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Re: Not all endings are happy
« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2011, 12:58:21 PM »

"Listen, I don't care what you think you want, I am *NOT* going to let you marry some b*tch!"  So I have that and "total enlightenment on my deathbed" going for me.  :chuckle:

That's a good girl.  I've seen this here quite a few times.  They get very protective if they think another woman is messing around with a friend.    :laugh:



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Re: Not all endings are happy
« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2011, 01:01:38 PM »
The cynic in me agrees with this.  :chuckle:  Happily, other women can spot this stuff a mile away also, so before I get hitched (if/when) I will have no problem having the future missus vetted by some female friends of mine--including a couple of native speakers....one of whom told me, point blank, "Listen, I don't care what you think you want, I am *NOT* going to let you marry some b*tch!"  So I have that and "total enlightenment on my deathbed" going for me.  :chuckle:

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Good thinking. I had a friend who was married to a Khazak lady (parents were from Moscow) and she offered to read some of her emails. This lady told me I found a gold nugget. They are best friends today. BTW, this lady is the godmother to our son.

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Re: Not all endings are happy
« Reply #47 on: November 04, 2011, 02:08:56 PM »
The sad fact is that many WM marry FSU women who they really don't understand and don't know much about. There are many women here (I'm in Kiev now) of questionable character and values. Heck, just the amount of prostitutes in normal (not sex oriented) dance night clubs is ridiculous. I've never seen such concentration of them anywhere else in the FSU.


I guess there is no prostitution in Russia at all. With a population 3 times higher than Ukraine and there are more prostitutes in UA just shows you the amazingly virtuous and chaste character of the women in Russia.

Right?
Muzh, I don't understand why you take my observations so personally. Boris here is also married to a UW but somehow he understands what I'm saying and agrees. Dugger2 and his lady really enjoy dancing together and so we went to the "Caribbean club" several times. It's a very nice classy place that mostly has Latin dance music playing. This is not the type of place I'd expect to see hookers at in Russia at all actually. I've been to similar type night clubs in Russia and I was never hit on by prostitutes there. Here in Kiev they saw that I was with dugger and his lady but that I didn't have a lady with me and they were coming up to me soliciting almost every time we went there. It was actually irritating to me because if I wanted to meet a woman I could have easily done that, but as you know I'm married and I was there strictly to help dugger2 to have a good time with his lady.

You don't need to be so hypersensitive and protective of Ukraine and Ukrainians because: 1. they can stand up for themselves 2. They will agree with what I say because it's true. I have plenty of family here, in Ukraine and I don't say anything that they themselves haven't said at some point.


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Re: Not all endings are happy
« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2011, 05:20:14 PM »

When you are not a native speaker you will most likely miss many important clues about a woman. Think about it - if you are American and meet an American woman in any kind of setting. 5 minutes chatting with her and you can usually tell if there is something "off" with her. If she has "street" slang and tendencies, or some kind of "roughness" about her, etc you will spot that. Same thing with me, when I talk to an FSU woman I can have a basic idea about her level of education, what kind of upbringing she had and what sort of life she leads. Not being a native Russian speaker doesn't allow you to make some very important determinations which can later result in tragedy such as this one.


The above is very true.

One point and this goes back to my expierence with Masha, listen to your friends of both sexes. I still remember all my women friends say take care and the guys being wow. (me thinking please close your mouth NOW)
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Re: Not all endings are happy
« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2011, 05:27:45 PM »
Somebody needs 5 minutes to assess a woman??  It can be done in five seconds or less. 

Give me a break!

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Re: Not all endings are happy
« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2011, 06:26:04 PM »
You'll never know another person well enouth until you divorce him  :smokin:
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Re: Not all endings are happy
« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2011, 08:43:14 PM »
How long have they been married? Long enough for her to finish med school. Anything could happen during those years,   but it doesn't matter, because what ever happened it is because she is a calculating bitch.  (:) Right? How can anyone know?

I almost divorced my husband when my son was 16, by that time he paid for my mother's visit to Au for my numerous visits to Russia  and for my son's few years in a private school. If we didn't sort our relationship out I'd be divorcing him not because I had no use for him any more but because I felt I couldn't stay with him any longer. We overcame that hurdle but some people don't.

Do you remember KenC and his Lena with whom he was madly in love and for years he insisted it was mutual even though there was 25 years gap? She left him straight after she got her law degree and at the same time when he went almost broke but he was adamant that is was coincidental and there were absolutely more valid reasons for divorce. 

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Re: Not all endings are happy
« Reply #52 on: November 05, 2011, 03:58:48 AM »
It's strange how in these situations it's almost always the women that leave the men though isn't it ?

The financial beneficaries are almost always the women too.

Nuff said.

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Re: Not all endings are happy
« Reply #53 on: November 05, 2011, 04:57:34 AM »
Chelseaboy, yes, agree.

A while ago I met a young woman, we are still friends. She wanted to settle down with me and I thought seriously about it. She is intelligent, good fun, attractive in all senses of the word.
Of course, she is much younger than I.

A significant reason that I did not settle down with her was the advice of somebody who, over the years, I have come to regard very highly and whose profession covers the realm of couples therapy.
Her perspective was that there was nothing wrong with a relationship between people of widely different ages but that I needed to be aware that the relationship would be very unlikely to survive longer than it would take her to graduate from university and get her feet under the table in her first post graduation job.
She was almost certainly correct in her assessment - indeed it should be pretty obvious why this is so.

I considered going down that road but then realized that my situation if this happened five or six years down the road would not be good. She would be able to say goodbye and move on thinking she was doing the right thing for herself but I'd be left alone and in a place where finding a replacement in my life would be MUCH harder.

Time and again, I see that Ulle's perspective was spot on. It ain't that the women are evil but that their lives are going to change and what they needed from us before, the things that made the relationship possible, are no longer needed and that while we older blokes stay in the same place our younger partners move on, as they need and must do.
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Re: Not all endings are happy
« Reply #54 on: November 05, 2011, 10:43:15 PM »
It's strange how in these situations it's almost always the women that leave the men though isn't it ?

The financial beneficaries are almost always the women too.

Nuff said.

I know few cases when not only men have left women but they did everything in their power to remove them from the country by deportation.

I know one gorgeous young woman with 2 Australian children who was talked to moving to Dubai before getting any residential status in Au and was left there to fend for herself and her children. Apparently UAmirates don't have any law about child support, probably not in their culture to abandon women and children like that. She struggle for a  bit while her "husband" was making  big $$ there and had no choice but to go to her parents. Now she lives in my hometown with her two kids with Australian passports and has no means to go to Au, she gets no support from her ex because Au and Ru has no agreement on child support and she doesn't know what to do. She is an excellent baker, here is her site http://www.cakesbyrazilia.com/, but she doesn't make enough money to support all of them.



 

 

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