$40,000/month will get you this Russian girl

[Boris]

So, yes, I can say there is stuff that most of us do not know about - I wish that I had been able to learn more from my friend before her death, I and my closest friends still miss her and remember her. Perhaps,and if genuine, the woman in the pics shares some of the same knowledge and that my friend would be worth all the money she asks for.

I totally understand what you're saying. I don't know how guys can live without stuff like golden rain, anal fisting, strap on, trampling, etc.
For just 40K per month she'll be happy to urinate on you any time of day and night. 
Andrew, they have her phone number there, give her a buzz. http://kyrtizanki.ru/216

You have met Andrew already?   

Trampling? Hmm...

[Boris]

I had to click on the link.  She charges $1,500/hour.  And the way I read her ad is that she was charging $50,000/month before.  So perhaps the 40,000/month figure EnglishRussia quoted (in original post) represents a 20% markdown.

For $40,000/month not only would I expect all my sexual fantasies to be fulfilled but I'd also expect her to be doing the cooking, laundry, cleaning, gardening etc around my mansion(s).  Let's face it most of the RUA members here are over 40, many over 50 so we have plenty of spare time after the sex.  While we're making money it's only fair that she should spend her time doing something useful.   

Yep...I'd be spending more time in the whirlpool recovering from the trampling....

[krassavchick]

Eyjafjallajökull surely she would want payment in dollars or euros, far easier to stash away outside of Russia.  If she really does have experience as a high priced escort she would have learned that the world outside of Russia offers far, far more than Russia could ever provide.   

Oh, you would be surprised if you knew how many oligarchs live in Moscow alone.
[/quote]

You took the words right out of my mouth.  I don't think men in the west realise just how many rich people there are in Russia, and their often more generous 

Hands up how many of you have ever had really good sex?
Chances are that in technical terms most guys have NEVER had good sex.
Nice sex, sex with the one you love, sex with the passion of lust  and hormones.

But sex with a trained woman?
Prolly not.
You'd not be thinking about how she looked.

This woman is likely very well trained - look at her age!
She is built for the delight of men (and probably women) and will have been trained in (not just picked up along the way) some first rate skills that her keeper might get to share with some of his friends or those he might like to do a favour for.

For those for whom money just is not an issue (not anyone here I am certain) she will give pleasure and delight that will make her keeper happy.

Or, she COULD be an overvalued early middle aged trollop - or it may be a fake.
BUT the women I described here DO exist. My only surprise and reason why I think it might be a fake is that she has, at some time, placed an ad somewhere.
I'd have expected her to be working from networks and word of mouth.

Well obviously she's a hooker, so she's trained to fake orgasms etc...................  Come on, maybe i'm old school. but nothing can match the feeling of sex/making love between 2 people who genuinely love each other.  It's not a mechanical thing.  That's why Tantra only works with people who have real feelins for each other.  At least that's my полтинник worth anyway !!

[Muzh_1]

So, yes, I can say there is stuff that most of us do not know about - I wish that I had been able to learn more from my friend before her death, I and my closest friends still miss her and remember her. Perhaps,and if genuine, the woman in the pics shares some of the same knowledge and that my friend would be worth all the money she asks for.

I totally understand what you're saying. I don't know how guys can live without stuff like golden rain, anal fisting, strap on, trampling, etc.
For just 40K per month she'll be happy to urinate on you any time of day and night. 
Andrew, they have her phone number there, give her a buzz. http://kyrtizanki.ru/216

You sure got him "pegged."

[Muzh_1]

Well obviously she's a hooker, so she's trained to fake orgasms etc...................  Come on, maybe i'm old school. but nothing can match the feeling of sex/making love between 2 people who genuinely love each other.  It's not a mechanical thing.  That's why Tantra only works with people who have real feelins for each other.  At least that's my полтинник worth anyway !!

Why, oh why do you bother Krassavchick? Don't you know you can put lipstick on a pig's lips; and it is still a pig?

[Slumba]

The thing is that with her I 'learned stuff' sadly not as much as I'd like but she had been well trained when younger. I learned how to apply a single touch to a woman's hand and have her wanting sex -  I learned where to touch a woman on her body, on a place that one can do without fear of being indiscreet, that will have her shiver in anticipation. This might seem ludicrous but it is real and I make no claims for myself only mentioning this to make the point that there are things that can make a real courtesan special, no matter that she has toes that offend our particular sensibilities, or maybe that she was much older, living a different live but would never leave the house without a firm corset and with one of her collection of wigs firmly in place.

Surely a $4.99 e-book is in order...

[andrewfi]

Guys, please do not project your fantasies and fetishes upon me.

I am sure though that for the right money specialists can be found to help you and at pocketbook friendly prices that you can afford.

Krassavchik, you think it unlikely that the bloke who retains this woman will not have a wife that he loves very much? As you probably know, but if not why display your ignorance... Many women who seek a sponsor, which is essentially what this women is doing, will not entertain a bloke who is unmarried.
So, yes there is a difference, each has its place but you made my overall point quite well.
Yes, Andrew, I LOVE meatballs and there is no meat I'd prefer to eat! (Until you eat a fine filet mignon, or have the chance to enjoy a well prepared Kobe.)

[cufflinks]

Well obviously she's a hooker, so she's trained to fake orgasms etc...................  Come on, maybe i'm old school. but nothing can match the feeling of sex/making love between 2 people who genuinely love each other.  It's not a mechanical thing.  That's why Tantra only works with people who have real feelins for each other.  At least that's my полтинник worth anyway !!

Why, oh why do you bother Krassavchick? Don't you know you can put lipstick on a pig's lips; and it is still a pig?

Oink Oink 

[AvHdB]

Hands up how many of you have ever had really good sex?

"really good sex" is dependent on two people.

As for the dolly trolly she is cute but close to sell by date in my opinion. Some men like this sort of fantasy and I will not compete with them or attempt to seek the favour of the females.

Anyways everyone enjoy the romp ~ but spare us foto details.

[cufflinks]

http://kyrtizanki.ru/salon

Upon review imnsho this is perhaps the most "open" and honest site in the history of RUA dating!

Any US based escort site clogged with "click here to enter as you guarantee you are over 18 warnings" (as if that ever stopped a 15 year old from lying to see hot chicks).  Refreshing candor and up front honesty about costs and capabilities.

No endless "mindphock games" as one of my Russian acquaintances is so fond of saying.

Goes back to the old John Paul Getty quote:  "If it flies, floats or phocks - rent it!"

That said - the ladies I am in correspondence with far outclass these flashy lasses - good for a quick hump and pump but not really the type you want to wake up to across the breakfast table each and every day - major reason why this one has to advertise versus already being in her preferred sponsorship situation via word of mouth as Andrew so astutely pointed out.

BTW - Moscow bonus - most of the real ladies of class and breeding are also Spinnakers versus sea anchors and more than happy and capable to contribute to the team bottom line.

[andrewfi]

Hmm... be honest with yourself and us for a moment.
You could not 'compete' with the guys who have fun with these activities, you do not have the wherewithal on several levels - not just the money.

If a woman looking like this one were to enter your life as anything other than a slippery handed fantasy you'd be crowing from dawn to dusk!

'Close to her sell by date', what rubbish. Whether there are more attractive women around or not THIS woman would not be on any shelf that you would ever get to consider making a purchase from.

Hands up how many of you have ever had really good sex?

"really good sex" is dependent on two people.

As for the dolly trolly she is cute but close to sell by date in my opinion. Some men like this sort of fantasy and I will not compete with them or attempt to seek the favour of the females.

Anyways everyone enjoy the romp ~ but spare us foto details.

[AvHdB]

Hmm... be honest with yourself and us for a moment.
You could not 'compete' with the guys who have fun with these activities, you do not have the wherewithal on several levels - not just the money.

If a woman looking like this one were to enter your life as anything other than a slippery handed fantasy you'd be crowing from dawn to dusk!

'Close to her sell by date', what rubbish. Whether there are more attractive women around or not THIS woman would not be on any shelf that you would ever get to consider making a purchase from.

The woman in question looks ridden hard and put to bed wet. But I have not met her and that is based on a single foto.  I might be wrong.

For Christmas and the New Year this year my family will stay in Ischgl at a five star superior hotel, 3 rooms.

I sail in two One Design classes, the Star with Mader's on both sides of the Atlantic as well sail a 15 meter Hanse.

I exhibit and buy as well as sell art of the 19th and 20th century at the TEFAF in Maastricht.

No I could not compete with an ogliarch but an miniarch is an easy game.

So FiFi you do not know me and I do not care to know you. Better not to make assumptions.

[WestCoast]

Hmm... be honest with yourself and us for a moment.
You could not 'compete' with the guys who have fun with these activities, you do not have the wherewithal on several levels - not just the money.

If a woman looking like this one were to enter your life as anything other than a slippery handed fantasy you'd be crowing from dawn to dusk!

'Close to her sell by date', what rubbish. Whether there are more attractive women around or not THIS woman would not be on any shelf that you would ever get to consider making a purchase from.

Hands up how many of you have ever had really good sex?

"really good sex" is dependent on two people.

As for the dolly trolly she is cute but close to sell by date in my opinion. Some men like this sort of fantasy and I will not compete with them or attempt to seek the favour of the females.

Anyways everyone enjoy the romp ~ but spare us foto details.

Andrew what rubbish are you pedalling now?  Why would most men (Charlie Sheen is an obvious exception) want to spend $40,000 or $50,000 a month on a woman who has spent her adult life and probably a portion of her teenage life as a prostitute?  Aside from any STDs and other diseases she may bring into the relationship, is the fact that she is undoubtedly lacking in ethics.  Therefore your valuables and personal safety and the valuables and personal safety of your friends are at risk.  Any associates she has, her pimp, girlfriends or acquaintances are probably criminals so again you probably have to worry about them nicking your valuables and your safety.   

[AvHdB]

A general musing what does surprise me is AndrewFi's "intimate" knowledge of affairs of this sort. I would use a different word than intimate but it seems fitting.

Was there not a poster here a while back who had ties, I believe from marketing to/for the "Skin Trade". No offence to Dylan Thomas.

[Vinnvinny]

I don't know what all the fuss is all about. She want $40k a month but as someone mentioned, there's lots of mega rich blokes in Russia and she will no doubt be lingering with them. They will have seen her in real life and there aint no takers which is why she is hawking herself on the tinternet.

Personally I would want to see her in real life before even committing $4 a month. Her pics are heavily photoshopped and there's usually a good reason for that. In my expert hands I can even make myself look a devilishly handsome bloke and given a few hours at it I could pass for 48 1/2 easy peasy. Caveat emptor as they say.

[nicknick]

I exhibit and buy as well as sell art of the 19th and 20th century at the TEFAF in Maastricht.

I'm seriously impressed. 

I've only been to TEFAF once, a few years ago, but the quality of what was there and the knowledge of the dealers was absolutely second to none.

I've heard how difficult it is to become an exhibitor at TEFAF so I'm sure you must really know your stuff.

[Ade]

Hmm... be honest with yourself and us for a moment.
You could not 'compete' with the guys who have fun with these activities, you do not have the wherewithal on several levels - not just the money.

If a woman looking like this one were to enter your life as anything other than a slippery handed fantasy you'd be crowing from dawn to dusk!

'Close to her sell by date', what rubbish. Whether there are more attractive women around or not THIS woman would not be on any shelf that you would ever get to consider making a purchase from.

Damn, you're a funny fella Andy boy.

I guess your standards are a little lower than I'd thought.

[MBS01]

Hey Westcoast!
You did not include "Tiger Woods" (and his father) in your quote.  Seems that pair have racked up a lot of experience in similier places over the years too.  So soon people forget?

[krassavchick]

Guys, please do not project your fantasies and fetishes upon me.

I am sure though that for the right money specialists can be found to help you and at pocketbook friendly prices that you can afford.

Krassavchik, you think it unlikely that the bloke who retains this woman will not have a wife that he loves very much? As you probably know, but if not why display your ignorance... Many women who seek a sponsor, which is essentially what this women is doing, will not entertain a bloke who is unmarried.
So, yes there is a difference, each has its place but you made my overall point quite well.
Yes, Andrew, I LOVE meatballs and there is no meat I'd prefer to eat! (Until you eat a fine filet mignon, or have the chance to enjoy a well prepared Kobe.)

Andrew......  As usual your replies on the forum display their usual  miasma of inaccurate condescension.  Every time i go out here to a restaurant i see such girls and their sponsors, so i'm well aware of what a sponsor is and the relationship they have with such girls.    I'm sure you rate her TRAINING very highly.  I'll give you some free advice and you'll save yourself $40,000.  Why don't you invite her to your site PLM?  Then again, from what other guys on the forum have said, that site already has plenty of  highly trained girls 

[cufflinks]

A general musing what does surprise me is AndrewFi's "intimate" knowledge of affairs of this sort. I would use a different word than intimate but it seems fitting.

Was there not a poster here a while back who had ties, I believe from marketing to/for the "Skin Trade". No offence to Dylan Thomas.

Not one to defend Andrew too often but I will say that when younger I sailed on boats with Steel "sails" and that would regularly circumnavigate the Globe at a cruising depth of about 400 feet - being former military I am no boy scout - however when younger I was quite arrogant and forward about my skills and youthful appeal to stunningly gorgeous young women - if they were not movie star gorgeous I would not look at them twice - I used the worst cheesy lines and tactics like hitting a shopping mall in a nicer area of the Port we might be in and just walk up to really hot girls in the mall or at the beach and ask "Have you ever had dinner on a Nuclear Submarine?"

No - then meet us at 1600 hours for beer on the pier and a tour of the boat I am sure I can get the cooks to whip something up if you bring a half dozen of your sexiest girl friends (The cooks had already promised me surf and turf or a Pier Chill n'Grill if I would work my magic because they rarely got any time off in port) The ladies I would round up even made the Academy grads drool - but NO fat chix they won't make it through the hatch!  Oh and of course leave the guys at home - with a gaggle of gals they felt safe and every once in a while a mega hottie would show up all by herself - did not want competition - usually after a feed - we would do some whirlwind tour of the port including dancing the night away - exchange snail mail addresses and hasta manana - as fast as we were in port - poof we were gone - so was not much time to cultivate LTRs.

Point is back then I would decry any man who had to pay!  Why - I would think - pay when the cream of the crop is free and eager.

Well with age comes perspective and wisdom and I have to say a professional woman who enjoys her craft and has developed truly serious skills is an experience not to be forgotten - ever!

I now prefer an attractive woman with superior skills to a Supermodel stunnner who just lays there because she never needed to learn any special techniques to get a date.  And if her skills are lacking we normally have a blunt discussion and she either shows a desire to learn or next.  Life is too short.

If I had never paid - I would have never known what I had been missing in my "misspent" youth 

[soyoukan]

i could buy a BMW convertible and a sex toy machine, and still get change.. Plus, no nagging!

[cufflinks]

i could buy a BMW convertible and a sex toy machine, and still get change.. Plus, no nagging!

Got to love British pragmatism - begs the question what type of sex toy machine, plastic, electric or living and breathing 

[Slumba]

i could buy a BMW convertible and a sex toy machine, and still get change.. Plus, no nagging!

That, or a $5 roll of good quality duct tape ...

[erudite]

I have seen lots of better looking women on the streets and in the malls of Kharkov, summer, spring, winter or fall.  Does she give a "menstrual" discount for "women's days"?  $40,000 a month is $1,333 per diem.  She should be willing to negotiate on 7-10 days (not including PMS days).  And after a week or 10 days of continuous driving, I think "the car" would not be as exciting after you had driven it particularly hard.  I mean to say that after you have put it through the paces, what else is there to get excited about? It probably would lose the "new car smell" fairly quickly too.

[cufflinks]

Ironically there is now a global marketplace by an MIT grad for this at:

http://www.seekingarrangement.com/

Interesting that you have to pay and have a premium membership to see what country they last logged in from - more than a few smoking hot Russians typically in NYC or Las Vegas as well as RU and UA...

More educated women seem to go with a budget of "open to negotiation"

Many more forward ladies in the $5K to $10K per month allowance range...

A few in the $10K to $20K range but does not seem to work - sort of like sticker shock compare to open for negotiation.

Seems to be an extremely popular site as the basics are handled in a very frank manner.

Many young USA college age ladies in the $1K to $3K per month range  - seems to be a range for any budget when you calculate the cost of a mistress versus wife and marriage