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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #150 on: March 15, 2012, 01:30:21 PM »
MEETING

16. You have decided that the man is right for you

If you like the man, it would be good to visit him in his country. Usually the best option - You would come as a tourist, however in some countries for example, the U.S. or Canada, the only way -is for him to visit you. My advice - do not agree to marry him until you see how he lives and where you will live. If he proposes you should answer - "I love you, but first I want to see where I will live." Do not make a decision until you see the man in his real environment. - You   
should really want to be 100% sure ... remember getting divorced abroad is difficult, and, 
time-consuming.)

You should only agree on the bride's visa only if you can imagine this man as a potential husband. There is an unwritten rule that the bride, returning back to their country and
not married to her fiance who invited her, may have difficulty in obtaining another
visa for a few years. (More about this in the " Visa ").

PLEASE NOTE THIS IS FROM THE SITE ELENA'S MODELS AND THIS CONTENT BELONGS TO THAT SITE.

Visit Elenas Models for complete information and a highly recommended site to meet the girl of your dreams.

http://www.elenasmodels.com/
FSUW are not for entry level daters. FSUW don't do vague FSUW like a man of action so be a man of action  If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane. There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.
Get an apartment not a hotel. DON'T recycle girls

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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #151 on: March 15, 2012, 01:37:28 PM »
MEETING

17. You have decided that the man does not suit you


What to do when you realize that you are bit a match to each other?

The most important thing is to be honest. Sooner or later, a man will begin to talk about the future of your relationship. Tell him that you were glad to get to know him and that he was - a wonderful man. BUT - you're not in love with him. He is attractive to you as a friend, but you do not see him as your future spouse. Tell him that you lacked, "Chemistry" - which is their English expression that represents love. (I like you but there is no chemistry. I did not fall in love with you.)

Prepare your explanation in advance. Resist the temptation to postpone the explanation to the future, when a man is at home - it is certainly easier for you, but much harder for a man: remember he had high hopes that he had found a bride !

PLEASE NOTE THIS IS FROM THE SITE ELENA'S MODELS AND THIS CONTENT BELONGS TO THAT SITE.


Visit Elenas Models for complete information and a highly recommended site to meet the girl of your dreams.

http://www.elenasmodels.com/
FSUW are not for entry level daters. FSUW don't do vague FSUW like a man of action so be a man of action  If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane. There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.
Get an apartment not a hotel. DON'T recycle girls

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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #152 on: August 26, 2012, 03:15:59 PM »
i worked a an agency for 2 years and they ran regular social and tours, we had 20-30 guys5 times a year, based in odessa, ukraine.

when the girls came we tol them in no uncertain terms to talk to all of the men, to get around the tables as much as possible and be open and good to the men.

it makes socials work and thats why all our clients are happy.

all of this "get the money of em" girls BS is based around a certain website beggining ith "Anas..."

its bad for the industry and bad for the country as most of the other agencies are great.

Lots of great guy meet lots of great girls.

any question????

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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #153 on: August 27, 2012, 12:23:36 PM »
Hello, maybe a stupid newbie question:

do they make the equivalend guide for men also?

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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #154 on: August 27, 2012, 02:22:14 PM »
Hello, maybe a stupid newbie question:

do they make the equivalend guide for men also?

Sure.  You're on it; it's just a bit more detailed and interactive. ;)


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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #155 on: January 27, 2013, 07:51:16 AM »
Hello, maybe a stupid newbie question:

do they make the equivalend guide for men also?

Mark, if you go on elena's site, you can sign up for daily emails, spread out over a nine day period, that will tell you what to do as a man to attract a Russian lady.  I actually came home from work each evening and looked forward to getting them!

Look for:  "Nine simple rules for dating Russian women."

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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #156 on: January 27, 2013, 10:38:47 AM »
Hello, maybe a stupid newbie question:

do they make the equivalent guide for men also?

Yes there is

You can follow this link http://russianwomenbook.com/
You also have this forum and there is a chatroom here http://ruadventures.com/forum/chat/index.php
I wrote a how to get started thread here http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php?topic=4390.0


You have all the tools right here at your fingertips,

Udachi !

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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #157 on: November 02, 2013, 12:28:20 PM »
So tell me, being a newbie, is it foolish to try to contact a FSU Women before spending time in research.  Am I likely to be like a fish out of water or is there possibility of success?  If I am to be successful, what are two or three things vital to keep in mind?  Thank you, Joel

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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #158 on: November 02, 2013, 12:34:48 PM »
So tell me, being a newbie, is it foolish to try to contact a FSU Women before spending time in research.  Am I likely to be like a fish out of water or is there possibility of success?  If I am to be successful, what are two or three things vital to keep in mind?  Thank you, Joel

I suggest going to the section of the forum called "The Adventure Begins" and reading two threads:

1. Top Ten Things You Would Tell a Newbie, and

2. RW Fever, 103 ...

These contain a great deal of useful advice for someone beginning this search.  Reading through at least the first ten pages of these threads would help you and would delay the beginning of your search only slightly.

I would also recommend that you buy the short book, "The Russian Bride Guide", which you can buy either by clicking on the ad on the right margin here, the one with the beautiful blond girl stepping out of a cardboard box, or on Amazon.com.  It contains more useful information than any other book on this subject.  Plus, it's fun to read.

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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #159 on: November 02, 2013, 02:31:25 PM »
So tell me, being a newbie, is it foolish to try to contact a FSU Women before spending time in research.  Am I likely to be like a fish out of water or is there possibility of success?  If I am to be successful, what are two or three things vital to keep in mind?  Thank you, Joel


A little bit of preparation will go a long way. Larry suggested some good threads
to get started. Also you should get some photos taken, put together a profile etc.

There are a hundred ways to find a good woman and a thousand ways to screw it
up.

Udachi !


Bill 


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Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.
Get an apartment not a hotel. DON'T recycle girls

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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #160 on: November 03, 2013, 07:40:21 PM »
So tell me, being a newbie, is it foolish to try to contact a FSU Women before spending time in research.  Am I likely to be like a fish out of water or is there possibility of success?  If I am to be successful, what are two or three things vital to keep in mind?  Thank you, Joel

Joel, my few ideas are:

1. do the research that Larry and 2TallBill suggest.

2. Contact some women, and your education in earnest, will begin.

3. Try to determine, when you can actually put feet on the ground.  Plan, read, learn the Cyrillic alphabet so you can at least sound out a word, etc. in the meantime.

4. Understand that this is something that requires you to have a fluid approach - you will have setbacks, strange things may happen, etc.  Be prepared but be willing to be flexible and able to absorb the shock from bumps in the road.
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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #161 on: November 04, 2013, 09:40:28 AM »
The topic that stemmed from the comment: "what is going wrong in your life that makes you think that looking for a foreign wife is the best choice for you?" has been split off.

http://ruadventures.com/forum/index.php?topic=19956.0
Read a trip report from North Korea >>here<< - Read a trip report from South Korea, China and Hong Kong >>here<<

Look what the American media makes some people believe:
Putin often threatens to strike US with nuclear weapons.

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33 questions that you need to ask of a man from Elena's Models
« Reply #162 on: February 15, 2015, 08:51:48 PM »
It's been a while since I've added anything to this thread so I went to see if the Russian
side of Elena's models still works and came across this advice for the ladies. These are
questions that Elena suggests would be good questions for the ladies to ask.
(I agree with her)


1.  What made you decide to seek a life partner abroad?
2.  How long have you been using this dating site?
3.  What impression do you have after communicating with women here?
4.  What do you know about my country?
5.  If you meet someone you really like, do you think you will want to meet them
     in real life? How soon? Where and how?
6.  Do you believe in talking to many women, and then making your choice? Or do
     you think it's best to talk to only 1-2 people at a time but give it your full attention?
7.  It's probably not my business, but how many women are you talking to?
8.  Have you ever been to my country?
9.  Do you enjoy travelling overseas?
10. How many foreign countries have you been to? Which ones did you enjoy the most?
11. What is your typical working day routine?
12. What do you usually do on weekends?
13. How do you usually spend your holidays? How many days a year your vacation?
14. Do you enjoy your job? What do you like the most about it?
15. If you could choose any career you wanted all over again, what would it be?
16. What is your special talent? Something that you love doing and people always compliment you on.
17. What do you like the most about the place where you live? What made you choose to settle down     
      there?
18. How religious are you?
19. How do you imagine your life when you are married?
20. Do you want to have children? How many?
21. Would you want your future wife to work or stay at home?
22. How many serious relationships have you had in your life? Have you ever been married or engaged?
23. What your childhood was like?)
24. Do you have any children? What kind of relationships do you have with your children?
25. What happened in your last relationship? Do you still communicate?
26. What do your friends and family think about your seeking a partner abroad?
27. What are your most treasured plans for the future?
28. Do you think you've done well in life compared to your classmates?
29. What is your view on sex in relationships and marriage?
30. What chores around the house do you enjoy doing and which ones you dislike?
31. If you could live anywhere in the world, where would it be?
32. Do you have a bucket list? What things would you want to do before you die?
33. Now that we know each other for a while, what do you think about me?
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Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.
Get an apartment not a hotel. DON'T recycle girls

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Re: 33 questions that you need to ask of a man from Elena's Models
« Reply #163 on: February 15, 2015, 08:56:01 PM »

13. How many days a year your vacation?


Google translate detected, or 13 is not a lucky number for everyone?  :D
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Re: 33 questions that you need to ask of a man from Elena's Models
« Reply #164 on: February 15, 2015, 09:09:58 PM »
It's been a while since I've added anything to this thread so I went to see if the Russian
side of Elena's models still works and came across this advice for the ladies. These are
questions that Elena suggests would be good questions for the ladies to ask.
(I agree with her)


1.  What made you decide to seek a life partner abroad?
2.  How long have you been using this dating site?
3.  What impression do you have after communicating with women here?
4.  What do you know about my country?
5.  If you meet someone you really like, do you think you will want to meet them
     in real life? How soon? Where and how?
6.  Do you believe in talking to many women, and then making your choice? Or do
     you think it's best to talk to only 1-2 people at a time but give it your full attention?
7.  It's probably not my business, but how many women are you talking to?
8.  Have you ever been to my country?
9.  Do you enjoy travelling overseas?
10. How many foreign countries have you been to? Which ones did you enjoy the most?
11. What is your typical working day routine?
12. What do you usually do on weekends?
13. How do you usually spend your holidays? How many days a year your vacation?
14. Do you enjoy your job? What do you like the most about it?
15. If you could choose any career you wanted all over again, what would it be?
16. What is your special talent? Something that you love doing and people always compliment you on.
17. What do you like the most about the place where you live? What made you choose to settle down     
      there?
18. How religious are you?
19. How do you imagine your life when you are married?
20. Do you want to have children? How many?
21. Would you want your future wife to work or stay at home?
22. How many serious relationships have you had in your life? Have you ever been married or engaged?
23. What your childhood was like?)
24. Do you have any children? What kind of relationships do you have with your children?
25. What happened in your last relationship? Do you still communicate?
26. What do your friends and family think about your seeking a partner abroad?
27. What are your most treasured plans for the future?
28. Do you think you've done well in life compared to your classmates?
29. What is your view on sex in relationships and marriage?
30. What chores around the house do you enjoy doing and which ones you dislike?
31. If you could live anywhere in the world, where would it be?
32. Do you have a bucket list? What things would you want to do before you die?
33. Now that we know each other for a while, what do you think about me?

Some other questions might be, in no particular order:

1. Do you speak my language? If not are you willing to learn it?
2. Is there opportunities for [fill in woman's skill set] in your community for me?
3. Would you consider living in my country?
4. Do you expect your wife to do all the house work?
5. Do you expect your wife to do all the child rearing? (Bill I remember you saying you haven't changed any diapers yet  :laugh:)
6. Do you like my country's food?
7. Why did you choose this site as opposed to ...?
8. Would you object to your wife visiting her home country?
9. Would you join her travelling with her to her home country?
10. If we have children could they travel to wife's country to visit?
11. How would you feel if I earned more than you?
12. Would you consider retiring to my country?
13. What do you think of my country's politics?
14. Do you prefer your wife to dress in a certain type of way?
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Re: 33 questions that you need to ask of a man from Elena's Models
« Reply #165 on: February 15, 2015, 09:35:03 PM »

13. How many days a year your vacation?


Google translate detected, or 13 is not a lucky number for everyone?  :D


Elena actually has the questions in Russian followed by good English translations.

I was using Google translate to navigate the thread. I copied both the Google translated
questions and Elena's translated questions and deleted the Google translate version

On lucky number 13, I mistakenly deleted the good translation and left the clunky 
Google version.

Here is the Russian side of Elena's models
http://www.zamuzh.com/

Then here to the blogs
http://blogs.elenasmodels.com/ru/

and finally here
33 вопроса для знакомства с иностранцами
http://blogs.elenasmodels.com/ru/33-voprosa-dlya-znakomstva-s-inostrantsami/

Elena's correct translation was as follows
How do you usually spend your vacations? How many days off do you have every year?
FSUW are not for entry level daters. FSUW don't do vague FSUW like a man of action so be a man of action  If you find a promising girl, get your butt on a plane. There are a hundred ways to be successful and a thousand ways to f#ck it up
Kiss the girl, don't ask her first.
Get an apartment not a hotel. DON'T recycle girls

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Re: 33 questions that you need to ask of a man from Elena's Models
« Reply #166 on: February 15, 2015, 10:10:15 PM »
It's been a while since I've added anything to this thread so I went to see if the Russian
side of Elena's models still works and came across this advice for the ladies. These are
questions that Elena suggests would be good questions for the ladies to ask.
(I agree with her)


1.  What made you decide to seek a life partner abroad?
2.  How long have you been using this dating site?
3.  What impression do you have after communicating with women here?
4.  What do you know about my country?
5.  If you meet someone you really like, do you think you will want to meet them
     in real life? How soon? Where and how?
6.  Do you believe in talking to many women, and then making your choice? Or do
     you think it's best to talk to only 1-2 people at a time but give it your full attention?
7.  It's probably not my business, but how many women are you talking to?
8.  Have you ever been to my country?
9.  Do you enjoy travelling overseas?
10. How many foreign countries have you been to? Which ones did you enjoy the most?
11. What is your typical working day routine?
12. What do you usually do on weekends?
13. How do you usually spend your holidays? How many days a year your vacation?
14. Do you enjoy your job? What do you like the most about it?
15. If you could choose any career you wanted all over again, what would it be?
16. What is your special talent? Something that you love doing and people always compliment you on.
17. What do you like the most about the place where you live? What made you choose to settle down     
      there?
18. How religious are you?
19. How do you imagine your life when you are married?
20. Do you want to have children? How many?
21. Would you want your future wife to work or stay at home?
22. How many serious relationships have you had in your life? Have you ever been married or engaged?
23. What your childhood was like?)
24. Do you have any children? What kind of relationships do you have with your children?
25. What happened in your last relationship? Do you still communicate?
26. What do your friends and family think about your seeking a partner abroad?
27. What are your most treasured plans for the future?
28. Do you think you've done well in life compared to your classmates?
29. What is your view on sex in relationships and marriage?
30. What chores around the house do you enjoy doing and which ones you dislike?
31. If you could live anywhere in the world, where would it be?
32. Do you have a bucket list? What things would you want to do before you die?
33. Now that we know each other for a while, what do you think about me?

bill good questions ,

id think the asking of them would apply to both parties in the usual exchange of information between them
most blokes would be interested in a ladys responses

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« Reply #167 on: November 22, 2019, 02:14:18 PM »

bill good questions ,

id think the asking of them would apply to both parties in the usual exchange of information between them
most blokes would be interested in a ladys responses

SX

I've posted millions of questions to ask, but my advice is to
make a list of subjects and organize it into an outline that
you need to go over first before you marry a woman.

If you spend a few hours at this, you will be surprised at how
fast your outline grows and how many subjects that you need
to talk about before you ______________ get on a plane, before
you get engaged, before you get married.

99% of Good girls will want to have these conversations. These 
are true insights about how

Examples

I. Expectations and roles in a family
   A. What tasks are expected of the husband
     1.
     2.
     3.
   B. What tasks are expected of the wife
   C. What tasks are expected of the children
   D. What tasks Exwife, Mother in law, creepy uncle etc.

II. Conflict Resolution
   A. What is off limits for you in an argument
     1. Gun fights,
     2. Calling my mother a  _____________
     3. Etc.
   B. What is off limits for me in an argument
   C. What to do when we disagree
   D. Something else.   

III. Sex stuff
   A. Frequency
   B. What's freaky good
   C. What's freaky bad
   D. Something else
   E. What happens in the unlikely event that Angelina Jolie wants
   to have sex with me (one time only).
   F.

IV. Kids
  A. Do we want to make any of our own
  B. What if we make one by accident
  C. Who disciplines your child/my child 
  D. What happens if child acts out
  E. One million other things here.

V.  Exwife/ExHusband

VI. Inlaws/Outlaws

VII.  Education, learning English, Driving a car

VIII. Pet Peeves

IX.  Jobs and work.

X.   Goals

XI.  Retirement

XII. This list can go on and on and on and it should
this is your due diligence phase.

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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #168 on: December 01, 2019, 03:42:38 AM »
It all sounds crazy to me. I met my wife in Slovakia by mere chance. We were both waiting for the same električka. Her very poor German was the only language in which to communicate. She had a ten-year-old daughter and didn't fall into the category of “perfect”. We have been married 15 years now, have a child together, and I think of it as a successful marriage and such a wonderful life together.

So when I think about how I had no intention of meeting someone (and yet how it turned out)  if you want to meet a future wife in any of the “eastern” European countries ….. just go there and have a sniff around. It just has to be easier than meeting someone on line who will probably just tell you anything you want to hear.  :)
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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #169 on: December 01, 2019, 06:13:17 AM »
Valenki, you're on the money except: many guys who think there are no suitable life partners in their own country are not well enough socialised that they can meet people face to face. For those who feel that none of their countrywomen meet their high standards, they are so time poor that taking the time to do as you suggest is not possible. Remember that most USAians get only 2 weeks vacation and that a large proportion of them are unable to even take all of that small allotment of personal time.

The constraints upon these poor guys is what led to the online international mail order bride thing in the USA.
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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #170 on: December 01, 2019, 07:13:22 AM »
    There are narrow minded people who think the world is closed off in sections.
As most open minded people have realized the world in many ways is becoming smaller.
the ability to travel, communicate and see many parts of the world is much easier now.

   I am sure like some men, many women see the advantages of opening up the distance
in which they can search for a partner. As this site proves some have the ability some do not.
I am sure some should never start their search, maybe some should have more of an open mind.

   Different cultures also create different types of people, regardless of where you are in the world
Finding a person that shares goals, futures and outcomes and life styles is always going to be a few of the
key goals. The ability to search further allows the odds to be in both partners favour.


   Like anything in this world, if there is a desire, someone will figure out how to make money from it.
As in any business some are trying to be honest in their dealings with people, some just trying to make
money anyway they can. I suspect you can find this in almost any market in most countries.

   As here like most places, you will find all kinds of people, some good, some not so much, some ignorant,
some smarter than others, many different careers and like most things some are just assholes.
As the expression goes, takes all kinds.

   The part I never understood is why some feel the need to shit on everything they see?
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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #171 on: December 01, 2019, 09:00:14 AM »
Valenki, you're on the money except: many guys who think there are no suitable life partners in their own country are not well enough socialised that they can meet people face to face. For those who feel that none of their countrywomen meet their high standards, they are so time poor that taking the time to do as you suggest is not possible. Remember that most USAians get only 2 weeks vacation and that a large proportion of them are unable to even take all of that small allotment of personal time.


I see what you mean and I must admit I hadn't considered all of that in preparing my response. I don't really think of this forum as speaking to USAians specifically, but if I had I would not have worded it so matter-of-factly.  Your point on being sufficiently “socialised that they can meet people face to face” is a poignant one and that would certainly inhibit one's capacity to attract interest particularly as Slavic women prefer men who are confident without being intimidating ….. sympathetic yet dignified.

The constraints upon these poor guys is what led to the online international mail order bride thing in the USA.


I understand it better now, thanks. Do you find that applies to Brits as well?
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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #172 on: December 01, 2019, 01:22:15 PM »

   The part I never understood is why some feel the need to shit on everything they see?
This!

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And already 1 of them broke because some idiot applied way too much force.
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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #173 on: December 01, 2019, 01:33:07 PM »
I think the points I was making do apply to many British guys, except, of course, we have much more time off than our colonial cousins.

One thing that interests me a tad is this manliness thing. Something came up recently that put a new context on it for me.
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Re: Did you ever wonder what the agencies tell the girls?
« Reply #174 on: December 01, 2019, 06:44:32 PM »
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One thing that interests me a tad is this manliness thing. Something came up recently that put a new context on it for me.
And that something is ...?
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