What am I missing?

Thin women from a poor country.



China, Is in some ways like Russia and Ukraine. A wide disparity between those who have and have not ~ between those in power or in the upper echelon's of businesses and the rest of the population. As well as a healthy dose of corruption and nepotism.

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