Anastasia.com scam or real?

[John Petaca]

Hello TomT.
She is in the agency for 4 years. Today still there.
I was writing for 4 months.
Anastasia gave me his personal email, after the 16 letters.
For personal mail, she swore her love.
When I confirmed my trip to Ukraine, began to cool.
I was there, and the meeting was not possible. She said she was traveling to Crimea.
At that time, I wrote five other girls.
I did so because Anastasia recommended maintaining contact with 10 or 12 girls at once. According to them, is much easier to succeed in the election.
With the other five girls was not possible the meeting.
On his return to Spain, I sent several sms to Ekaterina.
She did not answer any. However, when I wrote throughAnastasia, got an immediate response.
There are over our communications.
Then, hurt by the deception, I was investigating its presence in the Agency.
I noticed that the time and day she was there, he agreed
in the presence of 7 other girls.
  I played on the schedule that you can read in the profile of the girls, who was writing letters in series. With intervals of 1 to 5 minutes. When a day was not registered her presence, the other7 girls also went to the agency.
Much later I discovered ruadventures.
Everything would have been different ...
I would not surprise me that Anastasia has tried to control RUA.
They are very powerful.

[John Petaca]

Hello Mendeleyev.

The number of people at a girl sends letters to Western men, it is very important. You know better than me the mentality of the Russian and Ukrainian girl. These girls, if they are honest, do not play to write letters. They want to find their match in these agencies. Girls who charge for every letter they write, they do to earn a few dollars. The more letters, more dollars.

I see that you are a busy man.
Thanks for writing this so long letter.
I know there are other sites. Thank you.

You can answer my question? :
What makes a Slavic girl 22 years writing letters for 4 years? And always with a cadence of 10 to 12 men.
I'll give you another hint: it's access to their profile matches in days and hours with access to other girls.
When she stops writing for 6 days, the others too.
When it comes to their profile at 3 o'clock in the morning, the others too.
You should know that translators are not at that time in the local agency to help the girls. I also know.
Why some of those girls coordinated with Ekaterina
living in other cities located at 130 and 500 kms?

Long ago I've healed the wounds that made me Ekaterina.
Now is the time to help others. Thank you.

[AvHdB]

Long ago I've healed the wounds that made me Ekaterina.
Now is the time to help others. Thank you.

? ? ?  Are you now the repentent Ekaterina?

Curious have you read any threads or trip reports - you can read how to do this or how better not to do this.

So you know most Slavic "girls" do not write letters for 4 years starting at the age of 18. At 3 am there time they are very asleep or busy with other activities.

I tend to doubt that Manny the owner of RUA will allow anyone (except perhaps Mrs. Manny) to control him.

AvHdB

[John Petaca]

Dear Avhdb:

I see that you are not very objective.
I also see that you know everything ....
You want to torpedo?
It tries to attack or to collaborate in a discussion to get some education?

Anyway, thanks for bothering to write and give life to this forum.

[AvHdB]

   &   

go get em 

[Brasscasing]

Dear Avhdb:

I see that you are not very objective.
I also see that you know everything ....
You want to torpedo?
It tries to attack or to collaborate in a discussion to get some education?

Anyway, thanks for bothering to write and give life to this forum.

John,

We have a language translation problem here. You're reporting a scammer but I gotta tell you, I don't see a scam here. I see an unsatisfied customer and maybe someone who perceives themselves to be a jilted boyfriend.

1) Again, maybe a language issue in your telling of it but Av is absolutely correct regarding the 18 year old.

2) You were writing 5 other girls including this one girl and claim no meeting with any of them transpired when you traveled? What arrangements did you make to meet these girls? Is it possible she/they simply didn't wish to meet with you? What part did the agency play in arranging these meetings?

3) How old are you (ballpark)? I ask this as you appear to be writing women in their very early 20's and age may well factor with some of the problems you're encountering.

Brass

[Anteros]

I recently used Anastasia for some fun or whatever you want to call it.  They stroke your ego.  That said, one of the lady's was leaving the site and told me.  I asked if I could have her address where she is going to, and lo and behold they gave me her address (actually they allowed her to give mer her full name and address).  And for no additional fee.  Whether or not the woman is real, may depend on whether or not she approves of you, and thinks that YOU are REAL.

[AvHdB]

If you exchange enough messages (I think 15 in total) you can exchange details.

[sharonhaber00]

If you exchange enough messages (I think 15 in total) you can exchange details.

Is that written in their policy?

Whatever, it doesn't worth the investment, as there are sites where you can pick as much addresses as you like. for example bride.ru (I guess there they don't do it for new car).   

[missAmeno]

... you can pick as much addresses as you like...

    

Do you like to collect addresses?

[sharonhaber00]

... you can pick as much addresses as you like...

    

Do you like to collect addresses?

No. I had membership in that site till I requested from them to stop recurring billing. I did not collect addresses even when I could. 

[John Petaca]

Right. From the 16 cards you get in touch.
In 6 cases, I do not avail.
Email addresses that no one answers
Fake street addresses.
Phone nonexistent.
Not losing the north ....
The business is based on the girls open your letters.
I noticed that one person is contacting 10 men.
Probably more.
It is very laborious to study a range of 0 to $ 20 per card.

[John Petaca]

I noticed that one person is contacting 10 men.
Probably more.

Forgiveness.
I mean, one person manages the profiles of 10 girls.

[sharonhaber00]

Email addresses that no one answers
Fake street addresses.
Phone nonexistent.

Not something to aspire to...

[Brasscasing]

Forgiveness.
I mean, one person manages the profiles of 10 girls.

You don't know this. Even with the language problems I'm starting to get the impression you're making this up as you go along.

I've asked you some questions upthread you've not bothered to answer. Be aware I do not allow unsubstantiated accusations or false allegations towards agencies regardless of reputation.

Brass

[sharonhaber00]

The information that become available in this forum is dangerous for the businesses who based on deceiving people, and valuable for the potential victims.
It shouldn't be preserved behind closed doors!
It should bomb any site throughout the web, so many potential victims will not have to fall to this trap just because they didn't know.

[Brasscasing]

The information that become available in this forum is dangerous for the businesses who based on deceiving people, and valuable for the potential victims.
It shouldn't be preserved behind closed doors!
It should bomb any site throughout the web, so many potential victims will not have to fall to this trap just because they didn't know.

In time you'll learn that there are those that would try to spread rumours or innuendo about agencies and individual women for no other reason than they feel they've been slighted or are unsatisfied with the results of their association with said agencies or women.

There is a difference between being scammed and being an unsatisfied customer. It is encumbant on the member to substantiate his accusations not the forum.

John has not made his case here. He is avoiding relevant questions and continues posting further allegations without substantiating them.

Brass

[AvHdB]

It is very laborious to study a range of 0 to $ 20 per card.

If you insist on using Anastasia than at least write to women where it costs less than $4,= to open a letter! Most likely these women are alive and real. Most agency have a break even of about $5,= per letter so you know. Also if you wish you can from the start just buy the contact details outright, I remember a price of $50,= three years ago.

What I still can not understand is why people continue with the pay for letter program ~ use Mamba or Love Planet.

[chelseaboy]

Because on Anastasia,HRB/RLM,Dream-marriage,Jump4love et all,you will get supermodel quality gorgeous girls/women writing to you,telling you how wonderful you are,and how they can't wait to meet you,then raise a family with you.
Other hotties tend to write about the kind of sex they will be enjoying with you.You name it,they'll be more than happy to participate.They'll delight in telling you the same things when they're on webcam chat too

On other sites,that are not pay per letter/pay to chat,these kind of smokin hot girls/women won't write to you.

I wonder why that is ? 

[sharonhaber00]

Other hotties tend to write about the kind of sex they will be enjoying with you.You name it,they'll be more than happy to participate.They'll delight in telling you the same things when they're on webcam chat too.

Call girls might be cheaper in the long term, yet will fulfill some of your fantasies.   

On other sites,that are not pay per letter/pay to chat,these kind of smokin hot girls/women won't write to you.

I wonder why that is ?

Write in your ad the most constant girl will be rewarded.   

[Anteros]

Correction of what I wrote upthread--

It turns out that they did not give me her address.  They did give me her name, and I found her on V Kontakte.  So far she has not returned my hello to her, but I cannot read Cyrillic so I am not sure I even sent it to her.

They gave me her complete name, but the address they gave me is that of the agency.  So, foiled again.  I think the only way to be successful at this is to live over there for awhile and avoid the agencies.  Just meet people in person and take it from there.  If the odds are 90% against you, it's too much like Vegas!

[John Petaca]

Dear Brasscasing,

Making an accusation is very serious.
Everything I write here can be read by the defendants.
So I believe that only speak from what I can prove.
With evidence or witnesses.
I never hide my head under the wings.

Your questions ...
Before, when someone wrote 16 letters to Anastasia, the agency facilitated the personal data of the girl.
From there,
a) Why not arrange a meeting directly with the girl?
b) Why not buy flowers or a gift ODESSA stores?
c) Why not hire an apartment in Kiev or L'VIV?
d) Why not find an interpreter in place of the appointment?

I'm too young. Find a girlfriend from 18 to 27 years is
more or less normal.
 
Furthermore, I recommend that you set in the profiles of the girls. 99.99% of the candidates seeking exchanges with men 50 to 75 years.
When I've met a few girls during my several trips to Ukraine, I have demonstrated that they support age differences of up to 15 years.
They are mature early.

Sincerely.

[PBRstreetg]

John,
Let me begin with this question: why are you making this thing out to be a cluster ?

I laughed and I laughed again and I stopped (is that how you spell it? I stopped again and asked myself, are you hearing me? I'm glad we had this little talk) NOW do you feel better? Seriously, do you feel better? Best policy is find out for yourself and get back to me when you can party on sir
love, charlie

[TomT]

I'm too young. Find a girlfriend from 18 to 27 years is
more or less normal.

How old is "too young?"

[AvHdB]

I'm too young. Find a girlfriend from 18 to 27 years is
more or less normal.

How old is "too young?"

JP, You have made some 9 postings more or less all complaining about 1st International/Anastasia.

Why not introduce your self, we might have a better idea of who you are and what you are looking for.

If this is not your style we understand. AvHdB