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Do Animals have any rights in Russia??
« on: August 02, 2011, 03:27:06 AM »
It seems that Russia needs to do a much better job of promoting animal rights:

 
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia — For two years, a 36-year-old bear who performed during the 1980 Moscow Olympics has been kept with other retired circus animals in a rusty old bus parked on the outskirts of St. Petersburg.

Animal rights activists say they receive only minimal care in their cramped and stinking cages.

Katya the bear was a longtime star of the Big St. Petersburg State Circus on Fontanka, where night after night she and another bear delighted children by riding motorcycles around the ring.


http://news.yahoo.com/russias-olympic-bear-kept-caged-parked-bus-072253070.html
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Re: Do Animals have any rights in Russia??
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2011, 09:36:04 AM »
Sad story.

On the whole Russians and Ukrainians adore most animals, but do not always share the same sense of "rights" that many Americans assign to animals. Given the cramped living conditions so prevalent during the the Soviet and post Soviet years and the lack of individualization in those conditions, an animal has been a way to express one's creativity and individual taste.

There is also a difference in perception. Major cities are sometimes seemingly overrun with stray dogs, for instance. We often view that as blight, a result of uncaring. Many Russians however feel that those dogs have the right to be there, to be free from locked in a pound and eventually killed. Many of them see our way of dealing with the problem as inhumane.

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Re: Do Animals have any rights in Russia??
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2011, 10:27:40 AM »
Animals are probably better treated in FSU ....

The LA river basin is so polluted by pet sewage, they regularly have to place beaches off limits in the summer because the bacteria gets so bad.

DISGUSTING!!!!!

What is so bad is the times they do not place the beaches off limits, because the levels are 'acceptable.'

Poor fishes.

And those poor whales.


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Re: Do Animals have any rights in Russia??
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2011, 02:54:56 PM »
Sad story.

On the whole Russians and Ukrainians adore most animals, but do not always share the same sense of "rights" that many Americans assign to animals. Given the cramped living conditions so prevalent during the the Soviet and post Soviet years and the lack of individualization in those conditions, an animal has been a way to express one's creativity and individual taste.

There is also a difference in perception. Major cities are sometimes seemingly overrun with stray dogs, for instance. We often view that as blight, a result of uncaring. Many Russians however feel that those dogs have the right to be there, to be free from locked in a pound and eventually killed. Many of them see our way of dealing with the problem as inhumane.

Letting dogs roam a city unhindered because you do not want to put them to death is one thing; keeping a formerly prized Circus bear in a small stinking cage is something entirely different.  Eventually Russia hopefully will do what they need to do to "fix" dogs and cats so that there are not so many born who will eventually just starve or freeze to death.  And hopefully an animal lover like Putin will step in and free this poor bear from it's small cage and put it on a farm with a keeper who will love it and care for it in a proper and respectful manner.

Link to WSPA, an organization that helps to free and care for Bears:

http://www.wspa.org.au/wspaswork/bears/bearbaiting/

I am not a vegetarian and I cannot read everything on this website, however it does seem that they have an interest in helping wild animals in Russia:

http://www.vita.org.ru/

Okay here is their Link in English:

http://www.vita.org.ru/english/english.htm

Disclaimer:  Giving money to a Russian charity is probably no different then gambling your money away in Las Vegas.
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Re: Do Animals have any rights in Russia??
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2011, 03:03:08 PM »
Hopefully an animal lover will walk out on the Santa Monica pier, pour gasoline all over themselves, and light themselves on fire to stop the polluted environment that they make whales live in?

Right?

I do not think so.  Americans care less about their environment than most Russians.  And that is ironic with more than 3 times the population density, the USA does not do more to take care of our environment than do the Russians.


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Re: Do Animals have any rights in Russia??
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2011, 03:06:23 PM »
Hopefully an animal lover will walk out on the Santa Monica pier, pour gasoline all over themselves, and light themselves on fire to stop the polluted environment that they make whales live in?

Right?

I do not think so.  Americans care less about their environment than most Russians.  And that is ironic with more than 3 times the population density, the USA does not do more to take care of our environment than do the Russians.

As usual you are full of it and don't know what you are talking about.  I hope you enjoy all of the homeless dogs and cats all over Ukraine and that you eat plenty of the highly polluted Black Sea fish.
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Re: Do Animals have any rights in Russia??
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2011, 03:11:16 PM »
Animals are probably better treated in FSU ....

False!!  It is so obvious that you have never been there nor lived there...
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Re: Do Animals have any rights in Russia??
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2011, 03:31:24 PM »
why dont they eat them, the chinese do!
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Re: Do Animals have any rights in Russia??
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2011, 04:05:06 AM »
Forget the animals,.. what about parents?! Elderly father chained up like dog in southern Russia

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Re: Do Animals have any rights in Russia??
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 03:01:35 PM »
Forget the animals,.. what about parents?! Elderly father chained up like dog in southern Russia

Well, its a lot cheaper then elderly care..
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